Did Trump or anyone in his campaign collude or attempt to collude?

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Did Trump or campaign staff collude or try to collude?

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  2. No

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Very simply question. Do you believe Trump or any of his campaign staff colluded or tried to collude with Russia or Wikileaks or hackers?

    This includes making offers or simply going to meetings where an offer may be made.

    What say you?

    I say YES.
     
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    I say yes..
     
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  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Attempt to set up a quid pro quo with Russia, Russians or hackers?

    absolutely.

    whas it successful? who knows.

    but I have no doubt someone made an attempt. The Trump Tower meeting is one example.
     
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    Why would they?

    Its not like Russia really put that much effort into anything.

    Let's look at it.

    They spent around 15 to 30 k on Facebook ads compared to the hundreds of millions spent on ads from the campaigns.

    Does anyone actually think that those few ads had an impact on anything?

    lol

    And even beyond that you have the super pacs spending millions pushing their people yet the left wants us to think that a few ads on Facebook from Russia actually made everything else irrelevant?

    Hahahaha

    So no, Trump would not waste his time with Russia, he would be selling out to Goldman Sachs or some other company that actually can make a difference.
     
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    In terms of impeachment or even evaluation, whether Trump "colluded" or someone on his staff did are entirely different matters.

    We KNOW that Hilary Clinton "colluded" with Russians as did Bill Clinton - and for massive personal profit.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no investigation has found anything of the sort.

    all you have is baseless and obsessive Clinton Derangement Syndrome
     
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    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    No more than what Hillary did.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    And the factual basis of your "no doubt", in other words if you were on a jury and everything we know to be fact was presented to you what would be the basis of your guilty verdict?

    I bet it is all based on conjecture and supposition.
     
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    Being elected to office has always proved to be highly profitable for the Clinton's and since the only collusion with foreign agents and Russia occurred through the DNC and Clinton campaign where are the indictments?
     
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    This Thread is about Trump
     
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    And Russian collusion. Try again.

    Being elected to office has always proved to be highly profitable for the Clinton's and since the only collusion with foreign agents and Russia occurred through the DNC and Clinton campaign where are the indictments?
     
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    I dont know, but I do know that no matter what Mueller presents many of you will still say the man is guilty and many of the Trump people will still say he is innocent. Because facts and evidence does not matter to either side now.
     
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    i authored the thread, know what its about.

    its about Trump, his campaign, and collussion with Russia, Russian hackers or Wikileaks.

    anything else is a derail and will be reported.
     
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    "absolutely" that means you have clear convincing beyond reasonable doubt evidence.

    What is it. We have it with the DNC/Clinton collusion do you also apply the absolutely to that collusion?
     
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    Define 'collude' then show us how it is even relevant to American elections in which each individual casts their own votes and is responsible or being informed of their choices...
     
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    its very likely that someone in the Trump campaign tried to collude.

    the Trump Tower meeting is the biggest example
     
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    There is guilty under the law, and there is guilty as sin. Trump may just be guilty as sin. Which is an impeachable offense. In the court of public opinion. And when you are toast there, YOU ARE TOAST. Which is why they are duking it out in public.
     
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    keep in mind, no exchange of things of value is neccessary to be guilty of collusion.

    only an offer.

    if someone in the Trump campaign said to Russia, or Russian hackers, or Wikileaks "you do this and we will do that", this is illegal collussion.
     
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    I guess we'll find out in 2045 when this investigation ends
     
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    "Collude" is a non-legal term that means whatever anyone wants it to mean.
     
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    Very clearly the DNC, Obama and Clinton colluded with Russia - massively - AND engaged in massive obstruction of justice which is what matters - for which Comey and Mueller engaged in and Mueller is still engaging in MASSIVE obstruction of justice by handing out immunity to Democrats like candy so the Democrats in Congress keep backing up his personal for-profit operation for himself and his buddies. Since the Democrats engaged in collusion before Trump was even in the election, that should be dealt with first.

    "Collusion" is nothing. Criminal obstruction of justice is a crime. That is what Obama, Clinton and some high ranking Democrats in the DNC did.
     
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    All his life he has felt he had the entitlement to carry himself above any law or level of moral decency. If he felt it would be to his advantage why wouldn't he?
     
  24. Ronstar

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    committing conspiracy to violate Federal election laws is a crime.
     
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    wrong again.

    in this context "collussion" means conspiring with the Russian govt, Russian hackers, or Wikileaks to receive illegally acquired dirty on Hillary in exchange for favorable future legislation regarding Russia.
     

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