Do you perceive Social Conservative Politicians as Genuine or Frauds?

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Do you perceive Social Conservative Politicians as Genuine or Frauds?

  1. I perceive Social Conservative Politicians as Frauds.

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  2. I perceive Social Conservative Politicians as Genuine.

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  1. A random man

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    Do you perceive Social Conservative Politicians as Genuine or Frauds?


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  2. Sallyally

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    They are like the curate's egg. Good (genuine conservative)in parts
     
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    There are genuine social conservative politicians, and frauds, just like in any other group of people.
     
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    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    These "social conservatives" are sincere -- BUT -- we live in an increasingly anti-religious, secular society. By continually pushing and shoving on issues like abortion, these conservatives are only painting bulls-eyes on their backs and on the backs of all other varieties of conservatives, too. Personally, I think that hyperliberal, Leftist females should have all the abortions their little hearts desire! I don't even mind if the government pays for these abortions -- and -- as far as I'm concerned, the female can sell the fetus' "parts" to anyone she wishes.

    Bottom line: in the vast majority of these cases with pregnant liberal Democrats, the rest of us must pay to either: 1. abort or 2. support, the offspring and the mother, on welfare, for years and years and years -- usually for generation after generation, too….
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    "I'll just go ahead and have it! Why should I give up welfare-for-life...?"
     
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    All politicians are frauds.
     
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  6. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Well this sort of illustrates the stupid crap that gets spewed from some posters here. I've worked with the MODEL in this photograph in the past - she has a nursing degree and Bachelors degree and a husband who is a doctor - but some ass-hat has to post a denigrating comment about her just because of the color of her skin.

    And then these same ass-hats are going to scream about not being racists ...
     
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  7. Pollycy

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    Now I know why my post had the picture removed, which removal, of course, completely obviated the message I was trying to convey -- that a lot of lib females want their abortions, their welfare, or both. Fine! Actually, I had originally sought to find a "White Trash" model instead, but, not being a racist (!) :cynic:, I just took the first image I came across that had the requisite number of pixels. It made no difference to me whether the model had a Ph. D in Everything, could glow in the dark, walk on water, or perform other amazing feats.... Oh, and you're a professional photographer? Wow... I'm a CIA psychiatrist who speaks 12 languages and who has mastered the basics of levitation. What an erudite group we are here in this Forum.... 8)

    If you bothered to READ my post, you know that a lot of Conservatives like me hope that lib women DO have abortions! We're even perfectly willing for the damned government to pay for it! Not all of us are going to throw Bibles at them and beg them not to have abortions. It's better that they just abort their fetuses and reduce their own presence in the gene pool going forward.

    But, I have been "drawing fire" lately... and that's good! That means that I'm starting to annoy the hyperliberal Left more than usual, and I'm ALWAYS happy to find opportunities to do exactly that! If the truth hurts so damn much, then I encourage all hyperlibs to suffer....:deadhorse:

    [​IMG]. Here... does this pass the 'political correctness' test...? :sleepy:
     
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  8. Daniel Light

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    You got caught making an ass-hat post using a photo of an intelligent and nice person to make a sh*tty point. You can stomp your feet and whine and try pretend you did it without thought and malice ... but that is pure BS.

    If you're going to make racist posts - at least have the balls to admit it, not pretend it was the first photo you found. You know that if you Google, "pregnant women," that image doesn't make the page - BUT, if you Google, "pregnant black women," it comes up in the first few images ... so take your indignation and shove it.
     
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    So first racism against blacks and now Asians?

    Sorry but this fails the political correctness test, you must now be locked up for hate speech and pay more in taxes to help those whos feelings were harmed by your posts. Oh and as a bonus the government is going to pass the hospital bill for the first lady to you, but because the 2nd isn't real you must put a VR headset on and go into the game world to beg for forgiveness to the poor 2D person you have degraded in such a manner.

    And as a good reeducated liberal you must post a picture of a southern uneducated white trash lady to ensure that the reprograming has worked.

    As for the OP though, I think most of the true Social Conservative's have decided it's best to not use government to force there values down peoples throats. I do think that many that run for office on Conservative social issues tend to be fake or frauds mostly because they know that realistically they can't get a bill passed on those issues.
     
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    And here we have our Professional Photographer -- judge, jury, and executioner. Oh, and he's omniscient, too -- can read your mind, and find you guilty of 'thought-crime' with one deft movement of his self-righteous imagination. He knows the stolidity coefficient of your "balls", and he can even use telepathy to tell you what you have Googled! Quite a guy! But, so touchy! Suggestion: if you're so obsessed by what people like me might do with one of your precious images, don't upload them to website image databases! BTW, if you google "pregnant women", you'll find women of all races, colors, etc.

    And, like every other hyperlib I've ever met, he can make a flat pronouncement that a post is "racist", while completely overlooking the point (THE POINT) of the post, that not all Conservatives are "Social Conservatives". One more time, just to try to reassert the important message here (while actually being on-topic) -- some of us on the Right think it's just splendid for lib-females (OF ALL COLORS) to get abortions, and to do so at public expense!

