Did Robert Mueller Defy A Court Order To Stop Lying About Russian Companies?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    You can't handle the truth.

    When I accurately cite the joint assessment of the FBI, NSA, and CIA, confirmed by the Republican-controlled Senate Select on Intelligence, and re-confirmed by the Trump Justice Department's Republican Special Counsel that Russia that "We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump's election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him," (https://www.burr.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/SSCI ICA ASSESSMENT_FINALJULY3.pdf) you spout your nonsense and, when I request that you document that nonsense, you become flustered because, obviously, you can't.

    Fake Don shrieking "Witch Hunt!" dozens and dozens of times and hyper-partisan media entertainers flailing their pom poms is clearly all you need.

    Others are more amenable to facts.
     
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    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    It’s an investigative report. It would have been redacted if it was in violation. Mueller did not redact or redact.


    SMFH
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I tend to agree with your statement. I watched only a few parts of the hearing last week, but never once heard Concord mentioned. None of the talking heads mentioned Concord either.
     
  4. BuckyBadger

    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    lol - Fake Don shrieking?? lololol, how over the top you always are. lol

    I guess you aren't aware of very much..... This is where you start shrieking how fake it all is:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ussian_sources_to_develop_steele_dossier.html

    https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/4...ll-dnc-lawyers-met-with-fbi-on-dossier-before

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/new...YO5C5U6Y1RR_3jMMPdrBL2QkDa9Dwz-hoCeZ0QAvD_BwE

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...paign-laws-over-fusion-gps-and-steele-funding

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/legaln...still-pending-at-now-closed-fec/#1a26e7c73d99

    https://thefederalist.com/2019/03/28/campaign-colluded-russians-2016-hillary-clintons/

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-...-payments-trump-dossier-author-steele-n897506

    https://www.investors.com/politics/...evelations-take-down-hillary-clinton-and-dnc/

    https://www.realclearinvestigations.../who_were_the_mueller_reports_hired_guns.html

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/russia-collusion-real-story-hillary-clinton-dnc-fbi-media/

    Enter, William Barr. :)

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  5. squidward

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    We assess
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    I see a ton of facts there
     
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    Please link to the court order that enjoins Mueller from doing anything.
    The Friedrich decision doesn't.

    And the decision also doesn't use the words "sweeping systematic", so where are you quoting that from?
     
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    Mueller has no trouble swatting away the spurious allegations against him.

    They are, though, splendiferous concoctions.
     
  8. PrincipleInvestment

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    Go to the link I already provided. Judge Friedrich ruling does not quote the statements / press releases which content consists of Russia / Kremlin / Spies "sweeping systematic". Judge Friedrich instead prohibits the content of those statements / press releases from being repeated. Concords initial objections and subsequent motions cite those same statements / press releases. If you choose to remain wilfully ignorant of the characterizations the court specifically addressed and prohibited that's on you. I've lead you to water ... you prefer the Kool-aid.
     
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    But where do you claim Mueller violated said directive?
     
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    Mueller can's swat away judge Friedrich finding of guilt. Mueller violated the DC criminal statute 57.7 Freidrich put Mueller in a diversion program when she declined to jail the 1st time offender. Mueller turned right around and violated the terms of his probation by violating the gag that's still in effect. Bob's best defense is diminished capacity, or a pathological disorder. Freidrich found he broke the law the 1st time, and she'll find him guilty again.
     
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    Judge Friedrich made no such finding
     
  12. PrincipleInvestment

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    You should read the judges ruling ... I provided it for a reason. 1st paragraph "Although the court agrees that the government violated CR 57.7 it disagrees that contempt proceedings are an appropriate response to that violation. INSTEAD ... "FURTHER VIOLATIONS ... TRIGGER a RANGE of SANCTIONS". Mueller's on PROBATION. Non prosecution is not exoneration.
     
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    You claimed Mueller was ordered to do (or not to do) something.

    That's wrong. There's no order naming Mueller.
     
  14. PrincipleInvestment

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    :roflol: Except the court ruling that I posted, and you're arguing with. Geez ... you only have to read the 1st paragraph. Mueller's name appears 1st ... Barr gets coralled by extension ... and by the time the CR 57.7 violation gets cited in the 1st paragraph the US "government" is wearing the stain of Mueller's criminal violation. You're killin' me ... :roflol:
     
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    That is a judgment that talks about Mueller.

    The final order did not order Mueller to do or not do anything.

    Anyway, it is moot. He won't speak again about this case publicly. He isn't interested in the limelight.
     
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    In the tradition of their Cesar "False Flag" Sayoc whom the Trump crackpots insisted was a Democratic operative as vehemently as they fantasize that climate change is a Chinese hoax, or a popular two term president was a foreign-born Muslim.

    This great white hope isn't their first:

    We all remember how Fake Don tried to perpetuate his lie that millions of invisible people had all cast bogus ballots against him:

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    The media reported it, not President Trump. Is that "foreign" to you? :)
     
  18. PrincipleInvestment

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    Post # 87 ... The violation of 57.7 is undeniable. Freidrich at her discretion declined to find Mueller in felony contemp. Mueller was instructed that FURTHER VIOLATIONS of CR 57.7 would result in a range of sanctions. Mueller violated again when he publicly proclaimed Russia engaged in a sweeping systematic campaign of interference at his congression hearing. Don't belive it? Don't care. There are the facts.
     
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    The facts are that the judge said that Mueller WAS complying with 57.7.

    "To the contrary, the government has demonstrated that moving forward it will comply with Rule 57.7 and any further order of the Court. On May 29, 2019, following the Court’s hearing, the Special Counsel held a press conference to announce the conclusion of his investigation and his resignation as Special Counsel. In delivering his remarks, the Special Counsel carefully distinguished between the efforts by “Russian intelligence officers who were part of the Russian military” and the efforts detailed “in a separate indictment” by “a privateRussian entity engaged in a social media operation where Russian citizens posed as Americans in order to interfere in the election.” Special Counsel Statement Tr. (emphases added). He also repeatedly referred to the activities described in the Report as “allegations” and made clear that his Office was “not commenting on the guilt or innocence of any specific defendant.” Id. The Special Counsel added that the defendants were “presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty in court.” Id. These actions demonstrate that the government understands and intends to abide by the Court’s May 28, 2018 Order, and they serve as a strong indication that contempt proceedings would be both unnecessary and excessive under the circumstances."

    So Concord brings proceedings to have Barr and Mueller held in contempt. Judge doesn't find them in contempt, and notes that the government shows every intention of complying with 57.7 going forward.

    The judge specifically noted that the May 28 press conference was not a breach of 57.7. Can you quote the language from Mueller's hearing that you claim puts him in breach of 57.7?
     
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    Concord is supposed to be a food catering service. Why would it have an interest in our elections? But it's going to court, so we will see.
    But the focus of the article is on Mueller--like an attempt to discredit him for investigating possible election issues. It seems that people are pushing way too hard to smear him.
     
  22. Bluesguy

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    Mueller violated a court order, twice. The companies in question have rights and the investigation did not find they are Russian front companies, that allegation was not made.
     
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    Ok, so that's between Mueller and Concord. Why are we applauding the fact that Mueller got warned? This thread has an anti-Mueller taint, and I'm wondering why.
     
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    It's between Mueller and the judge for making unsupported assertions he and the DOJ have been ordered to stop making.
     
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    When are the two times he violated a court order?
     

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