Did Hillary Clinton just catapult Tulsi Gabbard into the leadership of the Dems??????

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Tulsi Gabbard vs Hillary Clinton for leadership of the Dems?

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or..... it would also be great to have a situation where Dem candidate Tulsi Gabbard spent
    almost as much time talking about the relevance of some aspects of the Andrew Yang
    campaign than she spends talking about her own ideas?!

    CIA economist Jim Rickards in 2014 stated that there were seven hundred and ten
    trillion dollars in the worldwide Derivatives markets. There were over TWO HUNDRED TRILLION
    USA petro-dollars in the USA Derivatives market at that same time.

    FORGET IRAN, IRAQ, UKRAINE
    THIS IS WHERE WWIII STARTS...


    Mr. Jim Rickards has warned us of the possibility of a one hundred trillion dollar meltdown in
    the Derivatives markets and he seems to imply that the pessimism caused by that possible event could
    spread like a virus to other markets.

    Technically that is a possible Bear Market like 1929.... so what would the remedy be...... OPTIMISM!

    So how is the Andrew Yang campaign platform relevant?

    There are three hundred and thirty million Americans who feel that government officials
    are significantly just out for themselves and view the voters as pawns to be played with in
    a massive global game of chess.

    Some truths about central banking policy problems in both Canada and the USA going all the way back to
    1750 if explained clearly and plainly to all of America would tend to make USA voters much more optimistic.

    The majority of USA voters need to understand what happened in Canada since 1974 and how it set things
    up for something similar to happen in the USA before they will be able to understand how to break Americans out
    of the mentality for a Bear Market:

    Can we learn about the Washington Swamp from the Ottawa Swamp?

    After P. M. Pierre E. Trudeau's colossal error in 1974 here is how the national debt of
    Canada spiralled out of control:

    [​IMG]

    My guess is that he was pressured into doing this so that the same thing could be
    arranged in the USA:

    [​IMG]

    Once Federal Reserve policy can be understood in comparison to Canadian Bank of Canada
    policy from 1938 - 1974 the the USA is all set up to understand how easy it would be to
    finance part of the Andrew Yang proposal at essentially ZERO cost to USA taxpayers.......
    and you can begin to pay off your national debt and create a cash cow for all levels of
    both federal and State government.


    ANDREW YANG FOR PRESIDENT 2020

    What you may be really surprised by is how willing President Trump may be to coopt
    part of the Andrew Yang platform due to what happened to him back in 1991?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
    Tulsi Gabbard talking a lot about how the Andrew Yang platform could work could turn USA and world politics on their head and be instrumental in preventing another 1929.

    Proverbs 27:2 "Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips."
     
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    The problem with Gabbard is that she's at least as anti-establishment as Trump is. The establishment gains nothing by replacing Trump with her, and in fact loses its only play its got left- media demonization campaigns. The left voters would not tolerate the establishment run media treating Gabbard as they treat Trump. She's potentially a bigger threat to them than he is. I think they'll put just as much into trying to keep Gabbard out of office as they'll put into trying get Trump out of office.
     
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    So.... what can happen is anti-establishment members of the grassroots Democratic Party
    get behind anti-establishment Tulsi Gabbard and take their party back from the establishment???????

    This could become a populist movement that is part of the Democratic Party and could be
    tailored for a different audience than the people who were able to catapult Mr. Donald Trump into the
    office of President.

    The proverbial albatross around the neck of Ms. Gabbard is that the USA Democratic party is seemingly even more
    pro-establishment than the G.O.P. supporter base?

    Oh.... a little background regarding what happened in 1750 could be useful in the debates that you get into from now until
    the 2020 election?

    Do we Canadians owe America an apology for 1750 - 1783?
     
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    If she were to run as a third party candidate, the only people she could get to vote for her instead of the options presented by either the Republicans or the Democrats would be members of Trump's base. Albeit, probably not many.

    The Democrats are all yellow dogs. They will vote for whomever the Democrat nominee is, regardless of anything else.
     
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    And the repubs are the same, look at the support Trump gathers here.
     
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    I cherish your 1st-amendment right to freely express yourself.

    I shall now express mine:

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    Negative Ghostrider, not the same, not the same at all.

    Republicans love them man, Democrats love the party.
     
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    Excellent observation. The divide in this country seems to be increasingly between 'We the Individuals' vs 'We the Collective.'
     
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    You might actually be surprised how glad I am to get this reaction out of you
    Statistikhengst!

    But Tulsi Gabbard can prevent a powerful case the the level of corruption on the extreme left is even deeper than we might imagine.


    Exclusive–Guatemala Intel Secretary Fact-Checks Beto O’Rourke: Migrant Crisis Caused by Poverty from Democrats Pushing ‘Socialist Corrupt Ideology’ on Central America
     
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    Nice to hear from you, hope you are well!

    hey, did you just post a Breitbart link??

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    Hmmmm, interesting.

    Or, it could be between the absolutely batshit-crazy conspiracy consumers vs. those who believe in the rule of law.

    Deeeeeeeeeep staaaaaaaaate!!!
     
