Does this bill have any chance of passage?

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Which, ironically, those let in with amnesty before don't support new illegals being granted amnesty... Historically, this isn't working for democrats, but they insist that this time it will... Laughable.
     
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    Its not Myorkis number, its CBP number but of course you assume everyone is always lying to you about everything.
     
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    Nope they sure don't.. I have heard that dozens of times myself..
     
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    100% correct. Both need to keep using illegal immigration to appeal to their base. They do this because they know their base is made up of lap dogs who jump when they tell them to.
     
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    So what's the problem?
     
  6. Lil Mike

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    Why would Biden need to? All the dems want is amnesty, they will ignore everything else, otherwise they would already be enforcing the law. This is a bad bill but I wouldn't put it past the GOP to try to help slip it through.
     
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    Yes the laws to protect our borders are already on the books, but Biden won’t enforce them. He’s broken his oath “to protect and defend the constitution.” For that he should be impeached. The Democrat response is that defending the border is a “matter of policy” and therefore not an impeachable offense. That’s a load of crap.
     
  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    IOW, they have returned because the US job market improved post the COVID slowdown. What evidence do you have that people who have applied for asylum were granted it illegally?
     
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    Enforcing the laws is literally the job of the President. So if they won't do it now, they certainly are not going to do it after they get what they want.
     
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    Why don't Democrats make sure it is not a campaign issue by securing the border?
     
  11. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have to say once again it's frustrating dealing with the allegations you make since you never cite a source. Is this what you're talking about?

    Mayorkas says not all 1.2M illegal immigrants with final removal orders should be deported
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mayorkas-senate-hearing-migrant-response-new-border-numbers

    If not, what is it? Please prove Mayorkas lied.
     
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  12. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you provide any evidence of this?
     
  13. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gosh, you Biden immigration bashers have many opinions but as yet no substantiated facts to back them up. Making this a day that ends in Y.
     
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    They are bussed and flown around the country by federal government. Widen your media selections and you can find the truth easily.
     
  16. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The first two examples you gave were on Repubs. Reagan's amnesty in 1986 and invoking 245i in 1994 when Repubs controlled Congress. So when you say "their history" to which party are you referring?
     
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    Doesn't matter who gave them amnesty, but OK, good on Republicans I guess :) The point you are trying to wash is the number of illegals sitting around and crossing our borders illegally waiting for amnesty..

    Your spin is noted though, ugly attempt but notable nonetheless ;)
     
  18. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think what you're trying to say is "I wish you hadn't blown up my premise that it's Dems who have given select groups of immigrants amnesty."
     
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    I might if you hadn't tried to avoid the original claim :) You wanted proof and I gave it to you and you been running from it while spinning like a top LMFAO ;)

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    We had the border issue solved until Biden found political reason to dynamite the border.
     
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    Looks to me like there are enough GOP sell outs to pass it in lame duck.

    Pro-Open Borders = Complicit in Child Sex Trafficking.

    300,000 KIDS SEX-TRAFFICKED IN TEXAS: 'Given that fact, the urgent demands for tough action at the border that marked the introduction earlier today by 23 Texas Republican House members make sense.'

    They make sense if you are against child sex trafficking.

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    '“This morning as we gather, there are approximately 300,000 young Texans in the sex-slave industry in our state. Because of this open-border policy, they are in a life that is just a living hell,” Brady, a Texas Republican who’s retiring at the end of the 117th Congress, told reporters.'

    Close the border to illegal entry.
    Close it now.
     
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    It is like being on parole: they have to regularly meet with their immigration worker, or they forfeit their claim, and face deportation.
     
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    Your reservations seem well-founded. That article doesn't give any details, though. The thing that is most needed, for example, on the border, are immigration judges (and court space). Would significant funds go for that use? Under this plan, we would still allow people to apply for asylum, only from outside the U.S.? I don't know that Title 42-- which was enacted, at least nominally, because the health emergency of the pandemic-- would, or could, be kept in place, perpetually. Also, this is still far from a full solution, as it only deals with Dreamers, not all the others who are here, illegally. Not to mention, we still need to revisit our immigration policies, to address allowing immigrants with desirable, needed skills, to not be barred, due to other quotas.

    I still think the most effective way to deal with immigration, would be through strict enforcement of laws directed at those who employ illegal, undocumented workers (recognizing that there is probably a legitimate need for some migrant farm workers, for whom we should then carve about a legal exemption).
     
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    republicans will never vote for it, they get everything they want, but they won't allow the dreamer citizenship
     
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    after Trump, one can't even say that with a straight face, lol
     

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