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Do we Canadians owe America an apology for 1750 - 1783?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by DennisTate, Sep 17, 2017.

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Do Canadians and Brits owe America an apology for our ignorance in 1750 -1783?

  1. No.... Canada did not even exist until 1867.

    8 vote(s)
    16.0%

  2. Yes..... if we had been more well informed we would have supported USA independence.

    7 vote(s)
    14.0%

  3. No..... America should still be a part of the British Empire.

    3 vote(s)
    6.0%

  4. No.... we are not responsible for what our ancestors do.

    32 vote(s)
    64.0%
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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I personally would not trade my own dad, Robert Tate, not even for my
    boyhood idol Evangelist Garner Ted Armstrong, but, it is obvious that I
    have been striving all my life to become more well informed than dad was and
    I sure try to treat my wife better than he treated mom.

    Dad deserves a lot of credit though for being a massive improvement over his
    own father.......... who was really messed up.

    I really like the family and friends that I grew up with. I would not trade them but
    .... I have to admit that some of the things that I heard about my grandfather George Tate
    ..... well....... if I could somehow apologize to my grandmother, Nellie (MacDonald) Tate.... then
    it would be nice to be able to do that..........

    I feel that I learned a lot about certain ways of thinking that I want to try my best to avoid in
    this life from both dad as well as his father. Perhaps my grandmother Nellie Tate would be
    somewhat more forgiving toward her husband to know that his rather bad example has resulted
    in some of their grandchildren learning important lessons from both of them.........

    I think it is normal as a Canadian to be ashamed of how my ancestors behaved toward
    other races and other ethnic groups. We can certainly be ashamed of how the M. S. St. Louis was
    turned away from Halifax, Nova Scotia after being turned away from Miami and previously from Cuba.

    I think it is kind of normal to wish to apologize, at least in some way, for these events of the past.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...modern-world-problems.458440/#post-1066296044
    CanSo Dollars... could finance a Unified Theory of Modern World Problems?!
     
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    You owe us a bigger apology for Celine Dion
     
    Deckel, Sep 19, 2017
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    Dennis,
    Take a look at us now, after the passage of the Federal Reserve Banking Act of 19 and 14, which was a complete betrayal of the founding principles and sentiments of these United States of [North] America.
     
    AlifQadr, Sep 19, 2017
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    I love reading sovereign citizen posts.
     
    JakeStarkey, Sep 19, 2017
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    I am Quebecois, with a sizeable native ancestry. Canada existed since the early 1600s, under the French regime, and that Canada fell in 1763 with the Paris Treaty.

    Thus, I feel no obligation or regret whatsoever towards American patriots who fought their war of independance mere years after the Conquest (as we still call it).

    However, if my ancestrors knew what would happen afterwards - the Metis crisis and Louis Riel - we might have fought for the Yanks in 1812, and with our (considerable) efforts, maybe we could have got them victory as well.
     
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    The Canadians at that time might wish they had a second chance to do it right but I'm not a believer in the sons being responsible for the sins of their fathers. You don't owe us a thing. You've been a good neighbor and you have my thanks.
     
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    YES!     Most definitely and indisputably, YES!


    One might at least expect the Frenchies there to have supported any war against the Brits.
     
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    Not when the RC religion was given protection. That freaked out the Patriots, particularly in New England.
     
    JakeStarkey, Sep 19, 2017
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    I appreciate your penitence Dennis. Now I want some compensation!! (just kidding) My greatX5 grandfather was General John Stark. He was the hero of Bennington, was also in the French and Indian War, and served at Bunker Hill. He refused to submit to the Continental Army but operated as a volunteer. Though George Washington respected him and desired his service, he would pass him over for promotion because Stark was of Scottish heritage. Stark coined the phrase "Live Free or Die".
     
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    :flagus: such as it was could have offered a deal in Maryland. A RC colony.
     
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    No, it could not.
     
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    Wasn't in your ancestors interests to be involved in 1776?

    Vive Acadia liberte
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    Too few know of Louis Riel.
    LouisRiel-1.jpg LouisRiel.jpg

    Lawfully murdered by the central :flagcanada: authorities.

    And remember those HBC land deeds denied recognition.

    etc.
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    I still don't think you owe us an apology for anything your ancestors. I will never apologize for anything my ancestors might have done in the past because I did not do it. I never owned slaves and I never killed any Indians or stole any land.
     
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    Yes it could. :lol:
     
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    Yuh think the dynamics may have changed in 109 years, you all.

    And, Moi621, you are still wrong.
     
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    . . . but if you defend those who did . . .
     
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    I apologize that my great-great-great grandpa stole the horse of your great-great-great grandpa.
     
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    Dear DennisTate DEAR :blowkiss:

    Before I challenge your link, tell me truly, will I be able to read it?
    You have known of my reading skills for some time.
    And, synopsis please.
    Lucky for Moi I went to the Medical School that invented Synopsis texts.
    The Lange series. Is that divine intervention or what? Coincidence :lol:
     
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    Some Canuckleheads still consider Benedict Arnold to be a hero! They are worse than Republicans.
     
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    I have long since forgiven you Canadians your transgressions. However if you are feeling guilt, some reparations might help us both out. The address is 234 Alm Ave, Lebanon, Oregon and you should make the Check payable to Btthegreat R. Smith.
     
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    If it really bothers you I'll accept a check.
     
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    I do not defend those who did, it was just the sign of the times. I do not believe we have any responsibility for their actions. If there are any people living now who have been slaves in America then maybe America owes them something. Or if there are any living people who owned slaves then they might owe something but the rest of us owe no one for slavery.
     
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    Arnold led a failed attack on (French regime) Canada before he committed what he is now known for in the US.
     
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