Do YOU Trust 2022 House & Senate Election?

It makes sense that the SC taking up Roe vs Wade was a matter of deliberate timing to mitigate "the red wave".

It doesn't matter that it was the correct ruling, it was done to rile up the skulls of mush and give the Democrats a spark.

Abortion is a state issue. Personally, while I am pro-life, I don't see myself as having the right to tell someone else what to do with their body - no matter how F'd up it is; and, I side with pro life in believing a baby is a life. I'm with Ron Paul on this issue.

I wish the hypocrites on the left would adopt the "freedom" stance they have for abortion to all of the other ways they love to micromanage our lives.

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Trump running in '24 is the perfect scenario for the left as well. They'll sweep Congress and the WH in '24 - regardless of how absurd the candidates are. Hard to get much more absurd than Biden and Harris though.

From there they'll be able to drive the final nails in our coffin.

Can't speak to the timing of things in the next 8 years, as things are very fluid in these final days of our republic; but, we are close enough to the edge now, that a strong enough wind will blow us over.

My guess is we'll see a major "terrorist" event on American soil soon, certainly before 2030. It also makes sense that they'll cause another economic panic - perhaps in tandem with another "virus".

I expect the endgame to be a wild ride.

 

I resonate somewhat with the tone of your post, but one thing evades me -- this sabotage involving "Roe v Wade" was instigated and carried out by the CONSERVATIVES on the SCOTUS... not the radical, Leftist Justices! This whole misbegotten thing was the product of Justice Samuel Alito -- a Conservative, and, a Republican! And the other Conservatives on the SCOTUS stupidly went along with it!

And, no, it was not inconceivable that a man with Alito's orientation would try to undermine "Roe v Wade" -- BUT WHY IN HELL DID HE PICK 2022 AS THE YEAR TO DO IT?!

Many Conservatives have retorted that "Roe" was rather badly-flawed -- and even the 'high priestess' of liberal Justices, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, expressed that belief, too! But the fact remains, nevertheless, that "Roe" was SETTLED LAW, and it had been since 1973! I can't think of Alito's disastrous 'brain-fart' as anything but unbelievably STOOPID on a scale seldom seen anywhere in the long history of American jurisprudence.

But, if you believe that what the SCOTUS did this year was part of some kind of 'conspiracy' instead, I'd love to know more about it. I would not necessarily doubt it. Indeed, I haven't really trusted the SCOTUS ever since Chief Justice Roberts unilaterally REWROTE Obamacare to be a "tax" instead of the "mandate" that Congress passed and Obama signed. That was unconstitutional as hell, and Roberts knew it... but he did it anyway.

 

I like Alito and Thomas, but I don't think they are intune politically. I don't think politics or social stability factors much for them.

Roberts and the other crazies on the court though are another story.

It's likely Alito looked at it as an opportunity to right a wrong, with no other consideration.

The machinations that saw the case come in front of the court at all, after all these years, is what is suspicious. And given my understanding of how the Machiavellian sausage is made, it is highly likely the case coming before the court was done deliberately to energize the low level activists on the left.

All the world's a stage.

 

Partisan hacks in both parties claimed the 2016 and 2020 presidential elections were stolen. They were both wrong.

 

There are too many elected officials who know that whether or not they can stay out of jail depends on the results of this election so......
just as in 2020 they are highly motivated to do whatever they possibly can do to steal this election as well......

 

And what is so ironic, is that Trump wanted to place Supreme Court judges who would support rolling back abortion rights. They did exactly what Trump wanted them to do, and it helped cost Republicans the midterms.

 

No, actually the Supreme Court decision turned the issue back to the states. In California and New York, that decision means nothing because nothing is going to change. It's in the more conservative states where the battle lines will form.

 

The problem is not tabulation. Counting ballots is not rocket science. The problem is knowing how many fraudulent ballots were counted.

 

Did republicans take away a womans right to say no or cross her legs? I haven't seen that anywhere.

 

many on the right want to force rape victims to have their rapists babies, do you support them being able to choose? yes or no?

 

What percentage of abortions are the result of actual rape? If you can abort a living human being anytime it is in the womb of the mother why can't one just abort a person outside of the womb? When is it not a living human being? Who has the right to play God and determine when a living entity may live or not live? Abortion in itself is a pretty brutal act. Personally, I believe rape victims are entitled to medical treatment and the morning after concoction that doctors can prescribe. I also believe that if a pregnancy that is a danger to the mother that could result in death should be considered for abortion as an option. I'm not a big fan of abortion for rape victims who wait a month or two to report a rape after they find out their pregnant.

