Does atheism poise a safety risk to Christians?

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Is the ideology of atheism as practiced in the USA poise a safety danger to Christians?

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The video gives examples of how atheists can go out of their way to be intensely aggressive towards Christians in rabid, out of control violence towards them.



    The Columbine shooter specifically asked students if they were a Christian and those who answered yes were murdered.

    The Oregon college shooter also asked who was a Christian and murdered them.

    An atheist who ranted online against Christians and Christianity murdered 20 people and shot even more - mostly children and women - in a small town Christian church.

    With only a tiny percentage of Americans being atheist, why do we only read of atheists mass murdering Christians because they are Christian, but never read of a Christian mass murdering atheists?

    On this forum are hundreds, possibly thousands, of messages by atheists smearing, ranting against and ridiculing Christians.

    The few times there has been an atheist leader such as Mao and Stalin, they mass murdered people and specifically targeted Christians and Christian leaders.

    Does the ideology of atheism as practiced in the USA poise a safety danger to Christians?
     
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  2. Chester_Murphy

    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Calling @Renee.

    I think your opinion is needed here. You've taught some of these folks.
     
  3. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    And ;all those good Christians who supported Hitler when he asked who here is Jewish..I guess they must’ve all been atheists. Interesting how they all came out of church and it had a big cross in front
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Christians were the only people to oppose Hitler. Atheists loved him, just like they loved Mao and Stalin.

    Hitler was the guy of atheists, not Christians. All atheist national leaders have been mass murderers and who persecuted Christians.

    Thank you for giving another extreme danger atheism poises to people's freedom and lives. Hitler is one of your anti-Christian heroes, isn't he?


    Nazi persecution of the Catholic Church in Germany
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_persecution_of_the_Catholic_Church_in_Germany

    By 1940, a dedicated clergy barracks had been established by the Nazis at Dachau Concentration Camp. Of a total of 2,720 clergy recorded as imprisoned at Dachau, the overwhelming majority, some 2,579 (or 94.88%) were Catholic - among them 400 German priests. Catholic schools in Germany were phased out by 1939 and Catholic press by 1941. With the expansion of the war in the East from 1941, there came also an expansion of the regime's attack on the Church in Germany. Monasteries and convents were targeted and expropriation of Church properties surged. The Jesuits were especially targeted.[8] The German bishops accused the Reich Government of "unjust oppression and hated struggle against Christianity and the Church".

    In the Polish areas annexed by Nazi Germany a severe persecution was launched from 1939. Here the Nazis set about systematically dismantling the Church - arresting its leaders, exiling its clergymen, closing its churches, monasteries and convents. Many clergymen were murdered. At least 1811 Polish clergy died in Nazi concentration camps. Hitler's plans for the Germanization of the East saw no place for the Christian Churches. The Church was also harshly treated in other annexed regions such as in Austria under the Gauleiter of Vienna, Odilo Globocnik, who confiscated property, closed Catholic organisations and sent many priests to Dachau; and in the Czech lands where religious orders were suppressed, schools closed, religious instruction forbidden and priests sent to concentration camps.
     
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  5. Renee

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    You mean all those people that watched Jews being beaten up on the streets for all non-Christians? Kristallnacht come to mind? Your source is bullshit. I know a great deal about Dachau and find it hard to believe that you wrote what you did. Why not just wear a sign saying “I am not educated and just repeat things that make no sense at all” yeah, Dachau was mostly catholic lol
    I just got back from the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC and there is an exhibit called the neighbors. All these good Christian neighbors were looting their friends apartments as they were being dragged down the stairs to their death. Hitler himself went to church and there’s many pictures of him coming out of church. The Catholic Church did nothing to help the Jews and later a pope apologized.
     
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    Extremism and intolerance are the danger, whether it be from atheists, muslims or other christians.

    There does seem to be extremism growing in the atheist 'community' as it were, but not yet enough to constitute a threat worthy of response. Its likely just a response itself to the rejection of the progressivism that has been atheism's sociologocal ally. Given a bit more time, atheists will 'get over' their ally's demise and move on.
     
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    Gee, wonder why they went to church! Yes thousands of Christians were sent to their death because they were gay or handicapped. ..and were turned in by good Christians who went to church. And millions of Christians stood by and did nothing. I love the way you kick Christians you don’t like out of your Christian club and call them Atheists. You sound so foolish and so uneducated..just the way trump likes you
     
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    Not a Christian. But even more, I do not share your religious ideology of hate in your messages.

    What Christians did was destroyed your atheist Nazi utopia, just like it was Christians who destroyed your Democrat Party slavery and slave nation. To understand atheism in government now? Study N. Korea.
     
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    nazis were christers, thats why we jews dislike you people

     
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    Do Star Trek Fans pose a safety risk to Christians?

    <Paste random article of a single Trekkie attacking a Christian here>
     
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  11. Renee

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    I can just look here. You are a Holocaust denier protecting those who Killed millions and slavery denier....yep, they were all atheists
    Hey why not just blame the Muslims
     
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    Hitler was well aligned with many Muslims and many Muslims see Hitler as a hero.
     
