Disturbing developments all over the place / in 11 days, Biden/Harris will be inaugurated

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  1. Independent4ever

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    I quit facebook & Twitter years ago - would not care in the least if they went away.
    Doesn't change the fact that Trump's never ending lies inciting a riot; regardless if that was his intention
     
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    Democrats have been trying to split up big tech for years

    Democrats call for Congress to rein in, break up Big Tech

    House Democrats push Congress to break up Big Tech monopolies
     
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    “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” Donald J. Trump, January 6th, 2021.
     
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    stop - he created the rally; he created the anger based on lies. minions like Lin Wood, Guliani, & Mo Brown were encouraging violent action

    If he does not spend 2 months lying about election fraud; try to get Pence to violate the constitution and demand loyalty from Republican Congresspeople/Senators by pressuring them to try to help him with his coup attempt, there is no rally
     
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    Stop? Yeah, sure.


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    ...and it is Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff and Nadler who staged a coup.
     
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    Show me any proof that democratic leaders demanded the opposition be silenced.
     
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    So your defense is that Republicans and Democrats are equally bad?

    Interesting
     
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    LOL. If you want to sick the feds on them to break up the company into smaller pieces more power to you. That's a way to solve this that I could stand with because it does not alter the rights of the constituent parts to make policy, but remember that sweet old grandfather figure named Ronald Reagan, he undercut the law and cut the budget of the federal Anti-trust divisions of the Justice dept to the cheers of republicans/conservatives and what he did not sabotage, Bush and Clinton did. What was a crime, was now all about delivering services efficiently. The only real ideological comrades in arms you have now, that even use words like 'antitrust' or oligopoly' or monopoly in the halls of the Capital these days are Rep Porter and Senators Sanders and Warren!
     
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    The only one of those quotes that even comes close to encouraging violence is the first. Protests are not riots and protesters are not insurrectionists. Predictions are not recommendations or endorsements, and being obnoxious and rude to someone in a restaurant is not to be compared with fomenting a seditious attack on federal property.

    Here is Pelosi's position on the BLM protest movement as quoted in September of 2020. 'Pelosi said a Republican member had asked her, “Where are you when you’re talking about violence, this or that?” She responded: “We’re there. We support peaceful demonstrations. We participate in them. They are part of the essence of our democracy. That does not include looting, starting fires, or rioting. They should be prosecuted. That is lawlessness.”https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...protests-the-essence-of-democracy/ar-BB199ERB Notice that it has full sentences, that there is no fake fire in the background for propaganda effect, and the context is supplied as well as the place and the time.

    A little different from what you provided. You provided a false and misleading picture of what she believed. That's the kind of crap that got us in this mess.
     
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    Yes. I've often noted that the DINO/RINO oligarchs are one party. I've been a 3rd party voter for over 12 years.
     
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    Replace it.
     
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    ok - I can respect that
     
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    ....and the non-RINO outsiders in the Senate like Ted Cruz, and Tea Party-inspired House Freedom Caucus in the House.

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    https://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=4586


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    https://www.wired.com/story/republicans-serious-big-tech-antitrust-armstrong-buck/


    Also, when it appeared that Warren was more popular with Democrat voters in the primaries and might beaten Biden, the DNC nominee who The Party would force upon the public, they had their corporate and social media arms snuff Warren by not giving her campaign much free media time and negative coverage when they did mention her. That's how that works. The State is only going to give us corrupt State corporate-politico swamp options. There is no profit to politicians or corporations if we let small businesses compete.

    As long as the DNC/GOP and corporate/media have sway over choosing for us the nominees who "win" the party nomination, like Biden, the corporate-politico corruption continues and the wealth gap widens at great expense to the average American.
     
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    Trump said nothing to encourage violence either. Even when Trump Tweeted a video condemning all who took part in trespassing and destruction, Twitter deleted the message of condemnation. All his actual quotes were about peaceful protests, just the same as Democrat leaders. You can't say that there was no knowledge on the left that wherever BLM protests, Antifa riots, attacks police, and destroys property. So if Trump is guilty of the outcome that his calls for a peaceful protest caused a small percentage of rioters, then Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Ayanna Pressley (and other Dems) are equally guilty of inciting insurrection and sedition.

    There were two notable times in 2020 when the partisan left- and right-wing public united in thought. The first time was broad agreement about the need for police reform after the death of George Floyd. The second time is now, with mutual condemnation of rioting and property destruction by apparent anarchists (Antifa and whichever groups or individuals were the criminals last week).

    This would be a good time for leaders and media to lean in to rare political agreements and foster those moment of unity, rather than use these events to gaslight and use negative propaganda to "tell us that we disagree" (when we don't, in fact, disagree) and drive the wedge further. Seems like a strategy to maintain corporate-political control, power, and profit. Most of the real division in this country is creatively invented and narrated by media and political propaganda.
     
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    ...and that isn't an attack from the next president on corporations (and tens of millions of decent-paying jobs)? Plus, Biden actually intends to act with legislation. Trump just "said harsh words" to influence CEO's to do what he wanted, but his criticism of specific corporations had no real teeth.
     
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    Perhaps you see an official policy to take energy in a new direction as a direct attack - I don't.
     
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    Politics is getting a bit "messy" with a populist 3rd party (Socialists) attacking the DINO/RINO Party from the left, and a populist 3rd party (Nationalists) attacking the DINO/RINO Party from the right. Everyone figured out that The State Establishment and Corporate Media won't allow a winner from an independent campaign run, so the "ends" have started infiltrating the "middle" by running against them under their own Party umbrella(s).
     
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    Off topic, but energy has been moving toward renewables very quickly without a government taxation scheme to muck things up and steal more money from the citizenry at the gas pumps and on our electricity bills. With government "green deals", the "green" just means more of our green money going to their pockets. Makes the rich richer and creates more peasants.
     
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    Getting banned from Twitter or Facebook is NO DIFFERENT than getting banned from this forum. You click on "I Agree" to the TOS and you either abide by it or get your ass booted off. It's a very simple equation.
     
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    Be an advocate for corporate monopoly power if you wish. Make Jack Dorsey unelected King of the world and we have a totalitarian billionaire technocrat in charge of which political opinions people are allowed to have.

    This forum does not have a near monopoly of little league internet forums. There is a difference. If you were banned here and there was no alternate political forum available, then what?

    But there are dozens of small political forums to choose from. Banning free speech is dangerous, if not outright bullying, because it doesn't stop people from having opinions, and often makes opinions more extreme and unbending.

    Jack just destroyed a big chunk of his business, but Apple/Google/Amazon monopolies are blocking the Parler alternative from their app stores unless Parler agrees to censor and silence opposite opinions the same way Twitter is doing. That leaves GAB, which owns its own servers and can't be taken down. Twitter is backing people into a corner, and they are going to run to the only place they can speak freely. Speaking in a thought-bubble without a diversity of ideas and opinions is not a good thing.
     
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    free speech has nothing to do with it. you don't have a right to say anything you want on a privately owned internet platform. They have a right to limit their content in any way they wish. It's called capitalism and righties used to love it, until it worked against them.
     
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