Did Trump or anyone in his campaign collude or attempt to collude?

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Did Trump or campaign staff collude or try to collude?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    57.1%
  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    'Going to a meeting where an offer may be made' is not collusion. Any offer can be made by anyone at any meeting.

    I voted no.
     
  2. John Sample

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    Obviously one of the Trumps was open to dirt from Russia on Hillary. Dry hole. That is not a crime. It is questionable whether paying for a dossier produced by the Russians. Is. Certainly presenting it to FISA courts as "intelligence"
     
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    The dossier. Nuff said.
     
  4. Nemesis

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    Hiring a opposition research firm is now a crime?

    I can't wait to read all about this crazy theory......
     
  5. wyly

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    no court will agree with you, to knowingly collude/conspire to commit a crime is illegal.

    I know of a man who went to prison for a long stretch because he made an illegal offer to my buddy, ...in my buddies case he went to the police regarding the offer which he no knowledge of prior to the meeting, his testimony sent the man other man to prison...

    did Don jr go the the authorities when the illegal offer was made to him? no he jumped in with both feet and then lied about it...GUILTY!
     
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    By Christopher Steeleovich?

    *LOL*

    Uh, no, my reason-deprived amigo.
     
  7. wyly

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    the only Dossier I know of is the Christopher Steele dossier, and Steele isn't a russian, ex MI6 intelligence( you know the good guys, not kgb)
     
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    Then the OP should have specified 'knowingly going to meetings where an offer may be made.' As it is worded, simply being at any meeting where an offer of collusion could be made 'out of the blue' would be counted.
     
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    he was informed of the offer ahead of time, knew who the offer was coming from and agreed to the meeting and then did...GUILTY!...and made no attempt to inform the authorities before or after...no secondary crime needs to be carried out as a result of the meeting, only that a conspiracy to commit a crime took place...
     
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    You should probably tell Mueller about it. He keeps coming up with
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    really, have you been keeping count of how many people are going to prison LOL!...mueller is methodically working up the food chain to the top...
     
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    You have to be really delusional to think Mueller has a "nothingburger" here.
     
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    Oh I know. The investigation in to Russia Collusion has resulted in a bunch of folks the left doesn't like, getting in trouble for everything except Russia Collusion.

    Its almost like the whole thing was made up as a means to manufacture process crimes against political opponents. But surely not....
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    Is that what Sean Hannity says?
     
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    Did Hillary or anyone in the Hillary campaign or the DNC collude with and paid Russians for a fake dossier on Donald Trump ?

    Now we know why the Democrats are yelling "Russia Russia Russia"....they got scammed paying millions for a fake dossier.
     
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    don't know anyone can hear what Hannity has to say seeing as he has his head is so far up trumps butt...
     
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    the truth being the more the dossier is looked at the more more that is confirmed is true....none of what remains to be verified has been disproven...

    and let's not forget who initiated the Dossier on trump, it was the republicans who hired FusionGPS an american firm to look into trumps background

    the DNC only took over what the repubilicans began with FusionGPS and had no knowledge of Christopher Steele ( a subcontractor hired by FusionGPS) nor did Christopher Steele know who he was working for

    so far nothing in the dossier has proven to be fake...
     
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    Obviously, Putin's and Trump's agents shared a common goal of promoting Trump's candidacy, met repeatedly, and lied about their meetings.

    Whether they actively coordinated their activities may or may not ever be provable.

    Since the Trump Department of Justice appointed a Republican "Special Counsel to oversee the previously-confirmed FBI investigation of Russian government efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election and related matters," and that Republican Special Counsel has been scrupulously discrete in not prematurely divulging findings in that ongoing patriotic endeavor, speculation is, inevitably, a self-serving self-indulgence.

    "Let's wait and see," is the only prudent position to assume.
     
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    Do you still get 25c a post Wyly?
     
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    Did Trump or anyone in his campaign collude or attempt to collude?
    Everybody has the right to be assumed innocent until proven guilty. The Mueller probe isn't complete & their findings are secret, so that's no help YET. But an ever growing series of secret meetings held between close associates to Trump and Russians closely connected to Putin personally, keep cropping up. The overall affect of these is to support the idea that Trump possibly did collude with them in the campaign against Hillary, &/or simply to promote his Trump Tower in Moscow--either of which should be enough to warrant impeachment.
     
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    Or proven.

    Nobody would piss on a bed that Obama already slept on.
    But many (tens of millions) would piss on a bed that Obama would be sleeping on.

    The issue is a British former intelligence agent was paid by Clinton and the DNC to meddle in our elections and the British subject paid Russians using the Clinton's and DNC money for Russians to meddle in our elections.
     
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    You appear to be attempting a diversion from the topic, "Did Trump or anyone in his campaign collude or attempt to collude?"

    The Trump Justice Department Special Counsel has an expansive mandate, and if such hyper-partisan contrivances have any merit or relevance, it is entirely appropriate to expect him to include them within his purview.
     
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    how's the weather in Moscow today? say hi to Vlad for me....
     
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    lol of coarse none of that is true but you could easily source that yourself but won't....

    FusionGPS hired Steele a british agent(allied intelligence) not the DNC...Steele didn't know the end source of his dossier was the DNC...in the end the was no meddling regardless the DNC didn't use the info, whereas trump did use the russian intelligence
     

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