Did Robert Mueller Defy A Court Order To Stop Lying About Russian Companies?

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Seems Mueller nor our intelligence agencies have proof the two companies accused of being Russian government fronts and that is how the Russians, the government, engaged in the alleged interference. In the US Courts have said stop making the unsupported allegation. Now comes Mueller who blatantly violated that court order to stop referring to them as Russian government fronts.

    "The indictment of Russian individuals and companies appeared, at first, to be a mere publicity stunt, as nobody believed the Russians would voluntarily appear in court to challenge the charges. But then one of them did. Concord hired an attorney to fight the indictment.

    Both Mueller’s report and Attorney General William Barr’s April press conference releasing the report included statements strongly suggesting that Concord and IRA worked at the direction of the Russian government. Nobody bothered to notice that the original indictment did not charge Concord with being a tool of the Russian government until Concord filed a motion for a contempt citation against the government for making that allegation.

    On July 1, 2019, Judge Dabney L. Friedrich issued an order (to which the government agreed) prohibiting further public statements by the government about the Concord and IRA case, particularly statements alleging that Concord and IRA worked on behalf of the Russian government. A more detailed discussion of this train wreck can be read here."

    The judge had already found Mueller had violated the order a couple of months ago and then he did it again in his testimony.

    "But nobody apparently reminded Mueller that Judge Friedrich had ordered Mueller’s team to stop saying Concord and IRA worked for the Russian government.

    The government hasn’t alleged that, can’t prove it, and abandoned those allegations in open court. The government had only just barely escaped a criminal contempt citation because Mueller’s report and Barr’s press conference seemed to allege that the Russians (the Russians, as in the Russian government) were behind the troll farms. And that’s not true, according to the government’s own admissions."

    So will Judge Freidrich hold him in contempt? Will Concord and IRA file a compliant. Will the MSM report the facts the the Russians were behind it is still unsupported speculation?

    More here....https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/31/robert-mueller-defy-court-order-stop-lying-russian-companies/
     
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  2. PrincipleInvestment

    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    Yes he did. I've pointed that out numerous times. Judge Dabney Friedrich issued a gag order. Team Mueller was prohibited from uttering "sweeping systematic" Russian conspiracy theories that they had zero evidence to support. Lyin' & leakin' just runs in the FBI family's blood. ::(:
     
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    No, Mueller did not violate any Judge's order. If anyone thinks so, he can give specific evidence.
     
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    No ... it's more inconvenient evidence that the culture of partisan lawlessness that IG Horowitz opined about, can be traced back directly to bogus Bob Mueller's directorship. It also demonstates how negligently disconnected bogus Bob is from the witch hunts that team Weissmann has undertaken.
     
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    Pay attention ... "sweeping systematic" is in parenthesis for a reason.
     
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    "sweeping systematic" in this case means that your case has no evidence.
     
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    Sorry ... judge Friedrich ruling is crystal clear. Mueller is legally barred from suggesting Russia or the Kremlin or Russian spies, engaged in a "sweeping systematic" campaign of interferance. The court reviewed the unredactd Crowdstrike analysis, and determined it was pure garbage. Naturally the courts duty is to uphold justice no matter who the defendant is, or what the charges are. Friedrich will not allow Mueller to make false allegations in court or in public. The Crowdstrike analysis isn't any more reliable than the Steele dossier.
     
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    It means that Mueller has no evidence professor. None he can present in Friedrich court, and none he can disingenuously represent in public.
     
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    Can you please provide a link to this "crystal clear" ruling? Not an article or a blog, but a direct link to the judgment hosted on a court or government website.
    And the page number that bars Mueller from saying anything.
     
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    Sure I could, or you could do that work yourself. If you need another source of confirmation, besides the one the OP provided, go find it. I've read numerous articles with doc links embedded. After you've found one that contradicts what I've posted, we can have a conversation.
     
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    You made the claim and you failed.
     
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    The failure seems to be in your comprehension.
     
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    You said absent either evidence of failure or incorrectness... One hope you at least get paid to so publicly expose your own failures.
     
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    The OP makes the claim. It is supported by the link the OP provided. If you'd like to refute the claim, do so with a citation. I'd instruct you further, but then my reply would be deleted. You know it used to irk me when that happened, but I've realized that a deletion pretty well confirms that I've made another liberal cry. ::):
     
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    He just violated the law and the judge could have done more than just a reprimand.
     
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    Cited in the OP and elaborated on in the link.
     
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    The judge ruled the assertions Concord and IRA were Russian government fronts are assertions with no evidence and issued a cease and desist on the government claiming as such.
     
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    You said:
    I've read the July 1 judgment. It does not bar Mueller from suggesting Russia or the Kremlin or Russian spies engaged in a "sweeping systematic" campaign of interference.

    The judgment doesn't contain the words "sweeping" or "systematic" at all.

    So ... fail on your part.
     
  19. PrincipleInvestment

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    The judge still may ... Mueller went into his "sweeping systematic" spiel during the congressional hearing. 1 st it's contempt for violating the gag. 2nd the gag was issued to insulate the jury. I'd imagine the defense will move to have the case against Concord dismissed.
     
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    Post some excerpts. Tell me what team Mueller was directed not to do.
     
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    You're the one who claimed "judge Friedrich ruling is crystal clear. Mueller is legally barred from suggesting Russia or the Kremlin or Russian spies, engaged in a "sweeping systematic" campaign of interferance."

    I've read the judgment. It doesn't say that. Post the excerpts that say what you claim.

    Have you even read the judgment, or are you just being lazy and parroting RWNJ blogs?
     
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    Obviously, it is "Flamebait", and the article in the OP presents a completely discredited RW Fever Swamp Fake Narrative.

    ^But, that statement could describe over 90% of the RW "content" at PF.

    As far as Mueller (and the stuff in the OP)?

    They can get back to me when any of this Ludicrous BS is actually PROVEN.

    Until then? :bored:
     
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  23. Bluesguy

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    Feel free to refute it then.

    First the Judge enjoins the government from making false claims about the Russian government involvement, then a judge dismisses the DNC lawsuit claiming Trump involved in Russian collusion as without merit or evidence. And of course the Mueller fiasco last week which was supposed to FINALLY nail Trump but was a total failure.

    When will you give it up?
     
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    Here's the courts july 1st ruling. Note the court finds that Mueller has violated the courts gag order CR. 57.7 The court declined to hold Mueller and the DOJ in contempt. Mueller broke the criminal statute and DOJ regulations. Mueller violated the criminal statute and DOJ regulations again when he testified before congress. Mueller has not been exonerated! :roflol: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6186822/Sealed-Order.txt
     
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    Posted it in it's entirety. #26.
     
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