Did Trump even say it?

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  1. Josephwalker

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    The media is reporting that Trump specifically called African nations and Haiti "**** hole countries". These countries are now asking for apologies based on this fake news and the Democrats along with their media have once again been caught trying to divide America and destroy Trump. Despite the news accounts there is nobody saying Trump actually said the exact words the media is reporting. Notice how durbin chooses his words carefully and seems to confirm media reports but if you look closer he does no such thing. Two Republicans on the other hand say he specifically did not use these "specific comments". The verdict here is not guilty. Will fake news never end?

    "Durbin said Trump repeated the term “shithole” during a meeting that was, ostensibly, a discussion about a potentially bipartisan deal on the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals or DACA. Trump has since tweeted that he used “tough” language during the meeting but never used the derogatory language that has caused outrage across the globe."

    "Two Republican senators who were also at the meeting Thursday — Tom Cotton of Arkansas and David Perdue of Georgia — have since issued a joint statement, saying they didn’t recall Trump “saying these comments specifically.”

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/dick-durbin-confirms-trump-shithole-comments/
     
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    Yay, more fake news conspiracies. I guess we can expect this every time Trump is held accountable, huh?

    “I don’t recall” sounds like an odd statement. You either remember it or you don’t. It’s not a game of selective amnesia.
     
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    saying they didn’t recall Trump “saying these comments specifically.”

    About the weakest denial imaginable
     
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    he said African countries are shitholes and then went on to say take Haiti off the list, so one could say he did or did not mean Haiti, Trump could clear this up if he wanted too
     
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    Nobody is saying Trump said the words that the media is reporting he did. Nobody!
     
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    I do not put any stock in denials by Trump but believe he would say such a thing.
     
  7. Josephwalker

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    Once again Trump never said the words the media is reporting he did and not a single person on scene is saying he did. This is textbook fake news.
     
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    But a denial none-the-less.
     
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    Believe what you like but not a single person is quoted in media reports confirming their account is true.
     
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    It's the way all lawyers and politicians talk.
     
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    Who gives a flying F if he said it or not?? It’s true regardless of who may have said it.

    Pretending that a basic statement of fact like that offends you somehow is pure BS. So quit pretending that you’re offended, and get your panties out of your dark, and remote crevices.
     
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    I don't get it - in all of this furor over something Trump may or may not have said is the DACA situation which will now die - all of those illegal aliens will be sent back to the wonderful not-shithole countries they came from. Do the Democrats have an end game? If so, I don't see it.
     
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    I don't care if he said it or not and i hope he did but the fact is the media is reporting he said it without a single source. Nobody will say Trump said these words in the context the media is reporting so it's more fake news.
     
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    In other words, it’s a normal day in the drive by media world. I don’t take them seriously whatsoever at this point, I use them as material to mock mostly.
     
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    Whatever you say.
     
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    My reason for this thread is just to point out that everyone including myself at times is starting to talk as if it's a given Trump said this reported comment. The fact is it looks like more fake news that has set a narrative in people's minds that just isn't true. I don't like seeing media myth become fact to the point that other countries are demanding an apology based on a fake news story.
     
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    Once again he does not confirm the specific statement the media is reporting.
     
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    I know, and I appreciate you posting the simple lack of evidence.

    This is a great example of the saying “a lie will make it’s way around the world twice, before the truth can put its pants on”

    The drive by’s will report the version they want to believe, they will not question the validity of a statement that is too good to proof/source.
     
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    They don't recall just one day after the conversations?? Did you talk with any one yesterday? Do you recall whether or not any of the people made a derogatory comment or not? I'll bet you do. If it wasn't said why don't they say: "no, he didn't say that"? Give me a break!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Be careful not to get multiple hernias by carrying so much water for the fat ****ead.
     
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    Durbin has a history of lying about private meetings. It's easy to Google and see that.
     
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    So if a bunch of Republicans in a closed door meeting just got together and said OBama said “....” would that be ok?
     
  23. Josephwalker

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    It's lawyer speak and a way to cover your ass if you missed something. Fact is not a single person at this meeting will stand up and say the media account of this is exactly as stated. Even the media won't put quotes on Trump's supposed statement.
     
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    Let's look at durbins statement and how he carefully chooses his words.

    "You've seen the comments in the press — I have not read one of them that's inaccurate."

    Notice how he uses the word "comments" and not "quotes".
    He is saying he agrees with their comments not on the reported Trump statement. Tricky huh.
     
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    Bullshit, it's a way of kissing your masters ass. Lawyer speak is: No comment.
     

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