Dirty details of the fraud that was 911

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  1. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Many intricate details on varying aspects of the 911 hoax for the honest reader to assess and comment on. So many irregularities, and so many outright lies, I don't see how ANYONE can believe the "official" BS story. How this stuff doesn't rattle the masses is beyond me. 911 was a total black operation, perpetrated by the government on its own citizens. Look and speak up, or, trust me, it WILL happen again. Will you believe it next time too?


    http://www.truthin7minutes.com/september-11-hoax-the-truth-about-the-911-hoax
     
  2. Jango

    Jango New Member

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    Seriously, how hard is it to type: 9/11, 9-11 or September 11th?

    911 is the emergency number U.S. citizens call for police, paramedics or firefighters.
     
  3. Hannibal

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    The link in the OP connects to a site that claims no planes and no victims at the WTC.

    Is this what the thread creator believes? If not, why link to it?
     
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    cjnewson88 Well-Known Member

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    That's what Fraud believes...
     
  5. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

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    Yes, he's come flat out and said it before, but then later claimed that his account was 'hacked'. I wonder what the excuse will be this time?
     
  6. plague311

    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    It did happen again genius. Are you familiar with the Boston bombings? It wasn't the gubmint though, it was terrorists who hate our way of life. Given all the facts I can't understand how someone can continue to believe that the government was behind it.
     
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    Because the "official" BS story is full of holes. Simple research can verify it quite easily. I can't believe you accept it all at face value. You appear to be somewhat intelligent.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Damn near 12 years now and you STILL haven't adequately shown any of these 'holes' with any success.

    Given that,OURS isn't the BS story here

    Anyone want to guess whose is?
     
  9. Hannibal

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    The lack of comment about the link is the OP is very telling. I guess we can assume that the thread creator supports the site he linked to.
     
  10. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    12 years and the shills are still working too. Anyone want to guess why?
     
  11. Hannibal

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    Because you're being paid? Just a guess. Alex Jones' pockets are deep.

    Even though you keep ducking, Ill ask again: why did you link to a 'no planes, no victims' site in your OP? Don't be a coward, answer the question.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Excuses,all truthers have are excuses
     
  13. RtWngaFraud

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    I'll entertain responding to you in a sincere fashion when you show me your sincere effort telling the truth concerning your denial of certain "airport related" untruths, given by a certain ringleader...okay boss?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Right on cue.
     
  14. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Stealing lines now,Fraud?
     
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    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    The link in the OP is full of long debunked nonsense and blatant lies. But the mental illness that drives truthers is a serious one and I think dangerous one. We must make sure that we battle them with facts.
     
  16. Hannibal

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    You've created an excuse for whenever you get caught without evidence, and want to dodge a question. What a cowardly position.

    Keep running, boy.
     
  17. plague311

    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    I definitely agree in regards to the "battling them with facts." No matter what, truthers shouldn't be allowed to spread their lies without someone presenting a rational, intelligent POV on the issue. However, I don't really think truthers are "dangerous", per say. Most of them are just gullible, and extremely anti-government. They generally don't have the ambition to even put together a reasonable argument, let alone cause physical, real world damage.

    I just can't imagine being afraid of any truther.
     
  18. Karma Mechanic

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    my fear is that they will further erode a large number of people's faith in government of any kind. Just as birthers do.

    We know government has been involved in horrible things, we can list them and that is factual. We go from that to the government being involved in everything negative that happens. People feel government has no authority. If we believe they are building FEMA Death camps then why should we follow the law, why shouldn't we strike first. We have had people saying we are living in Nazi Germany level oppression, and they have a following. If I was living in Germany in 1935 I would have tried to take down the government.

    Truthers are part of an ever widening group of people who live with a fantasy of a hyper-competent governmental hidden force that can execute a President and Civil Rights leader in public, in front of witnesses and blame a patsy. Can orchestrate the collapse of segments of the economy. Create thunder storms, hurricanes, and earthquakes. Fake the 9-11, Boston bombing, Sandy Hook, Batman shooting and many other tragedies without anyone speaking about it. Some even think the moon landing was faked.

