Do you support reparations for blacks?

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Do you support reparations for blacks?

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Right..so we have another euro American that knows better than the Malian government.

    Did someone mention eurocentric?
     
  2. conservaliberal

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    My dear Esau, if you never believe another word I say, please believe this: I could not possibly care less about Mali. And if Mali wants to jump "in bed" with Russia, that's fine with me!

    Reparations for ANYBODY in the U. S. are a different thing altogether, and as long as there continues to be no justification for reparations I'll be staunchly opposed to them.
     
  3. Esau

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    Grate! As long we have established that you don't know what's better for the Malian ppl more so than the Malian government, then we're all good and you have relinquished a eurocentric bias on this issue. Good for you!
     
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    In a spirit of good feeling, I'm agreeing with you and "liking" your post, even though to tell the truth, I still have no idea what you really mean by "eurocentric". Never mind! Mali for the Mali people, and may they live in peace and happiness! Here in the States, let Hell freeze over before we ever start paying out fraudulently-inspired "guilt money" to anybody for no good reason. See ya later. :razz:
     
  5. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    If you’re asking why so many are Democrats, that’s an easy one.

    They’ve not been invited to the Republican party. The GOP invites the white nationalists and other racists with conspiracy theories without denouncing them and tried to cripple the black vote.

    The Democrats have invited them in and given them power in the party. There are 56 black members of Congress. Republicans have 2. The party has denounced racism and heard their concerns of which the GOP has fought against.

    Are there any MAGA followers who are a welfare socialist, wokeflake, progressive or gun banners?
     
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  6. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So you think children going hungry and in need of medical care should beg on the street? Yeah, that's Christ like. You are delusional if you think one on one charity would work...it never has.
     
  7. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    that's not accurate. The democrats seduced them with handouts and effectively bamboozled them into ignoring the fact that the Klan and slavery were both Democrat party creations .
     
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    I don't know, but I have never met any
     
  9. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It never has because people like you say "let someone else do it!" I know a very successful contractor in his mid 60's. He and his wife will go to the store, buy a ham, some cheese. loaves of bread and boxes of sandwich bags. They spend a day making sandwiches, then another day taking them to the inner city and handing them out to the homeless. They just don't hand them out....they look each person in the eye and offer them hope. You are delusional if you think your government giving reflects the Love of Christ. Jesus didn't tell Caesar to feed the poor. The Apostles and Disciples gave of their own free will. Many still do. Jesus said the poor would always be with us but we can at least give them hope. You derive satisfaction by letting the nanny state redistribute your money. That is not Christian Love or Charity. That is money confiscated from you at the point of a gun if necessary.
     
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    I read an interesting study years ago. it found that conservatives give more money to charities than similar situated liberals. And it wasn't just religious charities, but secular ones as well. Even more interesting is that rich liberals tend to give lots of money to THINK TANKS and advocacy groups that advocate forced redistribution of wealth (ie Socialism or communism) rather than actually doing anything for the poor
     
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    I support reparations for every living slave.
    I don't support someone getting money for work they didn't do just because they have a distant relative that wasn't paid.
     
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    I think ancestors of slaves should look to those who first enslaved their ancestors. ie other blacks in Africa
     
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    Reading through the tags is rather entertaining
     
  14. Esau

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    I have to admit, it's rather concerning that you've never come across the word eurocentric before. Either you're village is entirely benevolent or they're all in living inside an echo chamber.
     
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    I think you should be more concerned about your own history rather than another's. Point fingers and there are twice as many pointing back.

    But that's just me, I like to take agency with my own government rather than look to blame someone else's, that's just the way I was raised, to not be a finger pointer and be a man rather than a mouse and understand that my own elected government is the perpetrators and it's my fault for voting them in.
     
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  16. Imnotreallyhere

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    No, I don't think reparations should be a thing.

    Firstly, there are no ex-slaves alive now. We cannot repair the damage that was done to them. We can only give money to people who were not directly injured. This is at best symbolic. In the same vein, there is no one alive who owned slaves legally. We can only take money from people who are innocent of the injury done. Again, largely symbolic.

    Second, 6 of my great grandparents immigrated after the Civil War. The other pair, living in the North, never owned any slaves.

    And finally, wouldn't we also owe Liberia's citizens some cash as well? How is that going to be regulated? There's a whole can of worms here and it only gets more tangled.
     
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    White Jewish europeans who were not alive during Holocaust receive reparations, from Germany.

    Nobody is asking you for money, yet. What should be proposed is taking money off corporations that profited from slavery.

    Liberia? What are you talking about?

    Can't you see race relations are an open can of worms spilling everywhere and refusal to acknowledge the corporate involvement in slavery makes matters worse.
     
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    The fact that someone else is doing something I don't agree with is not evidence that I should do a similar thing. My mother asked me whether I'd jump off a cliff if my friends did. Essentially what you're saying I should do here.

    They're talking about having the US government pay. Last time I looked, I paid taxes, so it would seem reparations would take money from my pocket.
    Here's a bit of economic theory for you: corporations don't pay taxes really. Taxes are part of the overhead for doing business and are therefore factored into the price of whatever goods or services the business provides. ALL taxes are paid by the people. Some are collected by the government directly (e.g. income and property taxes) and some are collected by the corporations, like sales tax and your reparation proposal.

    Liberia was founded by ex-slaves from the US. Do you really think we can acknowledge one debt without doing the same for another?

    Most of us understand that you don't clean a mess by making it bigger. Reparations will only add to a mess that is already more than big enough.
     
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    Perhaps America could learn alot from Germany in that regard, or maybe the faces aren't white enough to receive a payment or maybe there aren't enough black faces working in the banking sector to agree with such. My mother asked me if I would be a criminal, because the government are criminals, I said no, it's bad.
     
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    Liberia? What?

    Failure to address this issue will result in relationships getting worse.

    Corporations will pay, flat earth is also a discussion. Do you agree?
     
  21. Esau

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    My mother asked me if I would help ppl because Jesus did, I said no I'm not copying him, I'm going to be like Herod instead.
     
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    my own history was both sides of my family served the Union
     
  23. Esau

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    Slavers.
     
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    prove it
     
  25. Esau

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    The north made as much profit as the south through slavery.
     

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