Do you support reparations for blacks?

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Do you support reparations for blacks?

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  1. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A simple question, and why?
     
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    No.

    - at this point it would be too difficult to still find blacks who were promised reparations.
    - we can't give them their 40 acres and a mule...that would be ridiculous.
    - the pandering would cause race relations to sink to even lower lows then what we are currently seeing.
    - it won't help black people. 70 percent of lottery winners end up in debt or broke after a few years.
     
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    Not only is it asking people who had nothing to do with enslavement to pay people who weren't enslaved, it carries forward on the 'son paying for the father's sins'. The country would also have to consider the other nationalities that were treated abominably, the Native Americans, the Asians, and others. So, those of us with mixed heritages would be paying for ourselves, while the government takes some of it in administration fees.

    How about everyone treat each other with respect regardless of skin color and stop making it all about pigmentation or 'nationality'.
     
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    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    Our forefathers and this nation were born into a world steeped in slavery. Then they fought a civil war to end it. Over six hundred thousand Americans died in that struggle, with the benefit of freedom going to blacks. We have paid in blood to end a practice that began in the middle east and Africa thousands of years ago. We owe nothing. And these people clearly have no appreciation for anything.
     
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    You failed to capitalize the B in Black. Please report to the nearest reeducation center for processing.
     
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    I say no but do so with the assumption you are talking about a one and done checks. The effects of racism are cumulative so even if we were able to say give every black person $100K once, for most that money will be wasted and they will be no better off a year or two from now. I prefer more targeted holistic approaches like scholarships, etc.
     
  7. conservaliberal

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    Slavery completely ended in this country 158 years ago! There is absolutely no good reason why Blacks should think that they are owed any "reparations" by anybody alive in the United States today. These idiots in California must be completely out of their minds!

    Next question, should any White people be paid "reparations" when they can show that they were hurt by preference given for no good reason to Blacks due to Affirmative Action? And guess what, Affirmative Action is still allowed in this country to this very day!
     
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  8. Nonnie

    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In each of the thirteen original states and later in every state, Black slave owners trading Blacks could be found. Native Indians had Black slaves. Plus the census of 1830 lists 3,775 free Negroes who owned a total of 12,760 slaves.

    Also, slavery hasn't ended anywhere because there are more modern day slaves today compared to past slavery in the world, but less per capita because of population increase.
     
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    And then their kids would want $100k too
     
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    Nobody has ever convinced me that reparations solves anything, resolves anything, and may be far more divisive than not. I have not read a positive case made that was convincing.
     
  11. Curious Always

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    We just need to focus on education. It cures most criminal behavior, among other issues.
     
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    No, when an educated person develops a criminal mindset, then that person is usually an even bigger problem than an ignorant criminal. Ignorant criminals commit crimes like armed robbery at convenience stores, but educated criminals stage well-planned burglaries or they develop plans to embezzle lots of money are frequently get away with it too.
     
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    Let me think about it....

    How about no?

    Yes, education is key.
     
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    You're right, and it is also true all the way up to an international level too. Historians agree that probably the major factor leading to the start of World War II was the huge reparations and other punitive measures taken against Germany by the French and British after defeating it in World War I.

    There would be justification to paying Blacks huge sums of money in a situation where they had been slaves prior to the end of the practice in 1865. But all of those former slaves have been dead and gone for a very long time. Paying reparations would be nothing more than an obvious bribe to get Blacks to behave like any other American citizen, which would mean that everybody would be treated equally without any favoritism of any kind. Throw a squirrel a peanut and he'll come back and want more, and there will soon be a crowd of squirrels all flocking to get in on all the free peanuts.
     
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    It is a stupid idea. It is race hustling at it's most crass. It is probably unconstitutional. And it is a cruel joke on blacks buying into this nonsense.
     
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  16. Curious Always

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    That's a head scratcher right there. Being against providing education to children is just..... odd. It's wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to start. I've never actually met someone who was against education. You should move to Haiti. You'd love it there. No education whatsoever. It's literally the most uneducated people on the planet.
     
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    Give a person a fish, they eat for a meal, teach a person to fish, they eat for a lifetime.

    Build the black community culture back up. Since the USA systems tore them down.
     
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    Exactly, build their culture back up.
    Since USA took their culture away.
     
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    what culture? the ones in Africa that other Africans destroyed to sell black Africans into slavery? the only black culture in the New world was mainly one of servitude
     
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    They are Americans and thus should participate in American culture like everyone else who succeeds here.
     
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    As slaves, it was a little bit difficult.
    With Jim Crowe laws, that didn't help. In fact, it likely hurt success near as much as slavery.
    Redlining also took away investment money into houses and business operations.

    The list is quite long for those that want to know history.
     
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    I don't know what I said to make you think that I'm against education.

    I merely pointed out that ignorant criminals typically commit stupid, unimaginative crimes, and therefore most of them get caught unless they're really lucky. The educated criminals, however, are crafty, shrewd, and they tend to really think things through. They typically commit more rewarding crimes with greater payout, and they tend to be caught less often. Now, how would moving to Haiti make either of those observations less valid? :roll:
     
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    If you aren't against education, then why the long caveat when I suggested we educate people. It's the single most important factor in reducing crime.
     
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    There are no living Blacks who were slaves. Therefore, no one is entitled to reparations. Since all slaveholders are dead, you come to the same conclusion.

    If we pay reparations to this generation of Blacks, will the next generation of Blacks also be entitled to reparations? Probably. If so, that is an admission that the Blacks are losers who can’t make on their own.

    What Blacks do deserve is school choice so that they can get the kids out of under performing schools. That is where Blacks deserve subsidies.
     
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    You keep people weak and dependent by telling them they have no ability to take advantage of what America offers be cause of long past history.
     
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