Differences between males and femaies

So he thought women want to be men?

 

Kindly refrain from projecting your own inadequacies onto others.

 

It is noteworthy that Tesla never married.

 

Makes sense. .thumbsup:

Uh-oh!

My soul is already a secluded island creating memories of life's uglier cousin...

No wonder divorce rates are up then as school tells kids to "don't do drugs, m'kay?"

It is no news that nerds are socially awkward.

 

FTR here is the entire article;

http://anengineersaspect.blogspot.com/2011/07/nikola-tesla-mr-tesla-explains-why-he.html

 

Analysing his views and opinions from back then compared to where we are today, Tesla was well ahead of his time in every field. He foresaw the changes and the deterioration it would lead to in society.

I agree with virtually the entire article. He works on logic which is the best way to work.

 

Fortunately they stopped “boys corners” and girls corners in kindergartens . They have also improved upon toys where they used to show boys with action toys and just showed girls with dolls. This is called socialization. You’re talking about the Barbies and having to save the girls Is socialization
You are wrong about little boys and I am talking about the three-year-olds and four-year-olds wanting to make their nails bright colors. Maybe you didn’t want to but liking night colors isn’t genetic.
You might not Remember boys didn’t want to wear earrings, boys didn’t want to wear print shirts, boys didn’t want to wear jewelry, boys didn’t want pony tails boys didn’t want lots of things because they were feminine but that is changing. Girls can do both and now boys are getting more options like haircuts that are unique
Girls have always had the freedom to wear pants and girls have always had the freedom to wear their hair anyway they wanted, it is boys who have been held back because of femiphobia

 

Sounds like mindless waffle from someone who doesn’t think rights and equality are important

 

Tesla was extremely logical. Rights and equality are primarily illogical.

 

How far back do we need to go to find "girls' corners" and "boys' corners" in kindergartens? It sure was not the case when I went to kindergarten and I do agree that it is rather problematic if kindergarten-teachers - whom are not partens but pedagogues - intervene in the play of other people's children by handing them gender stereotypical toys. Luckily, I cannot remember anything like that happening "back in my days".

I think you are overestimating the role of "socialisation" here and even if we accept "socialisation" as the source of gender differences, you will have a hard time making a waterproof case. Because how can you raise a child without socialising them?

The average boy does not like painting his nails.

That is an over-simplification with its roots in ideological bias. I would argue that it is our social interaction with biology that creates the gender norms you are speaking of. It is not that a boy does not want ponytails and jewelry because they are girly, they are girly because it is girls who want them.

Ah, of course. Even when boys are being perceived to be "held back" by Feminists their conclusion is that it is an expression of Femiphobia®. When a boy is hurt, the girl is hurt even more.

 

You and I disagree about socialization...you must think it’s genetic that 3 year old girls like to paint their nails bright colors but boys don’t. Mamas will paint the girls nails but she would never dream of doing that for her son. But now rock stars are painting their nails and eventually that will be another thing that will be a norm
Why do boys wear ponytails and jewelry now? In the past it was taboo because the girls wore them...again socialization and sexism . It takes a confident man to let boys express their wishes to have more choices. What you are being an extremist again assuming that I think there are no differences between boys and girls. They’re definitely our differences all I am saying is that boys are discouraged from doing anything girls do while girls are encouraged to do what boys do. And that reality came in my class from a 13-year-old boy when he realized , “what a boy does obviously has more value than what a girl does”

 

Was t talking about Tesla

 

I am not sure if "genetic" is the correct term to use, but I am sure there is a biological explanation to it. Bottom line, however, remains; boys don't like it.

Since when is nail polish a big societal issue anyways?

Yeah. Well. Who cares?

Rockstars have worn nail polish (mostly black, mind you) and long hair for decades now. It never was a norm and it never will be a norm. Rockstars take pride in being non-normative. The only men who are painting tneir nails are the ones who want to signal their musical preference. It is entirely a matter of sub culture.

It is called fashion and fashion is never timeless, it is in constant motion and constant change.

This is not true though! No parent with a sane mind and a loving heart would tell their daughter; "See, Renee... Basketball is for boys and you are just a girl. Here is some nail polish for you, sweet little princess[.]" or their son that: "Come on now, Ritter. Dancing is for girls. You can't dance. Here, take this hammer and go smash some ants or something."

Like, no. That does not happen.

He was wrong though and I hope you told him so or else he might develop some serious self-loathe and we do not want more teenagers diving down that dark tunnel.

 

I didn’t make nail polish a big societal issue. I was just giving an example of boys having to suppress things the way they used to have to suppress pretty things because daddy would have a fit if they had girly things. You see very little children don’t know the difference between girly and boyish
Long hair in unusual hair styles for young men is now the norm..what girls once owned exclusivily, now boys are wearing...just showing they didn’t have the freedom of expression because of femiphobia, but that’s changing and guys are stepping outside of the narrow box .
Maybe you are different but a lot of boys parents would deny their son ballet lessons in this country. Girls would be encouraged to do sports but boys would hardly be encouraged to take up knitting. Girls can do it boys do and are encouraged but boys are discouraged from doing what girls do and if you’re going to say no then there’s nothing I could say to you
Why would a boy who believes what boys do has more value suffer from self loathing? He was just a boy who realize that he didn’t have the freedom to do what girls do because it was considered being “less” another boy was saying how he loves double Dutch jump rope and he does it outside with the girls and some boys.....But he admitted he would never buy the ropes.

