DOE agrees 9-11 was a Nuclear Event

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  1. John T

    John T New Member

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    Does this look like a building is falling down or exploding?

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    The real 9-11 report, initially released by the Russians, is now supported directly by
    both of the team that wrote it at the U.S. Department of Energy and the IAEA.

    Nuclear physicists are irritated at the orchestrated cover-up of how the buildings were brought down.

    Full story at: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/05/the-doe-defends-nuclear-911/
     
  2. John T

    John T New Member

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    The heading of this section is: Nuclear, Chemical & Bio Weapons.
    So why is this the wrong section?
    And as for "This is not the Conspiracy Theory section", this is not a conspiracy theory.
    It is a fact. Do some homework.
     
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    John T New Member

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    "There was never a good war, or a bad peace."
    Benjamin Franklin
     
  4. John T

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    I suppose you are more in league with Adolf Hitler who said,

    Now I don't agree with everything Adolf Hitler said or did, but that is how I feel about all politicians.

    What I know is the only to win a war is to never start one.

    Have you ever personally been in a War?

    I am more inclined to agree with Eisenhower.
     
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    This is a crock.. No evidence for radiation contamination.
     
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    John T New Member

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    9/11 first responders dying of radiation exposure illnesses.

    http://presscore.ca/nbg/?x=entry:entry101210-074545

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    Since at this point I was the only one that had commented on this insanity, I guess this remark was aimed at me.

    Yes, I have personally been in a war. I first put on the uniform of my country during President Reagan's first term, and I am still wearing it to this day. Campaign medals, combat patches, and all the other good things that go along with it.

    And it is amazingly how much Der Paper Hanger sounded like Carl Marx. Although not surprising since both thought Socialism was the wave of the future. But in case you did not realize, I go along much more with John Stuart Mill. Or another wise man, who said:

    Yea, this all entirely belongs down here in the conspiracy theory section.

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    Well, obviously the moderators here agree that it is conspiracy theory fodder. And not unlike the 10 other threads of this exact same content that have appeared in here over the years.
     
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    Mushroom Well-Known Member

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    And BTW, this is known to be conspiracy theory fodder simply because of your source.

    Veterans Today. This is really nothing but an Anti-Semitic conspiracy site. I mean, it is not even bad research, it is a complete and utter joke.

    They claim to be helping Veterans, but all they do is throw you at the VA, or other organizations. At one time they were almost shut down because they were trying to portray themselves as a VSO, which they are not.

    Oh, and they are another group that has rarely met a conspiracy theory they did not like. From every event from 9-11 and now Charlie Hebdo to Boston, Colorado, and Connecticut incidents all being "False Flag".

    And yea, interestingly enough they promote that 9-11 was a US False Flag attack, and also done by the Mossad. Figure that one out.

    Sorry, but if you come in here with Veterans Today as your reference, you deserve to be kicked all the way down to the CT section. That site has about as much credibility as Professor Utonium does in teaching science.
     
  9. Gamolon

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    I find it horrific that you truthers don't research the actual articles you post to find out how they were put together to make it seem like truth. Your article is a perfect example of injected garbage based upon certain people's beliefs and theories, all mashed together to make it seem like it's official.

    It's quite pathetic really. All one has to do is look around and find just how this article/quote was formed.

    Here is a link to the Multiple Myeloma , Vancouver Island Support Group: http://www.myelomavancouverisland.ca/myeloma-causes.html. Here is what is on the site. Pay particular attention to the part I put in red:
    My question is, in the site above, where is the sentence stating that "These growth of these cancers among Ground Zero workers, and others, are consistent with exposure to radiation contamination."?

    On we go to the 9/11 Cancer Cops website linked here: http://nypost.com/2007/05/31/911-cancer-cops/. Below is article on there website:
    Again, where is the mention of radiation? Where/when did the statement "These growth of these cancers among Ground Zero workers, and others, are consistent with exposure to radiation contamination." get added into the mix?

