Did fake voting play a part in the 2020 election?

I say yes but probably not to a decisive degree, there's not evidence of widespread electoral fraud but plenty of minor local abuse, the system really needs to be reformed with more safeguards.

 

Dept of Homeland Security says this is one of the best elections we've ever had.

But I do agree, voting needs a lot of reform.

 

Since you asked the question I think you have the responsibility of telling us what fake voting is. How is it accomplished? Do you have to steal ballots or do you counterfeit them? Do you vote by phone?

 

Two ways of cheating. Ballots for Trump were just basically thrown out. Which will never be proven because they simply don't exist anymore.

Or, votes for Biden were overcounted. Which can be proven because these can't be tossed or they would come up way short of the number of votes they counted on election night. Between a rock and a hard place. We'll see.

 

Actually anyone who voted for Trump by mail or absentee should check to be sure their vote went through.

 

Prior to some of the recent revelations about the Dominion Voting Systems, I hadn't thought there was any real reason to suspect voting fraud or manipulation of the vote count. Now, I truly do believe that there is reason to at least want to have a thorough investigation into Dominion -- PAST and PRESENT -- and the votes recorded on those systems. "There's too many clues in this room"....

 

LOL. Yeah, especially since to qualify as a poll worker you had to prove you were a Democrat.

 

Really? I wouldn't doubt it. Just remember you said it, not me or the president.

 

Sorry that sarcasm goes over your head. Not a surprise.

 

Donald Trump lost this election. Joe Biden won this election.
The only voting reform we need is to completely get rid of voter suppression and gerrymandering.

 

Yeah , maybe next time we should have ballots available at convenience stores, or better yet, drop them into neighborhoods from airplanes. We don't need signature verification. Anyone should be allowed to vote as many times as they want to, We don't want no voter suppression. Responsibility is a fascist idea. Do away with voter registration....might as well. I.D. is only for those that want to attend a Democrat Convention!
Of, by the way,your avatar just proves a makeover can do anything. We're going to give the media a makeover.

 

The way to do that is with a strong national and independent voting authority like the Brit Boundaries Commission. You would want to place some existing law, like the VRA, under it's authority.

 

Secure elections are important, but it is also important that everyone have the opportunity to vote. Contrary to political rhetoric, these two objectives are not mutually exclusive.

 

I think you made an error in starting the thread with different wording in the poll question. The title asks "did fake voting play a part....". So I voted option 3 for that question. To a degree, but it had negligible effect. I think there's fake voting (dead people voting, people trying to vote twice, or in different states etc) that likely happens every election. People think it's bad today, it's probably a hell of a lot better regulated today than it would have been....100+ years ago. But yes some happens, but too negligible an amount to make a difference.

If PA alone would determine the difference between Biden or Trump for president - and if the win ended up being by ~1000 or so votes total - i'd be a lot more inclined to vote option 2, and maybe even option 1. But none of the counts are really close enough.

Reason why I say you "made an error" in starting this thread. Your poll question is different than title question. In the poll question you specifically ask "did electoral fraud play a role".

To me - electoral fraud implies an organized effort. So not just individual voters - but rather actual democratic leaders conspiring to hide votes, or hack machines, or all kinds of other things. If that's the actual question - my answer is the last one. No not at all it is a hoax. There was no organized fraud. How in the world would the democrats have known to target Nevada and PA of all places? They don't have a crystal ball. Nobody expected Nevada to be a state that decides things, they'd have targeted Ohio or Florida if it was from the top. So all of that talk of "organized fraud" from the top is completely baseless claims.

 

~ The votes were mostly real - bought and paid for.

 

Everyone SHOULD have the opportunity and honor the responsibility to present voter I,D, at the nearest precinct and present their ballot.

 

Voting by mail is legal, and does not entail either an opportunity nor a responsibility to present an id. Signature verification is done. Respect the law. If you don't like the law, seek to change it. But in this case, some evidence is needed to show that mail-in ballots is materially less secure than voting in person.

 

Democrats just like to muddy the water so their deeds are hidden.

 

Do you have evidence of fraud and no human error?
The system is proving to be quite reliable. Ga, who is disappointed tRUMP lost could find no fraud and the vote changed by less than a fraction of a percent.

What happened in Georgia?
On Thursday, Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger - who oversees the election process - said the hand audit of ballots had not altered Mr Biden's victory in the state.

"Georgia's historic first statewide audit reaffirmed that the state's new secure paper ballot voting system accurately counted and reported results," Mr Raffensberger, a Republican, said in a statement.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55006188

 

The dems being so good at hiding their deeds really points to the republicans being so incompetent. Or do you really believe the dems are that much smarter than repubs?

 

Why do you suppose only dems would try to fraud a vote?
Many fraud votes prosecuted in past are not dems.

The big stink in Ca over 2 guys registering thousands of voters, we a mayor race, and I think he was R?

 

And the only result was not for Electors for the Electoral College, there were thousands of state and local elections with huge ramifications for local voters and issues.

We need a huge investigation into this mess of an election and expose the warts and figure out what can be done to ensure the integrity of our elections with this misguide rush to all mail in voting, third party registration, ballot harvesting, judges and local officials disregarding the rules of the election as set forth by the state legislature, and all the other warts.

 

Once a mail in ballot is received and it is separated from it's envelope and that envelope discarded and in some cases no attempt at all to match the signatures, some not even requiring how do you prove fraud or the results are fraudulent. A simple recount only shows any tabulation errors. It takes an audit of the ballots but that goes down the drain with how the elections are managed.

 

So, you are in the make stuff up as it goes category.
Or the republicans in place during opening of ballots are incompetent. Or the dems are much much smarter than republicans.
Either way, Republicans come off as fools in the process.

 

So you are in baseless denials mode. What did I make up and be specific. Try an actually intellectual response this time.