Does what happened to President Ronald Reagan explain events since 2015?

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Are the owners of BigMedia doing to President Trump what they threatened President Reagan with?

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  3. Maybe??????? That is scary though and puts a whole new spin on modern USA history!!!!

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This message by Pastor Kent Christmas is powerful and if you will go to the following link there is a documentary that is two hours long that I consider is brilliantly done. It is entitled "Why Big Oil Conquered the World."

    .... "President Reagan was awesome and.......
    a threat that President Reagan is reported to have received may help to explain what has been happening since 2015.......

    President Ronald Reagan was said to have apologized to one of his major supporters from California.....
    while campaigning he told her that he did not want G. H. W. Bush as his V. P......
    several months or years later he apologized to her and told her that a group of owners of BigMedia had met with him and had told him..... .either he has G. H. W. Bush as his V. P. OR THEY WOULD SO SMEAR HIM IN THEIR MEDIA..... that they own..... that he would be un-electable!!!!!

    He said that he knew that the threat made by these people was genuine because they owned BigMedia.....
    so he gave in and made G. H. W. Bush his V. P.

    The full implications of that aspect of USA history is more easily understood if we were to watch a two hour documentary that I consider is brilliantly done:"

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/if-americans-choose-the-wrong-president-there-will-be-consequences.580536/page-3&fbclid=IwAR0BmYB1GIjZYBLl7CBUVr-Uq-dsZ8aJJQYYTLD-kj2HIgNQWxmDwRVTLTI#post-1072302658

    If Americans choose the wrong President there will be consequences...








    Pastor Kent Christmas | Powerful Prophetic Release / December 13, 2020
     
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    It sort of happened like that.

    They needed to prep Bush for his own presidency (among other things) so it was vital he got the VP.

    As for the media being the threat well we don't know how exactly they did it since it was secretive but it's definitely possible that was one of their methods.

    The only mistake is that thinking Big Media were behind it, even today they don't have that kind of power.

    What they did with Bush was the same thing Hearst did when he owned all the major papers.

    He simply used them to fuel the fire so we would go to war with the Spanish and it worked brilliantly.
     
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    But they are no longer alone and now they work with BigPharma, BigBanking and BigGovernment!


    You might get a laugh out of this......


    President Trump always talks to waiters and waitresses and janitors and maintenance people at his hotels.... as well as to customers at his hotels and resorts..... and that way he always finds out what is really going on and where the problems are in each of his hotels and resorts...................... Because he always talks to his ordinary workers.... they become highly, highly, highly motivated to earn him more and more and more profits... which is a part of their basic Judaeo - Christian work ethic and Philosophy...... so.... President Trump always collided with elitist people ... (who often had lots of degrees and Ph. D's)..... who tried to talk him into regarding his ordinary workers as merely "Deplorables" as a certain woman suggested that they were!!!!

    Quite a contrast from Sleepy Joe who campaigns for the office of POTUS from his basement and sends Kamala to the USA - Mexico border!!!!!!!!!??????



    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-give-president-trump-victory-in-2020.580472/
     
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    HOW COULD ALL THE MISBEHAVIOUR OF HUNTER BIDEN BE IGNORED IF BIGMEDIA WAS AT ALL OBJECTIVE and even a little bit honest???????


    Perhaps all this attention on what is happening in Ukraine will lead to the exposure and indictment of Hunter Biden and then.......
    .......
    ........

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...the-exposure-of-hunter-biden-and-then.597374/
    Will the war in the Ukraine lead to the exposure of Hunter Biden and then....
     
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    More and more Americans are waking up to how BigMedia attempted to destroy President Trump.......

    evidence is even beginning to come out that President Obama stacked the FBI with his own loyal followers from 2008 to 2016......
     
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    If Biden is impeached and / or indicted.....
    and President Donald J. Trump is back in power....
    will Putin withdraw his troops from the Ukraine within days or will it take him weeks?????

