Dirty details of the fraud that was 911

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  1. Brother Jonathan

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    Like I said. I do not know this is fact. The claim has been made:
     
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    I'm curious: why would you make the statement if you did not know it for a fact? The following amounts I found with a quick search.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20010504105320/http://www.ardemgaz.com/prev/Clinton/A1dstarr2.html
    http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/about/faq.htm#q5
    A bit better than double the cost.
     
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    we all know what caused the collapses.

    its called GRAVITY
     
  6. Brother Jonathan

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    What I should have said is the government spent four times as much ($62 million) in four years investigating the Clinton administration as they spent on the 9/11 commission.

    Counsels Have Spent $62 Million Investigating Administration
    The larger point is that the initial law only authorized $3 million to investigate the events surrounding 9/11. That is what Lee Hamilton was talking about when he said they didn't have enough money. How were they supposed to conduct a proper investigation with that allotment? Later they got more and Hamilton admits that but certainly the investigation got off to a slow start.
     
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    Gravity did not cause the collapse. The building components that oppose gravity in order for a building to stand are called vertical columns. In order for a collapse, such as Building 7, the vertical columns holding the building up have to give way all at the same time. Fire can not do that. Buildings are designed to stand while on fire so that firemen can confidently go into a burning building to save people. Something else caused that collapse and one can hear the explosions that cut the vertical columns which caused the collapse in this video. The building collapses right after the explosions. Watch.

    [video=youtube;ERhoNYj9_fg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ERhoNYj9_fg#![/video]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ERhoNYj9_fg#!
     
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    If you are going to broaden the scope of the Clinton investigations budget, then you need to do the same with the 9/11 investigations. That would include the NIST, FBI PENTTBOMB, the 2002 Joint inquiry, ASCE inquiry, FEMA inquiry and so on.

    PENTTBOMB alone was the most massive FBI investigation in history, with agents logging nearly 4 Million man hours between Spetember 2001 and June 2002.

    http://www.justice.gov/oig/reports/FBI/a0337/chap7.htm#51
     
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    Again, gravity does not cause collapse. If gravity caused collapse then why would anyone ever go into any building. Controlled demolition collapses are planned events which cut core vertical columns. In the video above, the explosions heard just before the collapse cut the columns and caused the collapse.

    [video=youtube;73qK4j32iuo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73qK4j32iuo[/video]
     
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    What the heck do you think brings the building down after the supports are cut?
     
  11. Brother Jonathan

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    Gravity. But gravity is not the cause of the collapse. The cause of the collapse is cutting the core columns.
     
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    wrong.

    no core columns were cut in WTC 1 and 2.

    - - - Updated - - -

    FALSE

    WTC 1 and 2 collapsed due to physical damage, fire, weakened steel, and gravity.
     
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    buildings are not designed to stand forever after large planes filled with fuel, crash into them.
     
  14. Brother Jonathan

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    Yes they were. The WTC Towers were indeed designed to stay standing if hit by a 707 jetliner.
     
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    and they did stay standing after being hit.

    they did not collapse upon impact.

    .....but after an hour of fires weakening the steel....things started to fall.

    you do know that fire can weaken steel, yes?
     
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    Hot fire can weaken or even melt steel. However, black smoke indicates a relatively cool fire. The jet fuel would have burned up quickly after impact and typical office fires would be ignited. Again a rather cool fire.

    See the black smoke. Relatively cool fire. Then watch the second plane impact the tower and the red hot fireball. That is the fuel from the plane. It quickly burns the jet fuel and then sets office fires which are relatively cool fires which causes black smoke.

    [video=youtube;1lKZqqSI9-s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lKZqqSI9-s[/video]
     
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    black smokes means a cool fire, when you're burning wood.

    not when you're burning carpet, paper, computers, jet fuel, chemicals, wires, walls, and other office materials.
     
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    Geeze,no one claimed gravity alone caused the collapse....use your brain!

    the cause of the collapse was the WTC towers damaging the structure when they collapsed,as well as fires assisted by gravity...
     
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    black smoke from an office fire means cool fire?

    BS.

    there is no evidence to support such a silly idea.
     
  20. Brother Jonathan

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    That is the official conspiracy theory. I don't buy it and neither do 1000s of professional building experts from around the world.

    [video=youtube;X-V1CiuGMJo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-V1CiuGMJo&feature=relmfu[/video]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-V1CiuGMJo&feature=relmfu
     
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    You're WRONG,that is NOT the official account.....NO ONE has said gravity alone caused the collapse.

    Stop being absurd.

    And I doubt the number is much over a hundred,let alone 'thousands'
     
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    more evidence that CTists only have lies.

    No one has ever stated that gravity ALONE brought down WTC 1, 2, and 7.
     
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    This is my opinion, but I don't think 9-11 was an inside job.
     

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