    While fringe, fringes can be woven into a rope to garrote someone.
     
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    Anyone who believes that 9/11 can be explained in 7 minutes is a liar, stupid, or mentally ill. Thanks for playing.
     
  20. plague311

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    People that are prone to believe the government is behind everything will eventually seek information that confirms their belief. It's confirmation bias at it's best. Granted, some of the woo spitters have gained a bit of a following, I don't think it's growing by a vast amount. I think, in general, people think birthers are morons.

    The people that state we're in Nazi Germany level of oppression generally are too afraid to actually do anything. The internet is great as it gives anonymous posters an avenue to express their ideas without any consequences. In real life, these people are weak, and afraid. That's why you don't run into them in real life. I think I know of maybe 2 people in real life that think 9/11 was an inside job. Like I said, truthers\birthers\et al are cowards. The only place they speak their voice is on internet forums. There are no protests, requests to politicians or movement at all. That's why the truth movement is dead, and has been for years.

    I think you are slightly mistaken in regards to the "ever widening" aspect of the movement. I post on a few message boards. My focuses are mostly 9/11, sports, and I got into the NSA debate for a bit. If we use this board, and the JREF boards as our data points, I can honestly say that the truth movement hasn't widened at all. In fact, there is less and less traffic with every passing day. I think this 9/11 forum even went a few days without a single post in it at all. None of these movements are "gaining speed", they puttering out, and their time is almost done. Outside of a few die hards, the truth movement is over.
     
  21. Hannibal

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    Hey, 'Fraud - why did you link to a 'no planes, no victims' site in your OP? Do you believe that there were no planes and no one died on 9/11, as your link propagates?
     
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    We're talking here about symptoms, not the disease.

    The cause for all these delusions are feelings of inadequacy. It's a feeling of powerlessness that motivates conspiracy theorists to find some other explanation for events. Rather than deal with those feelings, they externalize them. They blame others for their feelings. It's the ubiquitous "THEM" at the root of all their disappointments, not specifically the government, not even specifically a person or group of people. It's a shadowy and faceless god villain that is everywhere and nowhere.

    The important thing about a conspiracy theory in the theorists mind is validation of the feelings, not a quest for truth, or answers.

    This is why theorists are so willing to subscribe to contradictory theories. For example, Bush is both an insignificant moron, and a masterful deceiver. They can't both be true, but that doesn't matter to the theorist. All that matters is that a moron Bush validates them in certain circumstances, and a brilliant Bush validates them in other circumstances.

    They'll argue that the government invented terrorists that never existed, that the government trained the terrorists, that the government intelligence agencies had actionable advanced warning that the terrorists were planning attacks, that the terrorist were terrible pilots, that the terrorists are still alive to this day, and that the buildings were blown up by firefighters for private insurance money. These contradictory ideas don't just blame "government." They blame civilians, and businesses, and lizards from outer space, and anyone else that can validate the theorist's feelings.

    Hannibal keeps asking if RWF actually believes the content he linked to. The answer is not exactly forthcoming. I'll bet RWF didn't even read it. It wouldn't be the first time.

    All that matters is the validation.
     
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    Crack that whip boss..
     
  24. Hannibal

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    Insults are what you have instead of evidence, boy.

    Hey, 'Fraud - why did you link to a 'no planes, no victims' site in your OP? Do you believe that there were no planes and no one died on 9/11, as your link propagates?
     
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    I think because of this:

    Terrorism is more than merely blowing up a building or two or three, it's also about mind-(*)(*)(*)(*)ing the public as well. Granted, I'm not the expert on this, neither do I want to be, but I do see a pattern. I don't think that is a chance coincidence that 9/11 and 911 thing, somebody wanted to make sure that people's memory is affected. Similar things about the bombings at the Boston Marathon, pressure cookers in bean-town on tax-day, it's devilish. I think as long as Americans keep the 911 emergency call system in place there will always be the so-called truthers wanting to get to the bottom of things, it's impossible to forget.
     

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