Dogs !

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  1. Blaster3

    Blaster3 Well-Known Member

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    cats have a greater olfactory and sense than dogs, the difference is cats won't allow themselves to be brainwashed by a human ;).

    anywho, majority of dog owners are rude, crude and inconsiderate, as they think it's ok to walk their pooch to someone else's property and let them pee & poo there... doesn't matter if they 'bag' the poo, they still let their pos pooch relieve itself anywhere but their own lawn.

    i chase those f****ers away, some i follow to their house and dump my cats litter box on their door step, they learn quick not to 'walk' their pos in front of my house...
     
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    Wow, you're intolerant. And I certainly do not believe those who bag the dog's poop don't let their dog poop in their own yards. We have two dogs and they mostly poop in our own yard, but when we go anywhere with them we always have poop bags with us, and we've never had anyone oppose us and our dogs' pooping when we pick it up. N E V E R.

    I think you're blustering and trying to sound all tough and intolerant, and I really doubt you dump kitty litter on anyones step.

    Yep, this all sounds like you and your attitude, but even here it's all BS.
     
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    Above, in post #22, I mentioned that we received four dogs rescued from the S. Korean meat market. The brown Chow-Chow type dog in the 3rd photo is now "Trey". He is one of the four I have been working intensively with to build trust for over 2 months. He now is excited to see me coming, greets me enthusiastically, is able to wear a collar without going full-panic, can drag a leash without full-panic (don't tug on it yet!!), and is really exceptionally sweet.

    It is going to be a very long road for him to adoptability. He will need a special person who understands there is to be NO negative reinforcement, will need patience, show respect, and know how to help him to get past his troubles so they can have the personal reward of seeing their care pay off producing a happy pet who is so deserving. Even now I already see that he is a good, good dog.

    https://www.care2.com/causes/more-t...r-dog-meat-farm-is-closed-in-south-korea.html
     
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    People who are obsessed with them worry me.
     
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    I had a crazy dog until recently. She got cancer and I had to put her to sleep. She was a little "touched in the head". Aggressively barked at every perso who wasn't her immediate family...even if said person was a regular visitor. After a bit she'd calm down and love on them but she was weird.

    One time after finally acclaimating and loving on my brother, he changed into a new set of clothes and came out of the bathroom. We were back to square one and she was again in her crate roaring away.

    A black man came to the door...and I knew she'd bark as she always does. What I didnt know was that when she saw him, she would go totally ballistic and slamming into the screen door. Scared the crap out of that guy.

    My girl was the sweetest dog to us, never bit and never showed a reflex to bite even with opportunity...but I won't be having a dog like that again.

    I'm ready for a cat.
     
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    I live next (like 100 feet) from a 20 acre very popular dog park. I remember many dogs names that go there, not many humans names.

    As far as my dogs, I have trained them for at least a month before I took them to parks. My first dog was a stray that wandered up to a house my parents were building dragging about 4-5 feet of rope. He was emaciated near death. He had been shot at least 20 times with a BB gun even in his left eye which he was blinded. I reckon some kids must have been using him as target practice while he was tied up and he broke free and ran away. Best dog I ever had. Never had to train him. I could walk down busy streets without a leash as he stayed by my side everywhere. He could climb mountains like nothing and crossed the continental divide climb in the Grand Tetons with me. He lived over 15 years with me even though he was a large Pit/Boxer mix when he finally was put down. I have a medium 35lb black mouth cur now whom is very well l behaved and socializes well since she gets to go to a great dog park every day. I can even cross busy traffic streets with her being she understands the words stay, sit etc and won't move until I say ok.
     
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    It's not obsession. It's observation. At the shelter we see this exact thing all the time. A dog dislike a person who seems pleasant and likable. Later we learn that person has a temper and a history or abusing animals or people. Things like that. Trusting your dog is wise.
     
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    That is very typical of a dog who was not adequately socialized in the first 18 months of life by exposure to lots of people who petted, cuddled, and held him/her. So the adult dog experiences fear and reacts by alerting or protecting the owner from what is feared. But then, as the owner and stranger talk calmly and the dog sees that the owner is not upset and all is well, the dog loses the fear and the "aggression" that goes with it. My neighbor's dog is like that. So when he comes running at me growling, showing teeth, and barking as he comes, I squat down and call him by name. Then he thinks "wait a minute, this guy's calling me and I'm obeying him. Maybe I shouldn't bite him." (Of course I don't know what he's "thinking" but that seems to be the result.)

    LOL!!!! YUP! You'll also find that if a stranger comes in and gradually the dog settles down and the stranger sits and talks a while, when the stranger stands to leave (however peaceful it may be) your dog will again spring into action in reaction to the change of the person standing.

    Too much "stranger" to him all at once. LOL!!!

    Awwwwww. Get a puppy too and expose it every day if you can to 5 or 10 new people and as many friendly dogs as you can. Most adult dogs recognize the innocence and vulnerability of a puppy, just like a human adult recognizes the same in a baby, and the puppy will bring out the nurturing instinct in the adult dog. But do this for it's first year and a half (I know you wouldn't be able to do this every day, but you get the idea). And you will have a well-adjusted, happy, and respectful dog. But you also need to lead on this by showing the puppy patience, approval, praise, love, and acceptance.
     