 

Yes. A child has no voice.

 

It's irrelevant.

This is a violation of our Freedom of Religion/Freedom FROM religion.

Comparatively, book bans: A parent has every right to decide what their kid can and can't read but they should not be able to decide what is available for my kid to access with my permission.

Access to safe abortion: A person has every right to decide if they will get an abortion (or pay for an abortion) but they should not be able to decide what my female loved ones have access to regarding their private healthcare decisions.

Since this is based on Christianity, it discriminates against all non-Christians and non-theists.

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And, it's rather sexist to say the onus of pregnancy prevention solely lies with the female. It's hypocritical since you all give a pass on men having affairs and hiring or promoting women that provide special favors.

A female can only have ONE pregnancy every nine months.
A man can impregnant countless women every day, all day and sire a lot of babies.
Why are women's reproductive rights being legislated?

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Last year, someone posted about how great men in the US are toward females as compared to how Afghani women are treated in their country. Since leaving Afghanistan, the Taliban has reversed its promise to not interrupt female's education.

Using little girls as breeders will almost always interrupt her education and dump her straight into generational poverty. The only difference is burkhas aren't yet required attire in the US.

This also begs the question about the complaints about LGBTQ and drag queens being pedophiles and groomers.

Expecting a kid to become a parent of her own kids at 10, 11 + years old is statutory rape in most states.

So, pedophilia is cool when the abuser is heterosexual. Mandated pedophilia. Got it.

 

1 is one too many, we should never force any rape victims to have their rapists babies

 

But that's not what it's really all about is it? If there was a law that only rape victims and woman who were in danger of losing their lives due to pregnancy were allowed to have an abortion would that be satisfactory? You really don't need to answer. My biggest problem with almost every leftist position is not that it matters that is what you or they believe but you want the rest of us to accept those believes. That goes for the lifestyles of the LBGT crowd. I could care less how they live their life, but they should not expect me to accept it, like it or condone it and not express those feelings. I think it is totally stupid for Universities like Stanford who have devoted 18 months to change the lexicon of words because they might offend someone. Changing Grandfather to Legacy? Give me a break.

 

And why TF should anyone be forced to abide by YOUR beliefs ? Why should anyone accept what YOU believe??
Righties want to FORCE their belief that abortion is naughty/bad on everyone else...splain that ..

 

do you support abortion for rape victims?

 

What's the difference if one exterminates a life during any day of pregnancy or any day after pregnancy? Why are womans rights above the life of the human child or the rights of the father? Does the existence of human life not have any meaning? If the human child is diagnosed a female and you decide to have an abortion are you not depriving that child her right to choose? Some argue that the child has no say in the matter because they cannot speak. That is one damn good reason to be anti - abortion. There are millions of people who cannot speak, hear or have some other infirmary in life. Should we be like the Nazi's and exterminate them?

Life is not just a game. It's very much real. I was born to a mother who shipped me off to live with her very poor relatives in Appalachia. There were many days of hunger but today I am overweight. There was never enough money to buy nice clothes or shoes and ones I did have were held together with tape. Today I have many choices of shoes to wear. In my pre-teen years, I lived in neighborhoods where I was the minority and violence became a way of life. Today I live in a fairly safe neighborhood. As a teenager I became a run-away and a teenage alcoholic and drug user. I hated most people, places and things. When old enough I joined the Navy, had three wives and five kids who I treated abusively, not sexually but verbally and physically. Pretty much as the way my whole family treated people. I spent many of my 20's and 30's in and out of jails. So, why am I telling you all this? If my mother had aborted me I wouldn't have had to put up with this worldly crap; right? It was the best things that could have happened to me.

At 41 I found a couple programs, Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous, and for the last 40 years I have been able to use my experience and tribulations to help others to recover from their addictions. I have been able to repair my relations with my children, I have a wife who had 4 children and who I just celebrated 37 years of marriage with. Her children all call me pop and treat me as if I was their real dad. I was able to work until I was 79. I have a lot of medical issues today, but I am able to face them with an attitude of acceptance instead of an attitude of self-pity. I'm still active in A.A. and have a lot of people who love me. In conclusion, if my mother had denied me, my right to life, there very well be, me and many others, who never would have found the merits of "live and let live." The opportunity to "love one another". The opportunity to serve those less fortunate.

