Did Yahweh do us a favor by denying us eternal life?

Not really.

One must believe something outside the box to posit such lies. Faith is a generator of lies.

Everything said of supernatural gods are lies as we have no access to such a realm, except by imaginary thinking.

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DL

 

Baah - no more do we know the stories of Gods are lies -anymore than those who posit the stories of Gods are true.

 

Supernatural gods and other realms are two different things. No one who has not done sufficient research and experimentation can claim with authority a blanket exclusion labeled as lies.

Rudolph Steiner, a clairvoyant, advocated "intuition, imagination, and inspiration." Back in the 1920s and 1930s he described the "God Particle" discovered by physicists in recent times. No one can convince me that there's no credibility outside the box.

 

I disagree, based on the facts they never produce.

All the god religions are based on lies as they all go against nature and would have us adore a genocidal prick of a god.

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DL

 

You might want to revisit that author. He was Gnostic Christian friendly.

That show a superior intelect.



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DL

 

Perhaps some Gods came from the sky - as the stories of civilizations past seem to suggest - these Gods needed to mine Gold from the Earth to stabilize the atmosphere of their own world - the work was hard and the workers revolted - Petitions were brought to Enlil - Son of the Chief - Anu. An assembly was held - Enki - the other son of Anu and great Scientist - suggested a resolution to the problem.

Enki's suggestion was to take a primitive human - and crossbreed between that and the Gods - referred to as Annunaki.

These new hybrids were called "Adamu" - interesting name - should ring a few bells - and I believe the word means a mixture of earth and blood -

The story goes on to detail how the Adamu became numerous - in one story they become an annoyance to some of the Gods - hence the plot to destroy the these Adamu through a great flood. One of the God's favors one of the Adamu and helps him to build a boat - Atrahasis text.

Who is to say - that there is not some truth to this story - as Ancient Alien Theorists would suggest !!

 

There is no disagreement - nothing to disagree with - Lack of proof is not proof of a lie.

 

Thanks for the reference. I might have to add that to my collection of his works. But that doesn't exclude what came out of his clairvoyant perception.

 

Have you noticed that in the main photos of the Annunaki that they use shows a pineal gland, which is key to understanding that this is just a myth.

I tried to get the Ancient Alien guys to speak to this but only got silence.

There are interesting and evil weird things around, but to believe too much based on interpretations and outright lies is not a good idea.

Take your gold ideas. There are meteors that are quite rich in gold as compared to the earth.

Those would be mined by an advanced race before the earth would be.

Further, they would have rock drills and yet al the old mines found are hand hewned.

Careful on what you believe.

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DL

 

Not sure why are you are attributing belief in such fairy tales to me Your claim with respect to Gold makes no sense.

No idea what photos you are referring to - as I never mentioned any photo's. I was talking about the beliefs of the Sumerians and Near east culture with respect to their creation stories .. not some silly photo you found on an Alien website.

 

Lack of facts shows that only the gullible would believe it.

If all the person has is religious hearsay, he is likely knowingly lying as he has no provable facts.

Any court of law would throw out such testimony and so should we all, if intelligent.

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It is the main one they use.

You do know what a pineal gland is. Right?

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DL

 

Adamu = red clay. The Tower of Babel is another counteraction by "the Gods."

Some skeptics have tried to claim that there are no ancient gold mines that are suggestive of possible Annunaki/hybrid activity, but the mines are there, including some candidates in South Africa. Other oddities have also turned up, such as elongated skulls with nonhuman suture patterns and nonhuman skull thickness.

 

What part of "Lack of proof is not proof of a lie" did you not understand the first go round ?

 

It is the main one who uses - certainly not me .. Your claim that asteroids would necessarily be mined prior to mining the earth is made up gibberish - fantastical story - and actually quite irrational.

The pineal gland does not factor into anything I have said.

 

Lack of proof and evidence for any statement, religious or not, should be discarded for the lie it is.

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It did in what I put.

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DL

 

It doesn't matter if anything is there - If all we had was the stories - completely bereft of the stele's - artifacts - history of these people and so on - Stories which date back at least 4500 years - and start from there - what can we say ?