    This documentary is two hours long but well worth watching because it explains so many aspects of the last fifty to a hundred years of U.S.A. and world history.

    Why Big Oil Conquered the World
     
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    No!
     
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    His last name is a joke, LOL
    His wife's name is Candy Christmas, even more ridiculous. :D
    Decline of Christianity as we like it. :)
     
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    Over in another discussion I got a couple of posts that in my opinion, set the stage nicely to tie all of this together in such a way that posters to political forum .com may actually be able to affect the future of the USA and the world in many positive ways because I believe that the saying is true .....

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hosea 4&version=NIV

    The Charge Against Israel
    4 Hear the word of the Lord, you Israelites,
    because the Lord has a charge to bring
    against you who live in the land:
    “There is no faithfulness, no love,
    no acknowledgment of God in the land.
    2 There is only cursing, lying and murder,
    stealing and adultery;
    they break all bounds,
    and bloodshed follows bloodshed.
    3 Because of this the land dries up,
    and all who live in it waste away;
    the beasts of the field, the birds in the sky
    and the fish in the sea are swept away.

    4 “But let no one bring a charge,
    let no one accuse another,
    for your people are like those
    who bring charges against a priest.
    5 You stumble day and night,
    and the prophets stumble with you.
    So I will destroy your mother—
    6 my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.

    “Because you have rejected knowledge,
    I also reject you as my priests;
    because you have ignored the law of your God,
    I also will ignore your children.

    Personally I will be posting a link to this discussion to many MeWe groups and it may become surprising how many readers this discussion will end up getting.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-and-the-media.331262/page-14#post-1074234901


    Wow!!!!!

    In my opinion you have done an excellent job of exposing what I believe will ultimately prove to be the downfall of "The Cabal", "The Eruv Rav", "The Illuminati" or "High Level Masons, (33 Degree Level Masons along with some 32 or 31 level Masons) and yes....to a high degree this would correspond with BigBanking plus BigOil plus BigMedia plus BigNews plus BigGovernment which would include what Steven Greer M. D. would term "Black Ops" which are high level Military Industrial Complex operations that yes........ are in competition to at least some degree with the Military Industrial Complexes of other nations and aspiring Economic and Military SuperPowers!

    The nearly four hour lecture by Steven Greer M. D. gives details about the life of President John F. Kennedy and President Ronald Reagan and other presidents that I found to be rather astonishing..... but it certainly did help to put pieces of the puzzle together!!!!!

    Could this UFO have been Made in America?




    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-and-the-media.331262/page-14#post-1074234958



    EXACTLY!!!!!!!

    On a MeWe group I recently saw a photo of Sir Richard Branson on something like a Seadoo with a young lady riding on behind him who was nude.......

    One of Sir Richard Branson's islands near Epstein Island is said to cater to number one level billionaires whereas Epstein Island catered more so to level TWO billionaires and millionaires!!!!

    That photo gives us something to think about....... because yes....... there are people who have some much video footage from those islands that they can pass a script to political leaders to read for them... and many political leaders simply read the script... because they DO NOT have the courage to against the group that are actually pulling those strings!!!!


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    I think the big media smear as you call it or the negative coverage of Trump was brought on by Trump himself. It has more to do with his obnoxious, rude, uncouth personality, his childish antics like name calling and throwing of temper tantrums like a spoiled 4-year-old brat along with his 3rd grade schoolyard bullying tactics. Trump very unpresidential behavior and actions brought all the negative coverage down on him. It seems the big media and most Americans expected their president to act presidential, not like some wrestler in the WWE in a pre-fight interview. It isn’t, wasn’t only big media but Americans as a whole. Trump’s personality and behavior made it very easy to dislike him. It wasn’t Trump’s policies that turned folks off as much as it was the man himself. His persona which was fit for a reality TV show, but not the Oval Office. They expected their president to behave like an adult, like a grownup, to provide the office of the presidency the dignity it deserves. Trump failed in these.