 

I still do not understand what the problem that you are trying to highlight is. You keep changing the tenses and it is not clear if you think "gender suppression" is a thing of the past and we are now in Utopia or that it still exists and is the biggest problem of the modern world. In one sentence you claim (paraphrasing) "boys used to[...] but not anymore" and in the next you say "[...] and that is why they are."

It is difficult to keep up with your logic.

This is not true at all. Children are extremely gender aware and they are great at telling what is girly and what is boyish. They are not stupid, you know. I am shocked that a mother and a teacher would could claim the opposite.

This paragraph includes some astonishing logical somersaults and an even more foolhardy conclusion - Something that is "unsual" can - per defition - not be a norm since a norm is the name of what is usual. Secondly, you are - once again - brining up an example where you think boys are disadvantaged and you conclusion is that this is ebcause girls are victims (what the flippen heck?).

None of it makes any sense and there really are no points or arguments to address here.

What is it that "girls do" that "boys cannot do" in the modern world today? It is even unlikely that a young girl in 2019 would ask her parents for a "knitting kit" for birthday, so that is not a very good example at all. These days, girls doing sports and boys not doing sports are both equally normalised and most parents would encourage their child to do what they like no matter their gender.

 

Science and logic supersedes emotional response. You may not like it but the differences between men and women are not patriarchal, they are natural.

 

I am sorry if I switch tenses....I think I try to show the changes that you say are inborn
Of course children are gender aware and I am saying that a lot of that or even most of it is socialization. A -year-old girl and a -year-old boy are not gender aware..In my groups i hear so often how their little boys play with their sisters dolls. But the parents say they would never buy that little doll for their sons. Why?
When it comes to gender roles I am not saying that girls are disadvantaged . I am saying the boys are much more limited. Girls are not discouraged from doing boy things but boys are discouraged from doing girl things therefore putting boys in a smaller box with fewer limitations ..going back a generation, girls were assigned roles and limited opportunities..Every so often at one of my speeches a male teacher will come up to me and tell me how he is viewed with suspicion if he wants to work with little children. Men aren’t supposed to like little children.
The knitting is a very good example. And obviously you’re missing the point by saying that most girls don’t ask for a knitting kits. The point is THEY CAN! How about ballet lessons? And you keep saying that most parents wouldn’t encourage the children to do what like no matter what the gender and I am telling you that you are wrong.
Boys are different and more aggressive.....sure, but they’re aggression is encouraged not they’re softer side. Why?
Another interesting thing is that a friend of mine is a chef on the show “chopped”.He told me that he hears from parents all the time thanking him for opening the role of cooking for boys and men..An example is toy stoves used to have pictures of girls on the box and now they have added boys.

 

Of course there are differences between men and women but to deny that socialization has a role is denying reality. Here’s one that one of my students pointed out… There is a difference between a mama’s boy and a daddy’s girl.

 

Go on I'm listening, what are the differences?

 

Gender would exists even without socialisation, but without gender there would be nothing to socialise the children into. There might be a few things that are entirely the result of socialisation such as clothing and hairstyles (which can easily be proven to be the case through cross-cultural comparison), however most of what we see as gender stereotypical behaviours and preferences have their roots in biology.

My main problem with social constructivism is that it only looks at the "constructive" side of things and fail to understand - and often even ignores - the "social" side of it; The "construction" happens within our "social interaction" with reality.

You should throw the whys at the parents in question. Haven't you asked them why? What is their response?

Boys are in a smaller box but still somehow, magically, stand with fewer limitations? How does that even happen?

Typos aside, I think what you are describing above is just a matter of subjective perceptions - To you it appears as if boys have fewer options and that boys "cannot do girl things", but the truth of the matter is that boys are not limited by anything but nature and it is not that they "can't" do "girl things", it is that they do not want to.

This is true and rather sad. A man working with smaler children is indeed viewed with great suspicion and I assume your explanation to it is that it is a form of "misogyny" and "sexism against women" despite it being a case of the opposite.

Most boys would not want ballet lessons. Girls are way more graceful, pretty and artistically minded than boys and therefore more likely be drawn to such dignified sophistries. Boys are more brute and ape-ish and are thus more likely to ask to attend lessons where he is allowed to use his muscles, primitivism and get dirty.

Girls are human. Boys are apes.

Boys are not girls. Female teachers, mothers of daughters and Feminists often fail to understand this. Boys do have a softer side, but they do not express it in the same way as do girls and expecting a boy to behave like a girl is very bad for the boy.

I know! Isn't the market just fantastic?

Market economy: 1 - Feminism: 0.

 

Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina ..I think

 

So you can't name the differences between a mama's boy, a boy, a daddy's girl and a girl?

Are you aware that socialization is more rampant today than ever before?

 

If you're in a football game and one player doesn't get up afterward the whole game comes to a halt. I think you're assuming the same thing wouldn't have happened with boys. OK, the injured one might not be screaming and crying but if someone is injured in most any sport, play stops.

 

Are we on /b now?, and a daddy's girl is perversely pornographic

 

From this. Not my quote as there's no such thing.