Did Rabbi Jesus/Yeshua learn about healing in India before teaching in Judaea?

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  1. DennisTate

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    Near death experiencer Bruce F. MacDonald was shown that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus practiced a type of meditation that was done by the Prophets at Mt. Carmel.

    http://www.thomastwin.com/7 A Thomas samples.html


     
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    It's all speculation. There's nothing that says that Jesus practised meditation.

    I have many dreams and visions in the night. I'm thinking of writing a book about them. After all, Mohammed did, and look how famous/infamous he became.;-)
     
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    Near death experiencer Bruce F. MacDonald Ph. D. was sufficiently
    convinced of the reality of what he saw while in the out of the body
    state to give up on the career that he was already almost qualified for.

    http://www.thomastwin.com/6 A Thomas background.html

     
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    That sort of experience occurs in all walks of life. I know a man who gave up a very rewarding and influential career to become a preacher in Wales, many years ago - because he felt 'called'. So did Paul on a dusty road, in the heat of the day. . So did Mohammed, alone for days in a cave. IMO NDE's are chemical reactions in the brain, working on memories from the past.
     
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    The young Israeli Natan went against his mom and dad to do this video.

    He believes what he saw during his NDE was real or why would he do that?


     
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    Great... I just opene it up and am beginning to listen now......
    ... I also just got back an interesting reply here......
     
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    /www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318464.php Out of body experiences are medically 'induced',in various ways. There is nothing 'spritual' about them.
    There is no evidence of Thomas being Jesus twin brother apart from a passage in the book of Thomas the Contender 'Now, since it has been said that you are my twin and true companion, examine yourself, and learn who you are, in what way you exist, and how you will come to be. Since you will be called my brother, it is not fitting that you be ignorant of yourself.'
    Several of the early non-canonical books claim that Jesus said things only to them because they were special. It's nonsense. Would the people not have known about it

    Jesus was simply a Jewish preacher. He did no miracles or walk on water or change water into wine. He lived as a Jew, spoke as a Jew, taught Jewish truths, used Jewish parables and the Tanakh. Like a true, modern day evangelist, he saw the people's lack of belief and sought to bring them back to Jahweh.

    The Egyptians had no real answer to psychiatric problems except mainly magical cures. In some cases the placebo effect worked. Mainly no cure.

    The Essene book of Revelation was a combination of OT scriptures to which they added their own 'interpretation'. The New Testament Revelation came from the OT scriptures to which the writer added events to include Jesus. They vary considerably
     
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    Depending on how the word "spiritual" is defined... you might be correct......... We humans tend to put lots of Woooooo in to the word spiritual but three thousand years from now..... you and I may have came to realize that the energy from sixth to ninth dimensional space - time......... and its manifestations....... are in actually entirely logical and technological..........
     
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    Would He have taken a boat? What is the route from Israel to India?

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    The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ by Levi Dowling had him walking and riding a camel most of the way....
     
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    Moshiach.com has articles about Jews going to South America as early as the time of King Solomon.

    Those Phonecian sailors were very good at what they did.......

     
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    Most Phoenician boats were coast huggers.
     
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    Most con men speak with amazing authority.
     
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    This sort of thread is just a backhanded attack on Christianity.

    Jesus Christ was God on earth - fully man, and fully God.

    He didn't learn anything in some heathen land.
     
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    Yeah...even the Bible talks about this in...something called.....Revlon...Revelry...uh....Revelations...yeah that's it.
     
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    So he would have traveled thru Afghanistan and Iran... or taken a short boat trip from Dilmun to Balouchistan?
     
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    And your proof that Jesus Christ was fully man and fully God is what exactly? The fact is other than using circular logic and the Bible you have no proof, ergo the constant Christian demands for "faith" - a word used to describe the suspension of critical thinking.
     
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    Jesus was simply a Jewish Preacher who was put to death because he exposed the hypocrisy of the Jewish religious leadership, and undermined their authority. If you study the Tanakh prophecies against the NT there is nothing to suggest otherwise. All the Nativity prophecies in 'Matthews' gospel have nothing to do with Jesus. They are simply taken out of original context to purport to reveal Jesus as divine. He was born a Jew, lived as a Jew, preached as a Jew, practised as a Jew.
     
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    You're right BUT

    I don't think Jesus was a conman. I believe he was a genuine Jewish preacher who had studied hard. From the age of 5 he had been taught the Torah (Pentateuch). From the age of 9 he had studied the rest of the Tanakh. This was normal for Jewish boys. It appears he was an exceptional student. Such students were usually taken under the wing of a Rabbi and given further studies. They were taught to form their own views of the Tanakh and express them. Debate with other Rabbis. An early form of University education. The fact that Jesus often referred to OT prophets etc. is simply because he believed what he had been taught from birth. As many children of Christian parents are today. 'God'son'? All Jews considered themselves sons of God, after all, they were children of Israel. When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called my son. Hosea 11.1 Hosea is referring to the supposed exodus under the supposed Moses.
    Much of what Jesus said was true to his Jewish beliefs and to Judaism and has often been misinterpreted and misquoted by Gospel writers in the effort to make him divine.
     
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    Roman shipping was sailing to the Malabar coast to trade at the time.
     
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    Did Rabbi Jesus/Yeshua learn about healing in India before teaching in Judaea?

    I heard he attended medical school in Pittsburgh.
     
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    From the Med to India?

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    From ports on the upper Red Sea. iirc goods went from the Med to the Red by land.
     
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    The Arabs had a huge trade network from Yemen to Mesopotamia and Egypt and the Levant to Dilmun, East Africa and the Indus valley.

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    From what I read the last dynasty of Egypt established the trade routes that the Romans simply took over when they took Egypt.
     

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