    So, to all Leftist females who abhor the prospect of being treated like a "brood mare" -- abort the fetus, sell the body parts to the highest bidder, go get knocked-up again, and repeat the process! Be a cash-cow instead of a brood mare! :hippie: And do it all without one whine of protest from my faction of the Right Wing, because we'd rather give these lib females an endless series of free abortions than to have them polluting the gene pool with any more of their kind and draining the country's economy by plying the system to get welfare-for-life!

    BTW, since you're intent to harp on it, guess which minority group makes up 13.8% of the U. S. population, but draws ~34% of the handout welfare.... :eekeyes: .
     
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    Just a pathetic rationalization of your bigotry. Nothing more. Not impressed.
     
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    There are plenty of genuine social conservatives. None of them are depicted in OP. OP is full of neocons, RINOs, Christian Dominionists, Wall Street whores.
     
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    Oh, Danny boy, please forgive me if I did or said anything to make you think I was trying to "impress" you! :roflol: Nothing could be farther from my mind, I assure you!

    Meanwhile, back on topic... got anything to say about "Social Conservatives", or do you just want to snipe and bellyache about "racist" blah-blah...? Yeah, I thought not. :nana:

    [​IMG]. "Racists! Racists! Everywhere -- RACISTS!" :psychoitc:
     
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    They're genuine, but I totally disagree with them.
     
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    I disagree that they're genuine.



    SOME are, yes. However the religious right knows it lost the culture war long ago to the internet, TV, Movies, Music, everything basically. America is already a secular nation in a lot of ways and the political and economic class already knows this and has for some time. What is occurring truly is the religious right, via Trump and others, is trying to create a "Second America" where the minority yet vocal fanatic white Christian supra social conservatives operate a fiscally and legally "separate" country from the "First America", the real one by claiming they are moderates under siege when really they are small communities well outside normal middle white America which is largely secular and rarely attends church.

    They've been trying to achieve this for decades. They are still very far away from this goal as it is basically impossible, the country is too modern even in these small social conservative areas for this to truly work. However the Christian smalltown zealots have created massive economic mafia-esq networks that cannot survive or function in the normal, secular, larger America, so that is why their hand is forced. Their Christian university graduates cannot land jobs with their degree's in the secular world so they have to create a "Second America for Christian Nutjobs" or they will continue to evaporate into the greater secular America and they deeply know this.
     
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  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    It can be argued that social conservatism is inherently fraudulent, or at best very hypocritical. Any particularly devout Christian is going to run right up against conservatism's inherently uncharitable attitude toward people. OTOH a secular person is going to have a hard time justifying the fact that he doesn't really care about, or even believe in, other's souls with his wanting to enforce all sorts of socially conservative morals laws onto everyone. There are people who do it while maintaining some sort of self-respect but the mental gymnastics are world-class at the least and would be entertaining to watch if they weren't expecting people to actually believe them. OTOH if anyone can carry that off it's conservatives, these are, after all, people who demand overweening power over others in the name of freedom. Madness, or the Republican platform, take your pick
     
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    But what if they take over the Internet? Korea shows that can be done. What if the Second America's religious nutjoberry should become the only thing allowed? Won't they be able then to force everyone to believe or die? And isn't that what totalitarianism is all about?
     
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    Interesting and thoughtful summary. There's much there I'd never thought of in quite that way. Discomforting too--but no more so than the political reality I wake up to every day. Trump's America reflects what I regard as the worst of our culture; white supremacy, fundamentalist Christian intolerance, rampant unsubstantiated anti-government propaganda, mindless blame toward immigrants for every conceivable wrong, and a strong surge of judgementalism coupled with a total lack of compassion toward other humans, including our fellow Americans. It's like a compilation of every wrong strung throughout our history, suddenly compiled and displayed in one single instance of time for all to see and feel and experience as real. It is incompatible with the America of human rights I had personally come to believe in. It's like an America from a dark and somber parallel reality that represents none of the high-minded ideals America was founded on.
     
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    Those are not examples of "social conservatives". Explain what you think a "social conservative" is and then your question can be answered.
     
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    Trolls (for the most part).

    That said, Conservative politicians are much like police:

    A few good apples exist among the rot.
     
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    Every single on of those I posted ran on some form of social conservatism.
     
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    I am not worried about all that. They aren't winning. Understand that very carefully. Trump is not a social conservative. He's not really religious. He's a NYC secular guy who's had hundreds of women. Trump is using social conservatives as best he can and they are using him as best they can. It's a show of how desperate the Christian right is. They aren't so much winning as much as trying now to carve out a "Second America" from the first in which they control and cannot be regulated like they are now. That's what they really want, "Christian Nutjob Zones" where the law does not really apply or it applies however the local pastor says it applies. That's their aim. They know they have lost the rest of the country decades ago.
     
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    I agree, except I think they want to make the whole country a CN Zone, and Trump is a megalomaniac who is using them to make the USA a totalitarian country which would fit right in with what they want.

    You should make no mistake that the US very easily COULD be made into a totally unfree country. Fer Crissake's we used to have literally millions of our people living in actual SLAVERY and this was during just that time when we were supposedly the "shining example" of freedom and the most subversive nation that existed to all the European royalties.

    There's a very good TV show on about this right now but it's on Netflix so you probably can't get it, but it may come on YouTube soon. Called "The Handmaid's Tale" I think
     
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    And what did Bill O'Reilly "run" on?
     
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    That you think Bill O'Reilly is a politician tells me that you really don't know much about what you're talking about.
     

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