Did You Change Your Mind About 9/11? When? Why?

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  1. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believed the "Official Story" for about 2 days but the more facts that came out and common sense led me to know it was an inside job with very likely Mossad involvement.

    As a blacksmith & former Army combat engineer, I work with steel and have some experience in demolition work. There is no way that jet fuel can affect the structural integrity of steel to the degree claimed nor do buildings randomly self implode unless there are professional demolition experts involved.

    The question to ask is who benefited most from this crime. The answer, of course, is those who wish to engender enmity toward Muslims enough to drive America to war against an Islamic nation of AIPAC's choice.

    "We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq," Ma'ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. (Netanyahu) He reportedly added that these events "swung American public opinion in our favor."

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    the people who STILL think that jet fuels caused the collapse indeed dont know the difference between hollywood and reality just as you said so well.:roflol:

    In the REAL world,a tower falling down merely from jet fuel,does NOT explode UPWARDS into powder like that disintegrating into NOTHING where you cannot even find a telephone,a desk,or a chair smashed into pieces from a mere collapse.:rolleyes:

    EXPERT fireman involved in explosives could not believe what they found,they were totally insulted by the governments version of events,to ignore what these credible expert firemen said that the official story is BS and to ignore all these facts that cannot be refuted that a coverup took place at the pentagon,that they could never prove a jet airliner hit it and the ovewheling evidence we have presented here that explosives brought the towers down,I DARE people here to tell those surviving firefighters they were wrong that explosives brought them down to their face.anyone who still thinks the fires brought them down is lying cause they know better.
     
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    the facts cannot be refuted that 9/11 was an inside job.that it was a joint CIA/mossad operation.these three video here prove it beyond a shread of doubt.NOBODY has ever been able to debunk them.





    you 9/11 official conspiracy theory apologists have been owned that it was a CIA/MOSSAD operation,deal with it.:D

    Indeed,you nailed it.the people that make the ignorant and asinine claim that jet fuel weakened the steel and caused the collapse of the towers have no explanation for bld 7 since it was NOT hit by an airliner making the jet fuel argument total bs.:rolleyes: enough of this bs jet fuel crap already,that is disproven with bld 7.

    plus they ignore what all the witnesses said on hearing explosions,many of them being experienced firefighters experienced in the sound of explosives.:rolleyes:

    as well as ignoring that jet fuel does not melt steel as many of the steel columns were melted for several months after that and that office furniture was disintegrated and that the buildings disintegrated into powder exploding upwards.all IMPOSSIBLE from a mere collapse of a building.none of that stuff EVER happens when a building collapses.:rolleyes: and again for the fools who think jet fuel caused it,jet fuel does not MELT steel as there were MANY pools of melted steel there found.:rolleyes: get off the weed official conspiracy theory apologists.:weed:

    all you official conspiracy theory apologists were just owned by me in these three videos and the official conspiracy theory apologists cannot touch or refute facts in post# 87,90,99, 100and 101 of Bobs here that explosives brought them down,they have ALL failed miserably.:grin: he OWNED you as well.deal with it.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-your-mind-about-9-11-when-why.507908/page-5

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-your-mind-about-9-11-when-why.507908/page-6
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe that people who believe the Official version of 9/11 aren't always lying. I believe that Americans, in general, are simply more gullible than other nationalities & easily duped by MSM which is complicit in the cover-up
     
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    I am not talking about all people in the country who believe it of course.just the people that post here and troll everyday at this section.most are paid shills on Israels payroll. the ones that ignore the irrefutable facts presented by the OP and just come back and post lie after lie as they do,those are the liars I am talking about.

    They are the paid shills i was referring to. You can spot one of them easily over someone who is just a blind sheep because the sheep that are in denial,they just run off with their tail between their legs and dont come back when they are presented with irrefutable facts that explosives brought the towers down as the OP has done an excellent job of in this thread with the help of people like me and scott of of course.:D the official conspiracy theory apologists cannot touch or refute facts in post# 87,90,99, 100and 101 of Bobs here that explosives brought them down,they have ALL failed miserably.:grin:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-your-mind-about-9-11-when-why.507908/page-5

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-your-mind-about-9-11-when-why.507908/page-6
     
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    The “er murh gud bruildng 7 proves da gobment done it!” Lime has been beatin to death so long it’s not even funny anymore. That bullshit “control det” crap has been debunked. Legitimate explanations have been given. Yet you guys refuse to even acknowledge them. That’s on you folks.
     
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    Yeah, I see exactly what YOU mean, pure denial.
     
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    That's about right. Before any research came out, I thought the robot plane theory was probably correct because if fit the pattern of false flags.
     
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    Yup. But it’s ok. Eventually you truthers will figure your lives out.
     
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    It's not about your demons ("truthers") or their lives, it's about reality, the kind you refuse to acknowledge.
     
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    You mean The reality you truthers refuse to live in?
     
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    Yes yes. You’ve been copy pasting that same drivel for years now. We’ve all seen and debunked it numerous times before.
     
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    Who is "we"? YOU haven't even posted one word in the thread, never mind "debunked" anything. YOU don't have the credentials or the knowledge to "debunk" any of Dr. Leon Hulsey's study or that of any of the experts whose papers and videos have been posted and YOU haven't even made an attempt. The only "drivel" here are YOUR claims.
     
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    Before any research came out, I was not aware that the planes exceeded VMO by a large margin or how difficult it would be even for an ace pilot trained in flying such an aircraft to hit such a target with dead on accuracy without ground assistance. I did find it extremely suspect that not one of these planes were intercepted though. I also wasn't aware of the multiple (12!) military exercises that took place on the morning of 9/11 that effectively rendered air defenses in the entire eastern corridor impotent. So I had very little to go on other than suspicions. But I could only attribute my failure to be alert on my lack of knowledge of the facts. The video 9/11 Mysteries opened my eyes to a host of things that were wrong or questionable about the official narrative. Other videos and articles only confirmed my suspicions.
     
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    Do you believe that the Mossad was involved in this False Flag as they have been involved in False Flag Ops to draw the US into wars with Islamic countries since the Lavon Affair in the 1950s

    Please note, cui bono:

    "We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq," Ma'ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. (Netanyahu) He reportedly added that these events "swung American public opinion in our favor."

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    I don't know who was directly involved but 9/11 was the gift that keeps on giving. For sure the military industrial complex and other specific entities benefited tremendously from 9/11. There is no question the Bush administration was at the very least indirectly involved in 9/11. Without a doubt there was a stand down and an extreme coverup. 9/11 could never have happened without the assistance (stand down) of the Bush administration.
     

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