Documents Reveal Counterterrorism Tactics Used at Standing Rock to "Defeat Pipeline Insurgencies"

Real journalism here. This is what happens in a plutocracy when the Police work at the behest of big business. From Occupy Wall Street to DAPL protests. This is a mentality of the kind ruling many U.S. client states, like Honduras, Egypt, Bahrain, and elsewhere. Why aren't the mainstream media and its establishment allies being critical of Trump on this? Answer:

Jordan Chariton SHREDS Corporate News Tool With Facts About DAPL

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Why don't we see Democratic party loyalists protesting Trump for this? Answer: The power of propaganda:

Brendan Nyhan on Twitter: "New YouGov poll: 59% of Democrats say Russia altered vote count"

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So what's the logical response to this?

Democrats step up calls that Russian hack was act of war | TheHill

Cheney: Russian election interference could be 'act of war' | TheHill

 

A plutocracy moving towards fascism?

 

Jimmy Dore is a stand-up comedian.

Here are some real facts..

"The Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL) is the safest and most environmentally sensitive way to transport crude oil from domestic wells to American consumers. It is the result of an extensive process that involved review and approval by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and regulators in North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, and Illinois. It will be among the safest, most technologically advanced pipelines in the world."

"This $3.8 billion project crosses almost entirely private land, often already in use for other utility easements. The Dakota Access Pipeline does not cross the Standing Rock Sioux reservation, even at the portion of the pipeline that is the subject of dispute at Lake Oahe. In developing the route, the United States Army Corps of Engineers alone held 389 meetings with 55 tribes regarding the Dakota Access project. In addition, the U.S. Army Corps reached out to the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe nearly a dozen times to discuss archaeological and other surveys conducted before finalizing the Dakota Access route."

"Notably, Lake Oahe already contains eight other pipelines uneventfully operating adjacent to the path of the Dakota Access Pipeline, as well as one high-voltage electric transmission line. DAPL crosses at least 95 feet below the bottom of Lake Oahe, and at points, up to 115 feet below."

"May 2, 2017 Editor, The Dakota Access Pipeline protesters are finally gone. Calling themselves “water protectors,” they contaminated a thousand acres of pristine grassland (also a sensitive wildlife habitat) and left behind mountains of trash, human waste and hazardous fuels. An early thaw turned their campsite into a muddy cesspool. Included in the […]"


https://daplpipelinefacts.com/

 

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B.S. built on B.S.

 

Right..

So who is Energy Transer?

Those are some "real facts" from "a U.S. Fortune 500 natural gas and propane company."

Meanwhile: Two More Spills for Dakota Access Pipeline - EcoWatch

 

You didn't address the FACTS in my post especially the one where it was found that the protestors did more damage to the ecosystem than anything the pipeline has done. Wanna bet if pipeline supporters did that you'd be down on them like stink on sh*t?

 

Because I don't need to. Again, your "facts" are from Energy Transer, the "U.S. Fortune 500 natural gas and propane company" that owns the pipeline. Still no comprende?

 

No...You CAN'T address my facts otherwise you would not have to stoop to attacking the messenger. BTW YOUR 'facts' are from some looney ecowatch group. More FACTS for the factless....

• "The pipeline is not near any sacred tribal lands.
• The pipeline is not on Native American property.
• The pipeline doesn’t threaten the Standing Rock Sioux water supply or their new water treatment facility.
• The pipeline’s Missouri River crossing will pass safely more than 90 feet underneath the river, and unless gravity fails, there is no threat to the river.
• The pipeline company tried many, many times to meet with the Standing Rock Sioux tribe. For over seven years, the tribe never felt this project was important enough to participate in the planning.
• The tribe has been and is being used by Globalist interests to create an “occupy” environmental protest movement.
• The true goals of the organizers behind the “occupy” protest movement have nothing to do with the protection of the Standing Rock Sioux tribe."

"If you follow the money, sponsorship and media promotion of the Standing Rock protest, you will find that the leading organizer and promoter is Indigenous Rising Media. This group is part of The Indigenous Environmental Network. This group is a major element of the People’s Climate March. It doesn’t take much research to uncover that the money behind this organization is coming from the same entities that are funding social justice, communist, and illegal alien protection organizations including Black Lives Matter, La Raza, the Workers World Party and the Revolutionary Communist Party; George Soros and his extensive network of Globalist allies."

https://www.oathkeepers.org/protesting-standing-rock-may-helping-george-soros/

 

I added the question mark I meant to put in at first. However is that article you have above from Daniel Pipes and you say B.S built on B.S - hmm I think you are talking about what you are reading.

Political theorists say we are now living as Plutocracies. This is accepted. Our Governments no longer serve the people they serve the most wealthy few. In the US it does not matter whether it is the Republicans or the Democrats in power. Both are now doing it. Whether or not the US moves towards fascism under Trump or after his impeachment under Pence or after an unchanged Democratic Party the reality is that is where you are heading.

History Professor Timothy Snyder believes there are some criteria which are typical of Fascism and he believes that at the moment they are in the White House - and most certainly in the US as was obvious the way people posted during your election and after.

Here is what he says is the situation under which fascism thrives.

1. Fascism denies Facts. It replaces these with myths, legends and a sense of unity.

2. Institutions and the usual norms and rules no longer matter. The only thing which matters is National Unity.

3. Globalisation is not seen as an objective challenge. There is no objective challenge. There are no facts and institutions with expertise. Instead Globalisation takes on a face....so Globalisation must be the Jews, or our neighbours, or the Chinese or the Mexicans or of course the Muslims or whoever it might be. It is not that there is a real world out there which causes real hard problems that you need to think about, it is that there are enemies and conspiracies.