    I then found an article at this link by someone named David Jones: https://exopoliticsnews.wordpress.c...d-contaminated-the-world-trade-center-towers/. See text I put in red below.
    So David Jones, who seems to be into UFOs, Aliens, and other things, decided to add the statement in red above, which is based on nothing more than his own crazy beliefs and theories.

    What I find even more peculiar is that your quote above...
    ...leaves out a very telling portion of the actual quote from David Jones. After the word "contamination", there should be more. What was left out you ask? See below...
    It's very clear that David Jones is the originator of that part of the sentence and truthers jumped on it to make it seem like medical professionals have concluded it was radiation that caused all the issues and not a mix of toxins.

    How pathetic.
     
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    I looked up the Exopolitics Canadian, where David Jones is an author, and below is what their site says. Here is the link: http://www.exopoliticscanada.ca/
    That's where you and some of your fellow truthers are getting your information John T.
     
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    This just gets better and better. An article from Gordon Duff (Senior editor at Veterans Today) located here: http://www.stewwebb.com/2014/05/26/classified-publish-bush-nuclear-piracy-exposed/
    Vaporized the antenna? Is that why we see it falling here?
    http://www.sharpprintinginc.com/911...op=view_page&PAGE_id=175&MMN_position=604:604

    :roll:
     
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    Not to mention they have the remains of the thing stored somewhere with other debris from the towers.....Ask them about EMP,see what answer they give
     
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    Yea, major science fail there. Gotta love VT though. Where else do you get such fascinating and informative information?

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/23/hugh-akins-kabbalistic-zionism-is-the-core-of-world-events/

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/17/the-holocaust-a-jew-on-jew-false-flag-operation/

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/12/27/climate-scientist-blows-whistle-on-aerosol-dumps-chemtrails/

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/0...rations-between-some-va-workers-and-veterans/

    Yea, I really love the last. To bad the shooting at WBAMC-VAC was from a former employee not a deranged veteran.

    And now, one of my favorites:

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/11/17/defeating-aegis-the-us-naval-boondoggle/

    Yea, I still keep in contact with a great many buddies in the Air Defense field and I called some up to ask them about this. One was a 25 year veteran in PATRIOT, CWO4 and RADAR expert. And the AN/MPQ-65 RADAR we used is simply a scaled down version of the AN/SPY-1 that AEGIS uses.

    He said this was actually brought up by a Battalion Commander in 11th ADA Brigade, and they passed it up to Raytheon and the Pentagon. Only took 2 days to get a reply back, was junk science and unworkable. And if you do a search in Google for "defeating aegis cross eye jamming", every single hit is just a reposting of this article.

    Then people wonder why even Veterans think Veterans Today is a great big steaming pile of coprolite.
     
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    :roflol:

    I love how truthers quote mine and apply their own spin on certain things to create all these conspiracies. Just because the word "aerosol" comes into play, these folks immediately think the government is deliberately spraying chemicals into the air.

    I just read this paper and it explains exactly how these "jet aerosols" are formed and what they are comprised of.
    http://www.albany.edu/~yfq/papers/YuTurcoContrail97GL03695.pdf

    No wonder some people who read these types of sites believe this stuff. Just quote mine certain things, add your own spin to it, and then slap some impressive credentials onto the person writing the article or onto the person who has given the information to the author.

    People like John T eat this stuff up. They figure it's written by people that had high positions somewhere in the government for us civilians. why would THEY lie?

    :roll:
     
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    Now that the dust has settled a little, let's get back to the original question.

    “Does this look like a building is falling down or exploding?”

    View attachment 33010

    The picture above shows mostly dust, not large steel beams crushing 100 concrete floors, building materials, and office equipment.
    The two towers were 1,350 feet tall. This happened in ten-eleven seconds.

    Do falling steel beams have the energy to crush concrete and building materials, and turn office equipment into dust?

    In the center of the building, there were forty-seven rectangular steel beams three by four feet around, and the wall thickness of the four beam sides was three to four inches thick. (the thickness of the beam sides tapered off with each higher floor; the higher beams were thinner and lighter than the beams below them)

    In addition to the forty-seven beams in the center of the building, the building was surrounded by additional structural steel girders and covered with an aluminum facade.