We can say "wow man - Far out" - interesting that these folks believed they were created as a function of "sky people" - cool concept.

But - this was not just one tribe of hippies - this was the cradle of civilization - and for thousands of years - anyone who was anybody believed this version of events in one form or another - Sargon of Akkad united the city states in Sumeria/Sumer into the worlds first Empire around 2400 BC ..

This empire in in one form or another - dominates the region until roughly 500 BC when Persia takes over - 2000 years - and thats what folks believe .. Babylonians, Assyrians, Cannanites Israelites, Egyptians, Hittities, - anyone who was anybody - Probably the good ol Philistines and sea peoples as well.

Its just what you did ... thinking of that XX commercial "The most interesting man in the world - drinks XX" - and for 2000 years that dude believed the Star people came down and did some hybrid stuff - not just humans and Annunaki - but Enki did a few experiments in his Lab prior to the official Trial - creating all kinds of half man half who knows what creatures. .. or half Annunaki half who knows what. Perhaps an Annunaki Goat creature would have made a better worker ? but at the end of the day - for what ever reason - the AK-Neanderthal mixture worked out the best.

Now it matters not if any any of the Story that these folks believed was true - What is interesting is that this is what these folks- including the most interesting man in the world - believed for 2000 years.

In 500 BC there was a Change of the guard - Persia - the whole system changed. The language of commerce (like English Today) had been Elamite for 2000 years .. cunaiform was still dominant and ideogramatic language - even though phonetics (a symbol for a sound rather than an Idea) had been around since something like 1600 BC.

Boom - Persia happens - Zoroastrianism - a monotheistic religion is one of the main religions in Persia - The king of Persia is said by the Israelite's to be the one annointed by God

But - you know what ... the story does not disappear - it is just reworked into a different religious paradigm -

Certainly the God of Jesus is up in the Sky - came down - messed with some clay - "Earth" - Earthling" -- hmmm and humans were begat.

It is not God that creates humans it is "The Gods". and the Adamu is created in OUR image - to be Like US. .. OH .. OK .. same story.

like the other story - the some of the God's have sex with the offspring - Genesis stating that the offspring were the hero's of renoun or some such thing - that is the main version these days is it not ?

This is what everyone believed.. including the Israelites.. who were wiped out and dispersed by Assyria the Northern Kingdom -- then Babylon round 600 BC.

Persia then came in and saved the day. Persia had freedom of religion - the Jews were allowed to rebuild the Temple - The new religion created - what we now know as Judaism - has its roots here - starting with God's anointed King - Cyrus the Great.

Christian Monotheism has its roots here as well. One could argue Akhenaten is rooted further back .. but this is nothing like what happened under Persia - and the wave of Zoroastrian thinking - Zoroastrian style Monotheism - which had been around for centuries prior to this.

Was a Changing of the Guard ..

So which is the most correct religious version of the story ? - the Old or the New ? The story of how man came to be.

Or how about we go with evolution .. but, this does not rule out help either - and we did seem to advance rather quickly.

Damn Aliens are messin with stuff ...

 

What part of "Lack of proof is not proof of a lie" did you not understand the first, second, and third go round ?

I am starting to lose confidence in your ability to grasp this concept. Don't fail me

 

The gold mines go back 90,000 years and more.

 

Lack of proof is not proof that it is true not a lie.

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DL

 

Lack of proof is not proof that something is a lie. - If we can't agree on this simple truth - it is impossible to go any further.

 

It is to the one who cries wolf to show the tracks or the ****.
It is not to the rest of the town to show that the wolf was imaginary.

Reverse onus is for dummies.

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DL

 

Lack of proof - is not proof of a lie. Just because the boy can not show you the wolf he saw - does not mean Johnny did not see a wolf.

You are the one claiming a lie exists - but can not prove your claim - and thus are projecting your particular issue onto the other.

You are the one accusing the other of lying - and putting the onus on the other to provide proof to the contrary.

 

So we end with two unproven claims without evidence or proof.

Nice argument, but rather a waste of time.

Done here buddy.

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