That is how fascism sees things ...and that sure sounds like the Trump supporters I was hearing.

The violence comes a little later. Fascism is usually brought in by democracy.

Of course some Political Theorists believe we are already on our way to living under despotism which is another possibility.

The New Despotism of the 21st Century: Imagining the End of Democracy

 

You're acting like you have investments in the project.

 

I find his argument compelling. Specifically all the damage done by the snowflakes in their zeal. Protesters do that all the time.

The facts he's quoting about the pipeline/s stand and are superior to conjecture and anti Russian MSM propaganda. I find the two items unrelated.

The MSM obsession with the Russians is a different issue to me. Just my opinion

Basically and you don't do this often is you are trying to draw a straight line around a circle to get to your attempted narrative. That by definition is impossible.

Counter his facts with more than questions about his stock investments

 

The link I posted is from "Dakota Access pipeline facts." https://daplpipelinefacts.com/ Apparently you didn't go there. I have no idea who Daniel Pipes is.

Pipelines are tested before they are put into service. Faults are detected and fixed. So far the only eco-disaster is from the protestors themselves.

This thread is about the Dakota pipeline...not Fascism. However IF you really want to go there, what about the 'brown-shirt' protestors PAID by the fascist George Soros? He is a modern-day despot.

 

You are acting like you're getting paid by one of Soros' foundations.

 

I did. See the article I provided in the post you replied to. His "facts" come from the energy company's website. If you find that compelling then that's not my problem.

 

I see you've got your back up. Alright I'll be blunt. I don't care where he got his facts from if they are indisputable. Which has not been done in this thread so far.

If the data is present to contest those facts then do so. If not then RPA1 has debunked your OP.

Bluntly put. It's that simple

Ps- I've always been a huge fan of your investigative work ( kinda like an investigative journalist) backed up with sources and facts. This Thread and OP is not on your level.

And for you to state in your OP " This is true journalism" strikes me a personal blow. Simply because I had you on a pedestal of truth.

That ***** isn't true journalism. It can't be. By definition. True journalism is balanced. Providing both sides of view with facts and sources and let your readers, listeners, viewers decide.

Carry on.

 

This thread is about police using counterinsurgency tactics against protesters. Do have anything to say about that? It's in the title.

 

I'm sorry Horhey, I don't see any text points or quotes in your OP which I am able to have an opinion. I mean there's literally no assertion at all. I mean I see a paragraph.. claiming X, then Y, finally Z. But... No actual statement?

My comments thus far have been out of respect confined to what's being discussed. Which you haven't responded too.

I mean unless you think it's OK let alone and I grimace to say this actually think your OP even meets the forum thread creation guidelines?

Now that I'm on the subject. This OP is so grossly inept and biased I'm going to report it out of suspicion that the real Horheys account has been compromised.

He would never post such inane unsubstantiated gibberish!

Oh oh this is real journalism! Here watch a video? Get back to me with an opinion?

Reported.

 

Bizarre. The article is in big letters. I began this thread by commenting on how this is what happens when the police serve at the behest of big business. Right at the top.

 

Nope. I am a huge fan of Horheys investigative posts. Your TITLE is not supported by your OP. In fact your OP is nothing but an off title rant and he would never do that. Also please review posts of his from 6 months ago.

He would have much text opinion backing up each actual assertion explaining pictures.. Or themes..

Imposter!

 

Maybe you just don't understand what I'm saying in the op.

 

Hah oh I understand, and we'll I'll let the mods decide. But Ima have a bit of fun with you first propaganda imposter

See I've followed Horheys posts religiously since I came here last year

And these last few weeks I've been furrow in my brow at the rather transparent BIAS and lack of well skill in creating and defending OPs

But Horhey commands alot of respect from me so naively I didn't put it together.

Your an imposter.

Flamboyant titles
Thread creation rate increased
Posts with no assertions to support title
Blatantly biased
Video crap with no explanations
Very little or no opinion outside of a very narrow narrative.

I could go on?

Horhey was one of our finest and most respected investigative posters AND by God be a man and admit it. Your not him

What sealed it for me? You couldn't even come up with a half arse rebuttal to RPA1s argument... You couldn't even come up with nothing? Zero? You derailed to asking him about his personal finances??

Not to take anything away from RPA1 because I'm not but the real Horhey could have and would have had points to back up his OP.

You didn't

Cuz you ain't him. ****

 

I commented on the article the thread is based on. If you mean I didn't back up my points comparing the mentality of the police to those of US client states then ok I agree but I've made that case countless times already. Didn't need to anyways.

I'm starting to think the real issue here is that I hit an ideological nerve. I'm a leftist. If my criticism of the media's coverage of the Russia issue made you think I was a libertarian, so sorry to disappoint you. The independant left does see it that way though.

 

Ideological nerve? I have no ideology other than common sense

So if you are Horhey.. Not saying you are but let's suppose. This kind of thread is what you've been reduced to? Trump did all this? You created a thread made massive video assertions. Claim this is real journalism. Got countered. Wasn't even a hard counter. Then had nothing?

That's the definition of biased propaganda. Admitted by you.. Well.. If Trump can reduce smart even left people to this level..

Anyway Im done here. GL. Won't open another thread by you. Thanks for the heads up.

 

The real journalism was the article the thread is based on. Had you figured for a Trump partisan. This policy began under Obama, so no, Trump didn't do all of this. But thanks, go be weird in other people's threads.