    I believe had Trump had the personality of a Reagan, a Bill Clinton or even an Obama, he would have been reelected. The dislike of most Americans and the smears as you put it are a direct result of Trump himself. His very distasteful personality, this personal political vendettas against mostly his fellow republicans, not democrats. His thirst for revenge, throw in his childish antics, his schoolyard bully tactics, you have someone very easy to dislike, someone to present negatively to the American public. The two impeachments happened, 1-6 happened, the classified documents at Mar-a-Lago happened resulting in the appointment of 2 special counsels, the indictments in Manhattan happened, the trial of E. Jean Carrol happened, more to come from Georgia and elsewhere. All happened. Reporting on these isn’t a smear, they’re a result of Trump’s own personal actions.
     
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    Your angle on this is interesting......
    which all of us can find to be encouraging IF it turns out the there is validity to the theory that President Trump may be some sort of modern political Cyrus...... who has been used like a wrecking ball to take down something so huge and so sinister that our children and grandchildren will be studying events from our time period for centuries in the future!?


    45 Thus saith the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

    2 I will go before thee, and make the crooked places straight: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and cut in sunder the bars of iron:

    3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the Lord, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.

    4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known me.

    5 I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

    6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else.

    7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

    I believe that a near death experiencer from Uganda did a great job of summarizing what is being worked out in our time period.......and The Being of Light of near death experience fame who is doing this..... doesn't particularly care if we like Trump or not????????


     
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    I would say the short answer is the American people weren’t ready for someone like Trump with his uncouth, rude personality along with his very unpresidential behavior to become president. All previous presidents had a certain decorum about them. A standard of behavior that Trump threw out the window. Trump could have met those behavior standards, acted more like folks think a president should, ceased with the name calling and bullying tactics, avoided his vengeful political attracks and more. He may have been much more successful in dismantling or attacking the deep state if he did. He could have appointed the appropriate agency and department heads, made them follow his guidelines, change the policies and the rules of the different departments and agencies, which usually go unnoticed. He could have done this with a smile on his face, walking around and looking presidential. He could of like Reagan did most of the time, let the personal attacks roll off his back without a response. No response caused for the most part those personal attacks to cease as they didn’t get the expected response. When Reagan thought the attacks were getting too personal, he’d tell a self-depreciating joke which left the attackers dumbfounded if not shell shocked, their ammo pouch empty.


    Trump’s way failed in all aspects to dismantle the deep state. His way was all rhetoric for public consumption, his very loyal base consumption, with its name calling and everything else. Trump failed to change the direction of this country one bit. Reagan did and Reagan did it quietly, mostly behind the scene, with a smile on his face behaving very presidential without the political vindictiveness for his political enemies. Reagan had no huge ego to sooth, Trump did and still has. The United States changed under Reagan to a path that would be followed up to Obama. Trump’s presidency didn’t change a thing, we’re still on the Obama path. Trump in my opinion was all hot air, hot air for his base’s consumption. Reagan left a conservative legacy, a government more on the conservative path. Trump, his legacy will be one of an egotistical blowhard that failed miserably to change the liberal path Obama instituted.
     
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    I totally agree with you that President Ronald Reagan did a phenomenal job......

    but..... now in 2023 we seem to be left with only one presidential candidate who has the courage to finish what has been began back in 2017 when he took office.

    We might even get a surprise.... and he might even take some of your advice for this time around...... perhaps he had some sort of reason for the way he did things for his first four years.....on one level... he may have wanted to be mis-underestimated?!


     
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    Ross Perot once told me, don’t listen to the political rhetoric that a candidate, party, president spouts, watch his or their actions. To be honest, Trump never started a thing in 2017. There’s nothing there for him to finish. To finish something, one first must start something. Trump was all talk, letting things go the way they always had. Trump is the master showman. He has let the impression on those who want to believe in him that he did accomplish a lot, started a lot when all he did was talk and talk some more. Mostly on Twitter where no one could ask him questions about what he said and what was actually done or accomplished when nothing was. One must remember that the 7-time party switcher adopted the political philosophy, ideology of whatever party he belonged to at the time. Trump has no political ideology of his own. He never had.