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    Theoretically speaking, a third party Tulsi could draw in a lot of moderate Democratic votes. I'm thinking Tim Pool as a prime example, who finds the leftist lurch of the Democratic party way too distasteful but isn't willing to jump ship to Trump. But I doubt she could win with just the moderate Dems and maybe half of the independents. Trump might only get 45% of the vote, but the Democratic nominee would get 35%, leaving just 20% for Tulsi. Trump would still sweep the electoral vote that way, too.
     
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    Tulsi got some much needed air time so it will be interesting to see if it does her enough good to put her back into the competition. I doubt it.
     
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    I doubt it, too. The Democratic base is so infuriated by Trump that only a hard-core socialist is going to be able to win the nomination, and a hard-core socialist won't stand a chance of winning the general election. Even if the House passes a bill of impeachment against Trump, only to be rejected in the Senate, if the Democratic nominee is any of the front-runners right now, s/he will still lose. The sanest of the bunch right now is Elizabeth Warren, and all Trump has to do is keep referring to her as Fauxcahontas and she's toast.

    Trump 2020 Campaign To Simply Air Unedited Footage Of Democrats Talking

    WASHINGTON, D.C.—The Trump campaign has unveiled its 2020 campaign strategy of airing unedited footage of speeches and press conferences by far-left Democrats like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, and that other one.

    GOP commercials will air the footage around the clock. The speeches will not be edited in any way. Rather than pushing their own policy proposals, Republicans will just remind the nation of just who it is they're running against.

    "We were pretty concerned when Trump was tweeting those racially charged things the other day," said one campaign strategist. "But now we're in the clear again. I mean, he'll say something problematic again soon. But we don't even have to defend it. We just have to show people the Dems tripping over themselves to say something even crazier."

    https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-u...rategy-of-just-letting-democrats-speak-freely

    *The Babylon Bee is a Christian variety of The Onion. It is purely parody and not actual news.
     
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    I don't think Democrats are quite ready to go socialist but they put all their eggs in the Biden basket and that isn't working out for them. They need an established conservative Democrat and don't really have one. I really look for Hillary to jump in. Tulsi is interesting but I think she is a little strange even by today's Dem standards.
     
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    Moderate Democrats are just that, theoretical. They are all Yellow Dog Democrats, every single one. They will vote for whomever the DNC chooses to present.

    Attendance at Trump rallies average around 40,000 people, per rally. I find that very comforting.

    God Bless Trump.
     
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    Not quite every one. 12% of Sanders supporters in the primaries voted for Trump in the general election rather than vote for Hillary, and in a few of the swing states, that was more than the margin of victory for Trump. It was even more pronounced in 2008, when 25% of Hillary supporters voted for McCain in the general election rather than vote for Obama. Oddly, that was not enough to put McCain over the top.

    https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-trump-2016-election-654320
     
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    That might be what they need, but it doesn't seem to be what they want. Here's one woman bitching about moderate Democratic governors worried about what middle of the road white people might want, and how the Democratic party ought to ignore the political middle entirely...

    https://splinternews.com/moderate-democratic-governors-are-worried-about-all-the-1836528201

    The Democrats have plenty of moderates, but don't seem interested in any of them. I remember moderate Democratic governor of Pennsylvania Bob Casey. I thought he had a good shot of winning the presidency, but he couldn't get any traction in the Democratic party because of his pro-life position. At one point, they wouldn't even let him speak at a Democratic convention because they didn't want to give the pro-life position any air time.
     
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    Would you say its a 'conspiracy' that a lot of people would like to see our Laws subject to the whims of mob?

    ...because thats not really 'Law' in any meaningful sense of the word, given how frequently and easily the mob is led around by their emotions.
     
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    wow!!!!

    Some of us were wondering about this back in 2016?

    Is the Rabbi correct that one third of Bernie supporters will NOT vote for Hillary?
    (May 15, 2016)
     
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    The best answer I can give you is 13% of Bernie supporters stayed home or voted 3rd party. It's the most difficult number to tally because those who stayed home didn't answer voter surveys. I'm getting the 13% from a survey that said 25% of Bernie supporters said they wouldn't vote for Hillary minus the 12% we know voted for Trump, leaving 13% to either stay home or vote for Jill Stein or some other candidate.
     
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    When the Republican concern trolls come out in force, you know the Republicans are scared. That means the Democrats need to do more of what they're doing.

    It's also funny how none of them knows what "socialism" means. All of them seem to think it means "any policy that TheParty told me not to like."

    Tulsi? She'd peel many more votes from Republicans, if she was to run third-party. The misogynist BernieBros certainly won't run to her. That's why her backing from Russian bots will be drying up. They just wanted to amplify the butthurt in those prone to butthurt. And Clinton kind of squashed that plan by pointing it out.
     
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    She is more likely to go into the news media than attempt to initiate a third party......

    In my opinion she could well be seen as the only real alternative to Hillary being brought back into this......


    Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard won't seek reelection to Congress in 2020 as she pursues Democratic presidential nomination

     
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    Yeah, she might be angling for a paid gig at Fox News. She's appeared there often enough. Fox adores their token Democrats who will talk about how awful the Democrats are.
     
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    One thing I learned on the beaches of Southern California and on the mean beaches of Hawaii....don't **** with Samoans. They are usually big if they been eating a lot of Spam and love to fight.

    Tulsi Gabbard is 1/2 Samoan.


    How to get out of a fight with Samoans


    Follow these steps if you want to live and make sure to follow the last step or you definitely get fast!
     
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