Do We Have To Pay Our Dues To The Jews?

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Abolishing loans is your dramatized exaggeration, I am saying get rid of the infinitely increasing inflation. You are robbed of value of your money starting 1 nanosecond second after you earned it.
     
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    Sounds like the perfect dystopia that you would create!

    If a job cannot pay enough to survive on that business should not exist. Others should not make up the living wage by taxation. But alas this is the business model of Walmart .A parasite on tax payers.
     
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    Never had but one CC. When I saw the apr I cut it in half and refused to get another one. The only personal debt I ever had was when I bought my home .
     
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    The crash of 08 was because of criminals in the financial sector and Obama would not prosecute them .

    So the banks loan out money on homes to people they once would not loan to due to the fact they would default They then discounted these loans and sold them off where they would be bundled junk loans sold as a top rated investment. A con job. Then an instrument called credit default swap where anyone but generally rich folks could bet on the bundles failing and lots of money was made by a few .

    Proper regulations would have nipped this in the bud but regulations are bad! Even when they stop greedy criminals!
     
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    Inflation isn't ever increasing.

    Our government works to keep inflation under good control. It's not some sort of plot - it's a natural part of capitalism.
     
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    I agree, but do NOT try to make this a partian isue.

    Republicans not only didn't want prosecution, thy didn't want to pass regulations that would slow that kind of predatory behavior.

    I'm all in favor of reigning in banks more than they are today.
     
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    You have to be very selective as to who gets to borrow money and who doesn't get to borrow money.

    The only important criteria is the probability of paying the money back.

    The people who have high probability of paying it back get the loan.

    The people who have low probability of paying it back don't get the loan.

    Black, white, alphabet don't mean shet.

    Do they have the ability to pay it back, and do they have the track record that says they have the character and will to pay it back?
     
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    Walmart is a damn good place to start out for people that do not have high skills. Great company for those who want to lift themselves up by their own bootstraps.
     
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    Inflation and interest are two entirely different things. And you can charge interest on gold just as you can for currency. And gold is effected by inflation as well. And plenty of people, including myself, have paid off their debts. And it is not true that the money in your pocket "devalues . . . constantly." I'm not sure if there's a single thing about this post that is correct.
     
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    It wages have to be subsidized by me and every other taxpayer.

    The locally owned businesses that Walmart put out of business paid living wages and taxpayers did not have to subsidize them!

    Yeah the largest employer of Americans is so great ! In an upside down universe . Where working people are exploited unlike the businesses Walmart replaced.

    Simple greed trumping our people. It is the worst form of capitalism. No one but the rich should find it acceptable . And yet because of neoliberal ideological beliefs even the working people who are stupid will buy into it.

    I lived under a different form of capitalism before max profit at any cost replaced sane capitalism that benefited the max number of people . Back when work had more value overall and you didnt have to be in the professional class to prosper for work had more value.
     
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    Jesus threw the moneychangers out because they were making excessive profits. There had to be money changers as the money used in the Temple was Temple money not that used outside.
     
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    When loans may be comoditized and sold on the stock market the necessity for there to be a high probability of repayment goes WAY down for the company that actually makes the individual loan. Once sold, they don't have to care about jrepayment anymore.

    Today, a high percentage of loans do get sold.

    One result is that those who are not savvy about money, budgets, possibililty of downturns, etc., (such as is our federal government, by the way) can get in real trouble, as loan officers and real estate agents are paid for making the deal, not for ensuring sound financial advice.

    It didn't used to be that way. When I bought my first house, the loan offier had skin in the game. They owned the loan until repayment. The result was that they gave the transaction the full workover - job, my budget, my financial situation, the evaluation and inspection of the property, etc.

    That doesn't happen anymore. The individual is expected to be able to do that for themselves, in the face of a loan officer and real estate agent motivated by the sale and accountable for nothing after that.

    And, there is no question that many are simply not prepared for that - including for the change that the loan officer is no longer a finanial adviser as once was the case.
     
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    For the po' average guy or po' average gal who don't have a job, don't have money, and who needs some prospects to get a foothold on life Walmart is a good horse to ride. And if they have ability they can always switch horses in the middle of the stream, taking their experience and resume stepping stones with them, that is, if they want to take the risk of bettering themselves. If they instead just sit on their ass gaining no experience they got nothing.

    Because a job is a job is a job, and for the po' a job is the most important thing in the world, bar none.
     
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    What kind of bread is it?
     
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    Entry level Walmart employees are still sucking more taxes than they are paying. You can't propose that as a solution by just saying they then have some sort of upward mobility.

    We noticed that in 2016 when white guys with careers lost their jobs only to find that their skills just weren't needed anywhere. And, those were good paying jobs! Where was the "upward mobility" there?

    People need to be far more prepared than to simply have a job. They need to be thinking about what they will be doing when their job no longer even exists. They need to be thinking about a career, not a job.
     
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    They got kicked out of the temple because they were using religion as a money making scheme.

    It didn't have to do with usery.

    And, you're attemts to pitch borrowing as a Jewish assault tactic is not acceptable.
     
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    If you born poor trash, and not suave & handsome nor stacked & leggy, you gotta start somewhere. You determine if you're moving upward, or not.
     
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    If you have brains and are willing to use them, college is by far the best choice.

    Those with 4 year degrees average a million dollars more during their working career.

    And, that's a lot of taxes, too - well worth our investment to help!!
     
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    That rhymed!
     
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    How do you get rid of something that doesn't exist?
     
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    citation?
    citation?

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    From the American Institute for Economic Research, data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    :popcorn:
     
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    false, they only accepted specific currency for offerings, that is not religion.
    the jews hijacked and defiled the temple to use as a commodities exchange, they exchanged money and charged exorbitant prices for the transaction which is also classified as usury, today its unjust enrichment.
    It is an attack, its a rip off. Our whole monetary system is designed to keep the money in only a few hands as possible, that being zionists, and most zionists are jews, rothschild comes to mind, its their system, Hitler arrested rothschild for monetary atrocities commited against Germany.
    Everyone who tried to break the iron grip this monopoly has on the world, Hitler, Lincoln, Kennedy are all DEAD, the latter by assassination, I cant imagine who could possibly have been the catalyst for that, certainly not zionists!

    .....and what they dont steal through ridiculous interest, the gub sweeps up as taxes.

    Its the american dream!


     
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    Your chart is based on the Wholesale Price Index, which measures the prices of wholesale goods traded between corporations. Pretty sure the US doesn't even measure this anymore. Anyway, this doesn't actually tell you much about your own purchasing power or the purchasing power of people in the US over time. Inflation tends to be accompanied by increases in wages and salaries, for example. Even if each of your individual dollars would buy less wheat or sand than it would have in 1800, you have much more of those dollars than you would have had in 1800 and your overall ability to purchase sand or wheat is much, much higher than it would have been in 1800.

    Hint: increasing prices mean that the price of labor also increases. Let that sink in.

    Your standard of living is much, much higher than it would have been in 1800. You have access to better technology, goods, and services. This is thanks, in part, to the fact that we realized it was a dumb idea to artificially constrain our economic growth by basing in solely on the gold supply.
     
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    Not to spoil the whole Hitler worship again, but if the whole monetary system is designed to keep the money in hands of a few, then you don't really need to panic. Stomp your feet and scream about the Gnomes of Zurich all you want, but if that is what they are trying to do, they are doing a really bad job at it. On the whole, median personal income and median household income continue to climb, even after adjusting for inflation.
     
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    That is partially true, the increase in wages do not increase in step with inflation and retirees on fixed income rarely if ever get inflation raises.
     

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