Do you agree with the Derek Chauvin verdict or not?

The problem is key evidence was dismissed by the jury and the prosecution would not allow testimony in. And where did this "kill first ask questions later" occur here? They gave Floyd every chance to submit to the arrest and be taken to HQ to be processed. FLOYD was the reason violence ensued as he resisted arrest.

 

Which was their right, IF they did, which ,of course, YOU have no way of knowing....so glad the murdering slime was convicted

 

No "empathy" for Chavin, Te... he acted like an oblivious moron, and yes, he surely committed Manslaughter.

Very few of us would disagree that Chauvin SHOULD have simply thrown Floyd in the back of the patrol car and then had his counterfeiting, criminal ass driven down to the police station for booking!

But "murder"...? Truly -- that's mob-rule INSANITY.

 

I know from the 2 jurors who have spoken out minds were made up and they did not deliberate the evidence. There was no Henry Fonda in the jury room. It was their DUTY to review the evidence and test it. The one who was in the room said it should have only take 20 minutes. The alternate said the teenage girl convinced her because it made her so upset it must be murder.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Which was their right, IF they did, which ,of course, YOU have no way of knowing....so glad the murdering slime was convicted

The Jury, part of the legal system whether you agree with them or not

 

Chauvin KNEW exactly what he was DOING at that time which made it 2nd degree MURDER, Cy.

Manslaughter would have been ACCIDENTALLY killing Floyd in the process of arresting him.

But CHOKING him for almost 10 minutes is COLD BLOODED murder.

The EVIDENCE that Chauvin KNEW what he was doing was his REFUSAL of the advice of the other officers on the scene.

Once Floyd was SUBDUED there was NO FURTHER NEED for CHOKING him.

Chauvin CONTINUED long after Floyd has passed out.

That is DELIBERATE cold blooded MURDER in broad daylight.

If there hadn't been any videos Chauvin would still be a MURDERER on the beat TODAY.

Is that the kind of KILLER that YOU want to have PROWLING our streets, Cy?

 

That's nonsense, why on earth would Chauvin want to murder Floyd? Floyd killed himself through his drug abuse.

 

Who TF knows why Chauvin was a SICK murderer?

We have the VIDEO EVIDENCE that he MURDERED Floyd.

Floyd was MURDERED by Chauvin according to the EVIDENCE that CONVINCED the jury BEYOND any reasonable doubt.

 

Supposedly, paramedics were to arrive much sooner than they actually did. And, supposedly, it was because Chauvin was 'pinning' Floyd down to wait for medical-rescue technicians that he didn't just continue with the earlier effort to load Floyd in the back of the police patrol vehicle and transport him to the police station for booking.

I don't 'buy' all of that, frankly -- Chauvin was not (NOT) a doctor or a qualified paramedic -- although I know that police officers and firemen are required to take extensive, repeated courses in life-saving techniques. Thus, Chauvin was, indeed, guilty of causing Floyd's death through negligence, stupidity, and 'medical malfeasance', which, as I've understood it, calls for a conviction of manslaughter.

But "murder" is an overt, deliberate act, whether in the '2nd-degree' or worse. The prosecution failed to provide one logical reason WHY Chauvin would have even wanted to "murder" Floyd in the first place, thus, the malice directly involved in committing a "murder" is absent. They proved manslaughter, yes -- but came nowhere near proving murder! To Chauvin, Floyd was just another 'perp' who needed to be apprehended and arrested... a fairly routine operation for any cop in a large metropolitan area.

Conclusion: the jury, the court, and the City of Minneapolis, took the 'easy way out' -- and did what was necessary to prevent a repeat of 2020's multi-million dollar damage in riots, wreckage, arson, and looting by making "murder" out of "manslaughter", and sweetening the deal by giving Floyd's family $27,000,000 a few days before the verdicts were handed out!

Afterthought: if you were a cop and you planned a "cold-blooded" murder of someone, wouldn't you find a better way to do it than to kill that person on a public street, in a neighborhood where everyone hates your guts anyway, right out in the open where anybody with a smartphone can document you doing it...?

 

That is FIRST degree murder, Cy!

Chauvin is GUILTY of 2nd degree murder because he DELIBERATELY ignored ALL training protocols AND the ADVICE of the other OFFICERS at the scene which demonstrates his INTENT to MURDER.

His own Police Chief stated UNDER OATH that Chauvin VIOLATED the PROTOCOLS of the department.

MOTIVE is IRRELEVANT when INTENT can be PROVED and intent was proven BEYOND any reasonable doubt.

 

Maybe I'll just try to find a point of agreement with you and say that -- all other factors notwithstanding -- Chauvin is going to be in prison for quite a long time, and, that is justice!

Chauvin's life is now utterly destroyed, and whether through an astounding degree of negligence, or, as you suggest, 'cold-blooded', murderous intent, he will live a 'life' not unlike that of bacteria in a Petri dish. Essentially the same thing will happen to former police officer, Kim Potter (the cop who confused her taser with her pistol).

We can only hope that from these incidents, lessons are thoroughly learned, all the way around, by every police officer in the United States....

 

Because he didn't, he was just an ordinary police officer conducting an ordinary arrest of a drug addict who had the million to one chance of picking the one who died whilst resisting arrest (as the video evidence shows).

*******n the cowardice of the jury who bowed to mob rule.

 

I think the jury should have picked one charge and found him guilty of that. Having three decisions for a single action makes no sense to me. What he did was acceptable in terms of policy and training. However, he did it for too long and therein is the crime. No doubt he was guilty of homicide in one form or another.

 

It's not about their right it is about their DUTY and now we know one of them lied on the jury questionnaire and wore BLM propaganda to a "justice" rally where Floyds family was speaking and knee to the neck tee shirt.

 

They were "convinced" before the trial started it appears. And there was an abundance of doubt, the prosecutions own witnesses could not agree on the cause of death.

 

What you believe and what is fact is never the same..

 

Thank you for this thought provoking reply because I wasn't sure what to think of the whole thing????