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    I appreciate what you are saying. She was a stray emaciated puppy about 4 months old when we got her. Walked in our yard begging for a family. We had a golden already and she being a puppy learned to love him. But that's it....she never knew or liked any other dog. The first time we took her into the vet at 4 months...she growled at people. Red flag eh? Once she found us, i guess all others were the enemy. She would have been better with more socializing. It is a genetic core though...my Golden never got, and never needed socializing.

    I loved my golden but swore I'd never get another because of all the infernal hair and dander.
    In truth though...We will probley end up taking the next flea bitten, skinny stray that walks in our yard.
     
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    Dogs can be psychopathic just the same as we can be. They can also be killers viz.

    "First picture of baby savaged by family’s Staffordshire Bull Terrier"

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/77848...d-way-as-parents-are-pictured-for-first-time/

    And that's just the latest such incident - and they're almost one a week here in the UK. Actually to have moronic parents who would choose a breed like them around their kids, that baby is lucky because at least he was too young to be aware of what was happening to him, nor feel the pain while it was going on?
     
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    rule the world!!!
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    most dog owners are rude & disrespectful, why... because they think it's ok to walk the pooch to other people's property & let it relieve itself on their lawns... i have personally followed them home and dumped my cats litterbox out on their porches... arrogant morons i say!!!
     
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    Oe or two pees don't turn grass brown. It takes repeated use in the same spot. Normal people don't mind if a dog poops on their lawn as long as the owner is present and picks it up. But of course if we see a sign saying to keep dogs off the lawn, we do. So put up a sign if you don't understand dogs much.
     
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    no, the dogster's should wait till their pooch poos/pees in their own yards, then take 'em for a walk around the block while keeping the leach short enough to stop the pooch from entering other people's property, period... i don't have anything against dogs, just their arrogant & inconsiderate owners that think they own the free world;)
     
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    Whatever
     
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    Difference on this dog is within the 15 years I had him, he never got angry at any animal or human once. He was as meek and submissive as they come. His name was Butch, but we jokingly called him Butchette or Welcome Wagon Butch! Because, he had to greet every person and dog that came to the dog park.
     
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    There's no doubt about it that I'd say about 15% have that indefinable and endearing charm and charisma, whereas others are just live meat, with a leg at each corner, a strange sound which emits from one end and the unspeakable from the other. A bit like humans when you think about it, which sort makes one wonder about the theory of reincarnation?
     
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    The best thing about dogs is that they are loyal and are not hypocritical.
     
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    I was once strongly opposed to religion. Eventually I concluded that it was an uninformed position that I held. So I read the bible, attended bible study courses, read recommended books, went to church, and tried to know and live the subject as believers do. I was sold. So then I remembered my plan and my need to follow it, and that meant it was time to step out of it and look at my experience objectively and draw conclusions, whatever they may be.

    Another time I had opinions about psychic readers but I also knew I was really uninformed. So I found a "church" that did psychic readings and said they taught people how to do it in a one year course. So I took the course and learned how to do psychic readings. It gave me a very new and different view of them.

    My point is that I think it is honorable and wise to learn about subjects first hand from those who are dedicated to it and know it as they do. Then review my opinions and see where it leaves me.

    You have some opinions about dogs that are as incorrect as my opinions about the bible were, and as my opinions about psychics were. And you could adjust and correct those views yourself, and do it quite enjoyably BTW. Just find a shelter, and Humane Society, or other rescue agency near you that runs dog play groups, and volunteer. Go in every week for 2 hours on Saturday or whatever day they hold play groups. And just watch and listen. Keep in mind that most of the dogs are there because they have been neglected or abused and eventually surrendered because no one could handle it after what people did to it.

    Do this every week for a year, -more if you like. You will be a changed person. Your opinions will then reflect reality and fact.
     
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    Look, just spare me the religious **** and tell me where I've got it wrong?
     
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    Some are. Especially Alsatians. :roflol:
     
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    It wasn't religious ****. It was a suggestion of an approach. And I gave you the "bottom line".
     
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    Well, I know the feeling. We have personally trapped cats and had the shelter pick them up who were scratching up our cars and pooping in the kids sand box.

    Of course we thought they were all feral cats til some kids came to the door looking for Cupcake.
     
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    I've seen all their tricks; the most common one, when their dog has done what dogs do best, is to furtively look around to see if there happens to be an observer: if negative, they'll pretend they haven't seen the mess (which is why the the dog is off-lead anyway??) and leave it there, and if the obscene deed might have been witnessed, the owner grudgingly puts the unspeakable into a plastic bag . . . then chucks it over a hedge into someone's garden asap. Typically they're anti-social, lazy, and thoroughly irresponsible; and if you don't show any interest in their four-legged obsession(s), they'll hate you for ever.
     

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