    In the center of the picture above, there are two falling steel beams horizontal to ground level with dust trailing off of them. Why are they dusty?

    If the building was falling down, what would have caused the dust to be on them if the building was already gone underneath them?

    Wouldn't the falling steel beams be doing the crushing and not falling through dust?

    In the picture above there is an upward-moving plume of dust coming out of the middle of the tower.
    If the building is falling down, how can the plume be going up?

    That plume is dust captured in upward moving hot air. What caused the air to get hot enough to carry dust upward?

    The ingredients of the 'toxic brew' that made up the dust that is responsible for the higher than average incidence of unexpected cancers among first responders is not the question.

    The question is: What made the buildings turn to dust?
     
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    lol!!!!

    "nuclear event".

    so how come I don't have elevated levels of radiation?

    how come NO ONE in NYC has elevated levels of radiation?

    lol!!!!!

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    the buildings didn't turn to dust, the concrete floors did.

    hundreds of thousands of tons of steel was recovered from GZ.
     
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    Falling down. It's even more apparent in video.
     
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    For that matter, where was the blast? Are they supposed to have used some kind of micro-nukes like something out of science fiction?

    Plus, such claims would conflict with the nano thermite claims. I think the "nuclear event" theorists had better get things straight with their fellow kooks before trying to make a case to the rest of us.
     
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    Where is the flash. Nuclear weapons blind people that are looking at them when they happen. Where are all the blind people?
    The planes hit the buildings and the heat from jet fuel took out one floor. The weight of the floors above brought the building down.

    Not much inside the buildings but steel and sheet rock.
     
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    Clearly. There are no explosions to cite in the evidence at hand. Some try to claim that dust flying out of windows as the collapse is starting and taking place is evidence of an explosion, but that is obviously the result of dusty air being forced out of each building as the interior volume reduced in the process of the collapse.

    You know, arguing with conspiracy theorists is like arguing with creationists. It's a connection I ended up making some years back, and it has only been borne out in my encounters with both crowds and their claims ever since. Neither is anywhere near to reality. It's like arguing with a modern-day flat earther, provided you can find one, and you probably can if you look hard enough.
     
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    Well, since buildings don't turn to dust as they drop, my guess is Allah did it. This is clearly a supernatural event, and set precedents in building collapse. The bad news here, is that Allah is on THEIR side, so go ahead and kiss your ass goodbye, or convert to Islam as fast as you can.

    There is nothing with the destruction of those buildings there that looks natural In fact, it is highly unnatural. This stuff just doesn't happen in the real world, from fires and plane crashes. If this was not allowed to happen, with some help from high tech, then that leaves Allah being involved. And it looks like something a god would do, turn two super buildings into dust as they fell. That is old testament stuff there.

    What happened at that site can never be replicated, by fire and airliners crashing into those buildings. And office fires have never brought down one single building, as if it was rigged to be brought down. Find just one. Yet it happened more than once, on the same day in NYC. So, Allah did it.
     
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    I breathed in a lot of the WTC dust.

    till this date, I have no medical history of any measurable levels of radiation.

    as most nukes have a radioactive halflife of a few weeks, this is proof that no nukes were used at GZ.

    case closed.
     
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    The theory that there were nukes in the towers does not come from 9/11 truthers. It comes from agents masquerading as truthers to make the truther movement look silly. This is part of a plan thought up by some public-relations agency hired by the government.

    provocateurs,shills and disinfo agents
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYedTmaHt1A

    They seem to have gotten to a lot of anti-establishment pundits too.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhrZ57XxYJU

    There's a lot of disinfo out there. Here's a link to some real truther info.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=348380&p=1063729867#post1063729867

    Real truthers don't believe in the no-plane theory or the nukes-in-the-towers theory. They believe the government planned and carried out the attacks with empty remote-control planes in order to start a phoney war on terror so that they would have a pretext to invade Afghanistan for its lithium and Iraq for its oil, etc.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/search?q=lithium
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/search?q=iraq+oi
     
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    Cause goodness knows that it is so hard to make truthers look silly.

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