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    Let me explain something the Pope cut a deal with Hitler if the Church would stay out of politics in the Nazi Regime and with that the clergy, the Church would be off limits and protected. Hitler and the Nazi's didn't like the Pope and the Church or other Christians save THEIR version Hitler controlled but the Pope had a seriously good position to hurt the Nazi's rise to power and later to cause trouble. However individual clergy and leaders did oppose the Nazi's often openly and so Hitler saw they had every right to crack down according to their deal. Other Christians were just in the way and could just denounce their faith and pledge loyalty to the Nazi's and they could go home. Polish priests had the choice stay out of politics and the war or else. The Russian Orthodox Church has NO deals so were to the Nazi's enemies.

    But Hitler was a Christian he never denied Jesus was the son of God just not a Jew, he headed his own Church (Anglicans were founded by a King and the royal presence in the UK is the head of the Church the same thing) and the SS had a strong interest in religion and the occult.

    The Catholic Church's Pope was the big issue if he opposed the Nazi's, sided against the rising regime and openly sided against him he could have ended the threat before it was a real threat but the Pope didn't trust Communism and saw the Nazi's likely as a weapon but failed to see they were as bad if not worse than Stalin. And when the threat was clear didn't excommunicate Hitler and openly order all Catholics globally to oppose the Axis. And if the Vatican was stormed and the Pope killed he would have been martyred and a rally for the faithful. If not he could have acted with the wealth and authority of the Church and supporting all means to depose the Axis. It would have been a win either way in the end. But they did - nothing - as a Church. Fortunately individual clergy stood against the menace with true heroism no matter the cost.
     
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    I'm an atheist, and if I have to listen to one more street preacher bothering me while I wait for the bus I might just loose my temper and pop them in the nose.

    So yes atheists are dangerous to Christians.
     
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    Nothing new. The Pope also declared that Christians could deny being Christians previously to avoid total genocide of all Catholics. That practice dated back to the Roman Empire when it was declared Christians can deny their faith to save their own lives in the face of mass murder.

    So you complaint is that NOT ENOUGH CATHOLIC priests and members were sent to death camps, correct? Rather than thousands you demand that it should have been all Catholics who were killed - furious that any CATHOLICS lived. In fact, Italy also was controlled by fascists so your complaint is that the Pope did not declare that Hitler and Mussolini should have essentially had all Catholics in Europe murdered. They would not have killed the Pope, but rather taken him into custody, found some Bishop willing to do what they demanded to savee his life, and used him instead.

    BUT, you are just FINE with atheists not opposing Hitler and NONE willing to die to stop him, aren't you? There were nos ATHEIST barracks in holocaust camps, where there? Atheists and Hitler were on the same team. And since you are just a-ok with NO history of ANY German atheists opposing Hitler, it would seem so are you in your messages.

    Really, I got it. You are FURIOUS that Hitler did not murder ALL Christians in all of Europe. Your hero let you down?

    But correct me if I'm wrong: Tell me how many atheists did Hitler have imprisoned in death camps for being atheists. Tell me about the great German atheist rebellion against Hitler.

    The history of Hitler is the history of the dangers of atheist leaders of government. NO heist
     
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    Yes, you are a violence danger to society by your own admission.

    What about people protesting Trump at a bus stop? Ok to pop them in the nose? What about their blocking a road? Ok to get out and "pop them in the nose?"
     
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    I've come up with a solution I don't take the bus, I drive a car.
     
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    It seems some atheists are determined to make my point. One is explaining how he wants to violent assault Christians for their exercising free speech. Two more declare that the thousands of Catholic priests murdered in death camps with Jews wasn't enough, but rather are furious that all Christians in all of Europe were not mass murdered - while fine with no atheists opposing Hitler. THESE are examples of how dangerous some American atheists' views are to Christians - and to no surprise for other messages they are all Democrats from what I can tell.
     
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    So now the only danger is you might lose your temper and if protesters block a road annoying you then you might pop them in the nose, correct?

    Give us your list of the various ways people bothering you with what they say might lead you to pop them in the nose - or is that limited to Christians?
     
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    I don't have a temper, except for Christian street preachers at the bus stop.

    Hey if they won't leave me alone when I tell them to because they think there's no freedom from religion I get mad.
     
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    If that would lead to violent criminal acts as you claim you should seek counseling.
     
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    I know it's a criminal act which is why I won't do it.

    But it really steams me that I have no alternative to violence to make a Christian stop preaching at me.

    Like I said I don't take the bus, I'm never taking the bus again, I drive a car instead.
     
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    Gott Mit Uns!
    Sorts the Hitler bit out.
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    A blend of fascist and roman catholic, made the Nazis look like boy scouts.
     
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    Both Stalin and Mao were educated in strict religious schools, and Stalin reintroduced the church to help people die for mother Russia better, so there may be a link between a strict religious education and becoming a tyrant.
     
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    Now we add an atheist openly defending Nazism claiming relativity.

    I knew I could count on some of our vehemently anti-Christian Democrat atheists to make my point for me.

    1. So intolerant of Christians having free speech a desire to do violence to them
    2. Furious that all Christians in Europe were not killed by Hitler
    3. Indifference, even condemnations, of those Christian priests and ministers who died in the same camps as Jews
    4. Outraged that the Pope did not support Stalin - even though Stalin and then after communism slaughtered Christians
    5. A defense of Nazis as a trivial as boy scouts compared to Catholics

    Keep making my point.
     

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