Dominion software manipulated votes -- 289K in Michigan, 96K in Georgia, lawsuits claim

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  1. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One of Powell's witnesses was 305 MIB....

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    Entire document (suggests election was hacked by China/Iran):

    https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.15.pdf
     
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    The primary was held in 2018. The law in question was passed in 2019.
     
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    You do realize that BOTH these things are bad, right?

    If you lack standing, it means you can't prove you've been harmed, can't blame it on any one, and can't get a remedy from the court.
     
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    No, lack of standing means you do not have a dog in the fight. Completely different than lack of evidence.
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You clearly didn't read or didn't understand my summary of the doctrine of laches.

    Laches means unreasonable delay in complaining about something that you knew about and could have complained about a long time ago.

    So, if you're going to complain that Pennsylvania's Act 77 is "unconstitutional", why wait until two elections have passed to complain that it's unconstitutional? If it is unconstitutional, it was just as unconstitutional when it passed - in Oct 2019. It hasn't changed.

    Due process claims failed because there were no due process violations. Period.
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    duplicate
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you don't have a dog in the fight, it means you don't have a case - you haven't suffered any harm or injury. It also means the lawyer's pretty dumb to bring a case anyway.

    Again, standing means all three of these apply:

    1. You can show that an actual injury has occurred - not just to anyone, but to the person/people filing the claim.
    2. That the injury can be traced to the person being sued.
    3. It's possible for the court to redress the injury with a favorable judgement.
     
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    The evidence may exist but the petitioner is bringing it without standing.
     
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    I know it's a statute. That's why it's called ACT 77.

    The contention was that the legislature violated the PA Constitution by passing it. That is, like I said, that Act 77 is unconstitutional. And, like I said, if they thought so they could have said so back in Oct 2019, or thereabouts. Or rather, more particularly, as the judges said.
     
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    As Tim Pool explains the Democratic party will not survive without Donald Trump.

     
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    If the evidence exists and they lack standing, then it's because someone else is the injured party. And that person should file the suit, provided that they also have a person they can hold responsible, and the likelihood that the court can award a remedy.

    OR... they may lack standing because of a lack of evidence - insufficient to prove an injury.
     
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    One cannot bring a lawsuit until damages have occurred.
     
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    Primaries were held in 2020.
     
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    Not so. A constitutional challenge can be an actual or threatened harm. But don't take it from me. The PA Supreme Court panel - which would have had jurisdiction -stated very explicitly in their opinion that they could have done so.
     
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    The PA primary was held in June 2020.
     
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    Your “summary” is a crock. Was ObamaCare subject to your “doctrine of laches” when it was ruled unconstitutional just last year? Oopsie! Did I just produce a legal precedent to counter your silly argument? :cynic:

    https://www.texasattorneygeneral.go...ional-remands-district-court-determine-if-any
     
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    No Republicans challenged Trump for the Presidency this year. This is why no Republicans complained about the constitutionality of Act 77, which is just a statute anyway, not an amendment.
     
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    You are correct but the damages happened this election.
     
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    Damages resulting from the actions that the same party that approved those changes in the first place? GOP should basically be suing themselves lol! AS I have previously stated, GOP could have still sued if they can show imminent harm. They do not have to have suffered harm to have standing.
     
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    So Republicans are fine and dandy with an unconstitutional law so long as it doesn't harm Trump?
     
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    Why would the GOP sue for damages resulting from the primary if no one else was running for the presidency on the Republican side during the primary?
     
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    There was no reason to suspect any unconstitutionality in the statute when Trump was the only Republican candidate in the primary this past summer.
     
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    But mail in ballots were used in in the 2020 primary that included other republican candidates running for other districts correct? If it was constitutional in June 2020 when other republicans were on the ticket, why is it unconstitutional now? Because Trump lost?
     
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    Because it’s obvious that the presidential votes were the ones being targeted. This is why the Dominion voting machines should be specifically investigated by independent cybercrimes investigators, most notably their Internet history, IP addresses via proxy servers, thumb drive usage, etc. Event Viewer is a simple and wonderful tool for just such a thing.


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.te...lash-drive-usage-in-windows-10s-event-viewer/
     
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    What do you mean the presidential votes were targeted? I'm not sure why you keep bringing up Dominion voting machines as that has zero to do with lawsuit that was filed.
     
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