Does income entitle one to a child?

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  1. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    It is ideal to have two great parents in the home. But the argument about not having our role model doesn’t explain why girls don’t end up in the same situations as boys not having a man In the house. They also need models. I would hear that Argument and sometimes from the very kids I taught and I believe there is some truth, but the bad side is it is enabling.
    I didn’t give them an excuse..I would tell them it just means they had to work harder.
    The best compliment I got from the 16 kids who I taught and met in New York who are now older than I am :) they each thought they were my favorite,
     
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    No, but lack of it should definitely not give entitlement.
    Many poor white trash folks around where I live are of that same opinion. I know first hand as some of them are in my family. Can't feed 'em don't breed 'em. Why should I have to pay to feed, clothe and house someone else's children?
    Just as stupid people should not breed, neither should poor people. As to the number of children? No person on the earth should reproduce more than one offspring. One man, one woman: two children.

    Just my personal opinions.

    Rich
     
  3. Renee

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    And I think people who talk as hateful as you do should not be allowed to breed either
     
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    I totally agree. I have no children, hence Last in Richard The Last.

    I'm sorry if you see my posting as hateful. I see it as blatantly honest.
     
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    I see people who think The rich should be entitled to more children than the poor as blatantly hateful
     
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    I see people who have offspring they cannot or choose not to provide for as the most vile beings on earth.
     
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    That's why abortion should always be an option .
     
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    Agreed, and based on the amount of children is distressed situations in this country we need a lot more abortions.
     
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    An interesting opinion. I personally don't understand the logic there. Could you explain your position?
     
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    What you are saying is that people who do not have a lot of money should not have children. I wonder if your next step is people who are comfortable and have children and then lose their jobs and have to go on government assistance should have to give up their kids.
    Sadly you equate money with love and materialism
     
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    ahh ... female here, and I agree with him/her. pregnancy is 100% preventable.
     
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    Actually, the 'preaching of abstinence' works exceptionally well, and always has. It's absolutely normal in huge swathes of humanity, with breeding not done until the time is right. It's the reason why we see so few unwanted pregnancies (or underage sex) in some cultures.

    You seem kinda naive, it must be said.
     
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    Try reversing that. It's childish to imagine that no adult can control themselves. Or rather, incredibly insular and naive. PLENTY of cultures dissuade sex before marriage, and millions of people manage it with no problems. Why don't you know this? Seriously?

    People can and do 'stop having sex' all the time. Either they don't start (til marriage), or they stop for any number of reasons. Again, bizarrely naive thinking.
     
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    So you have somehow come to the perverse conclusion that the only pregnancy prevention option available is some form of medication?

    OMG ... such unworldly posters here today!
     
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    People whose interest is in the protection and welfare of children, rather than the feelings of adults, you regard as hateful.

    Says much.
     
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    We aren’t talking about children,,,,,Do you life begins at conception and ends at birth
     
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    Any chance you could say that again, in English?
     
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    Actually I equate money with being able to pay one's way in the world. You bring up an interesting point with government assistance. Government assistance was originally supposed to be just that assistance. It was also originally supposed to be a temporary solution. We, as taxpayers, all payed into the system. If you or I lost our job or had other hardship which prevented us from working then we could use the assistance to get back on our feet. Once a person was back to work they were paying into the system again. It was never intended to support families for generations. Those are the types I am talking about. Do you suggest that I as a taxpayer should be in favor of allowing people with no income to have children just because they will love them? What about the hard working people who pay large portions of their income in taxes to support those with no money? Do you suppose they would like to hold onto a little more of that money in stead of paying taxes to support those unwilling to work? Those taxpayers have children who would benefit form more money being kept in the household instead of going to support the poor undeserving and their babies.
     
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    So you're female and do everything that poster tells you because it matters to you what he thinks......mmm, OK.

    ...and , no, pregnancy is not 100% preventable unless one gives up sex, and why should anyone do that?
     
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    No, your silly insult aside states with abstinence only sex education have the highest rates of teen pregnancy.

    But feel free to show me where people don't have sex until they want to be pregnant......I'm so "naïve" I've never heard of that place...
     
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    It's pretty much sheer idiocy to think humans will stop having sex ..... Please show your proof that so MANY people stop having sex.


    AND so what if they do????

    Just because some people don't have sex doesn't mean everyone should quit having sex....what a silly thing to think!!!

    Humans have been having sex and getting pregnant since humans began ...how "naïve" (;)) to think they will ALL stop because some people do....
     
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    Which I never said...


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    How bizarrely "naïve" ( ;) )to think that since some people you imagined never have sex that everyone should quit having sex....
     
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    Sorry for the typo...I will repeat it again. For people like you, life begins at conception and ends at birth
     
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    Silly you..that’s only women, ....sex is dirty and sinful for women. We’re breeders
     
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    :) ...and I still haven't heard about that mysterious place where no one has sex until they are married and want children....LOL!
     

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