For every child we abort we deny ourselves, the father, other siblings, the grandparents and future other humans the opportunity to meet and enter our lives. Seems like a pretty selfish act to me.

 

There are many good people walking around this earth who are the product of rape. Maybe it would be more useful to ask them if they are comfortable with their mothers decision to let them live. I believe Jesse Jackson was a product of a raped mother and he has done many good deeds for his race. Rape shows us "man's inhumanity to man". It is not only an inhuman act but gets compounded by the inhumanity of many to hold the victim as responsible or in shame also. Which is the greater inhuman act, the rape or the abortion of the human after the rape? If I support abortion, for any reason, am I not getting a little blood on my hands? The essence of our lives is too pro-create and establish life and to love one another. It is not for us to determine who lives and who dies.

 

yes, and I have not met a single person born from rape that supports rape just because without rape they would not exist

many on the right want to force women and little girls to have their rapists babies, that is wrong

"My biggest problem with almost every leftist position is not that it matters that is what you or they believe but you want the rest of us to accept those believes."

nope, I am pro-choice.... you decide for yourself, not for others

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
And why TF should anyone be forced to abide by YOUR beliefs ? Why should anyone accept what YOU believe??
Righties want to FORCE their belief that abortion is naughty/bad on everyone else...splain that ..

I see you don't know what birth entails.

There is a huge difference in a fetus inside of, and part of, the woman it's in and a born baby.

When it's born it becomes detached, no longer part of the woman and a person in it's own right.....but that is at BIRTH.

If by "human child" you are referring to a fetus ( which is NOT a child) it doesn't have rights because it isn't born and YOU want it to have MORE rights than the woman it's in and everyone else....the right to sustain it's life by using another's body..

What ? HE isn't pregnant and making a woman pregnant does NOT mean she is your property to do with as you choose.

How silly....a fetus cannot think or "choose"....and YOU seem quite happy with taking away BORN women's right to choose....you seem quite picky about who you want rights for.

I haven't seen that...

But they are born and have rights.

LOL, here come the Nazis....so you lose any argument if that's the best you can do.

Person anecdotes and life stories (everyone has one) don't mean a thing to me and have no point here.

SHOW ME the LAW that says women must provide others with kids...SHOW ME !!!!!
WHERE is this obligation you think exists??

SO ??


Humans have survived being "selfish" and it isn't a sin or immoral or against the law.

People who want and have children seem pretty selfish...they do what THEY want and do NOT consult those kids as to whether they want to be born or not....how selfish!!!!

It is selfish to want everyone to adhere to your personal beliefs

FoxHastings said: ↑
And why TF should anyone be forced to abide by YOUR beliefs ? Why should anyone accept what YOU believe??
Righties want to FORCE their belief that abortion is naughty/bad on everyone else...splain that ..

 

The RAPE...and it's inhuman to think any other way.....Maybe you don't know what rape entails or care that it happens to women ???

No, it's not murder....and why do you want raped women to receive more punishment than the "man" who raped her ???

If you believe women are no more than broodstock that's your perogitive but don't try to force that crap on others.

LOL, humans have done that since humans began

 

Our laws are based on individuals. You're not an individual until you're born. That's why you're not counted in the census or given a social security number, among many many other formal and informal ways that society accepts that fact.

You may want to open your eyes. Human beings play God all the time. Constantly. If they weren't in the abortion debate, it would be the exception, not the norm.

 

FreshAir said: ↑
many on the right want to force rape victims to have their rapists babies, do you support them being able to choose? yes or no?

Dodged the question

 

I heard a story yesterday about how the Nevada Senate race went down. The election officials mailed ballots to all of the registered voters in Clark County, which where Los Vegas and most of the voters are located. Some houses received multiple ballots. The Democrats sent out canvassers to collect ballots door to door. This continued for most of week after Election Day.

This ballot harvesting operation eventually flipped the election which was very close. This political machine was the creation of the late Senator, Harry Reid.

Here Florida, you have to apply to get a ballot to vote by mail. It’s not sent to you just because you are a registered voter. You also have to sign the envelope on the reverse. Therefore there is accountability.

I guess elections now depend upon who is best at cheating. Also people are voting as early as August before the race has had a chance to develop. That’s what happened in Pennsylvania. People didn’t know how unqualified Fetterman is.