    2024 will be an election between two unwanted to become the next president if things hold as they are today. 55% of all Americans don’t want Biden to run again, 54% don’t want Trump to run again either. Questions 21 and 22.


    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/1el6dff3an/econTabReport.pdf


    Knowing most Americans don’t want neither one, why are both major parties insisting on running them? Reminds me of 2016 when 60% of all Americans disliked and didn’t want Trump, 56% disliked and didn’t want Hillary Clinton. Yet those are who both major parties choose. It seems to me both major parties are about as far out of touch with most Americans as political parties can get. Yet in our two-party system, our two major parties have a monopoly on it that other modern democracies don’t have. No viable third or fourth choice. Given a viable third choice, an even playing field, I’m certain that third choice would have won in 2016 and in 2024 given that most Americans don’t want Trump nor Biden in 2024. We don’t have that. So, one is forced to choose between two bottom of the barrel dregs that only their avid supporters want which is only a quarter to a third of the country. The 2024 winner will be the candidate the voters least want to lose. Not win, no, not win, but least want to lose when in fact most Americans want both Trump and Biden to lose. The monopoly of the two major parties prevents both from losing when that is what most Americans really want.
     
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    I have campaigned for public office four times already here in Canada.....

    www.BankingSystemFlaws.blogspot.com/

    I joined Canada's Christian Heritage Party in 2008 but I soon realized that I could NOT go along with their tendency to give political opponents zero credit.........

    CHP members seemed to criticize Prime Minister Stephen Harper mercilessly..... but I felt that was intellectually dishonest.......

    my suspicion proved to be accurate at the G-8 in 2011 where Prime Minister Stephen Harper behaved in a manner that I believe could be termed "Davidic!"

    It was like Obama was playing the role of a modern political "Goliath".... and the other G-8 leaders were like Goliath's brothers and his dad........

    and P. M. Stephen Harper stomped all seven of them..........

    and in a sense may have saved the lives of thousands if not tens of thousands of Israelis!!!!!

    I joined Canada's Liberal Party in 2009 but I felt forced to leave the Liberal Party in 2015 after P. M. Justin Trudeau took the Liberals extremely far left.......

    I joined the Liberals because I was promoting an alternative theory on stabilization of the climate quite different than Mr. Al Gore's Carbon Tax Theory.....

    www.BankingSystemsFlaws.blogspot.ca/

    I joined Canada's Conservative Party in 2016... partly in order to attempt to promote Mr. Peter MacKay for the office of national leader of the Conservatives.......

    I left Canada's Conservative Party in 2018 and joined Mr. Maxime Bernier's party..... The People's Party of Canada......

    I am still a member of the PPC and I also am a member of The New Blue Party of Ontario that is a provincial level political party......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...tephen-harper-davidic.534020/#post-1074237647

    Was Prime Minister Stephen Harper DAVIDIC?





    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...per-stands-alone-at-g8-summit/article4263322/


    DOUG SAUNDERS
    On Israel, Harper stands alone at G8 summit
    DOUG SAUNDERS
    DEAUVILLE, FRANCE
    PUBLISHED MAY 25, 2011




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    I never belonged or joined either major political party. Although I did belong to Ross Perot’s Reform Party for a while. I like being a swing voter able to decide where I stand on the issues or who to vote for without being dictated to by the party leaders and following them like mindless robots. The problem today is both major parties have become full of ideologues where a pragmatist like me that look for common sense and practicable solutions to our problems isn’t welcomed. For the ideologues from both parties, finding a solution to our hottest and most pressing issues is unwanted. Those issues have become much more valuable as campaign issues to fire up the party’s base than to be solved. Once solved those issues would go away. That’s the last thing both major parties want.
     
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