Don gets a pass...........for everything. One could argue it began here.

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  1. Lee Atwater

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    ‘Mother Is Not Going to Like This’: The 48 Hours That Almost Brought Down Trump

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...-carnage-excerpt-access-hollywood-tape-227269

    The article is about the Access Hollywood tape's outing and the fallout that ensued. The initial reaction among virtually everyone, including GOP principles........Don was toast. It was unusual for a candidate who had been divorced at all.....let alone twice.... to come this far. It was unheard of for someone to have declared multiple bankruptcies, have no prior interest or experience in governance, cheated dozens if not hundreds of contractors, used a fundamentally racist accusation aimed at Obama questioning his citizenship to gain notoriety, and been credibly accused by two dozen women of sexual abuse..........to come this far. His denials of that abuse would now surely ring hollow in light of an audio tape on which he admitted to repeatedly groping women, including grabbing their vajayjays. Nobody survives that, right?

    But Don did. He survives things every week that would normally doom any candidate or any politician in office. This week alone there is the scandal involving Epstein which puts a spotlight on Don's prior relationship with him as well as his choice of Alex Acosta (calls for his resignation are getting louder) to be labor secretary. There is the continuing saga of the citizenship question, the admin's lies to get it on the census form, and the efforts to circumvent the SC ruling against the admin citing the "contrived" nature of their rationale for adding it. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/muckraker/census-doj-legal-team-shake-up-blocked-new-york
    There are the ridiculous lies Don told about his environmental record in an attempt to make his actual record less of a liability due to voter's increasing concern about global warming. There is the escalating feud between Baby Donald and the British ambassador over the leak of honest, humiliating assessments of Don's idiocy meant to remain private. And, there is an avalanche of horrible, gut wrenching stories about abuses suffered by detained illegal immigrants due to squalid, inhumane conditions at detention centers.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/video/condi...nters-will-be-focus-of-congressional-hearing/

    While on a recent trip to Scotland I was questioned by people I met from around the world about why Don's supporters stick with him. I had no answers. It is beyond my comprehension. Multiple scandals, displays of incompetence, examples of corruption, evidence of criminal behavior, associations with criminals, boorish, juvenile behavior...........make absolutely no difference to Trumpers. None. They excuse it all away with a combination of false equivalences, denials, refusals to accept objective reality, and by choosing to believe the words and tweets of a proven, pathological liar.

    Their reaction to this post will be no different.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ever been to Scotland? I have. Scotland has turned into a left wing haven for snowflakes.
     
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    Probably because what the left puts out is misleading and most people realize it.

    His companies have declared bankruptcies. He bought property at a low price because they were in trouble. He then decides how to best make a profit out of it. One of those options is bankruptcy. And admittedly some of his other deals have gone bankrupt.

    I know you don't think he has done well because much of what he has was inherited from his father. However, when a person inherits millions and ends up a billionaire, he is not doing badly at all.
     
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    I've been to Ireland Spain Canada and Germany all in the last 12 months. Also, subway, dennys, chili's, etc... funny thing is not a single effing person ask me a single effing question about American politics.

    It's my opinion that only about 2-3% of the people out there give a **** and for some reason certain people want to listen to them.

    Stick them at the end of the bar with the town drunk where they belong
     
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    He's back. I would think it must be frustrating to create hundreds of threads all claiming this will or should have brought down a POTUS all of which have turned out to be nothingburgers.
     
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    True, I was never asked but the mentality is very government nanny state focused.
     
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    Pardon me for giving myself credit for prescience.

    "They excuse it all away with a combination of false equivalences, denials, refusals to accept objective reality, and by choosing to believe the words and tweets of a proven, pathological liar. Their reaction to this post will be no different."

    So.........the misguided perception you have of his success as a businessman excuses everything I mentioned and hundreds more examples. He's a billionaire so the suffering of immigrants he is responsible for doesn't matter? He's rich so not firing Acosta is justified? Got it.
    The Trump Taj Mahal casino sold for 4 cents on the dollar — here's how Trump bankrupted it twice
    https://www.businessinsider.com/how-trump-bankrupted-the-taj-mahal-2017-5
     
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    I just gave one example of your misleading OP. You have not disproved any of it.
     
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    Ah , obama was an admitted doper . Coke and weeds. Did u care ?
     
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    Please explain to me why locker room braggadocio - the only thing Trump ever said that you bothered to believe - should be a disqualifier for president.
     
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    Actually, you chose to single out one thing you took exception to and then failed to prove how it was wrong while ignoring the facts
    https://www.businessinsider.com/how-trump-bankrupted-the-taj-mahal-2017-5
    and declining to respond to the substance of the post (by making a false accusation)............as always.
     
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    You are such a rabid anti trumpster I see no point in trying to have a rational discussion with you

    You’ve made up your mind and nothing I say will change it
     
  13. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Banned Donor

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    Lots of people experiment with drugs in their youth. What does that have to do with you not caring about Don's duplicitous efforts with regards to the citizenship question?
     
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    Lot's of successful business men have bankruptcies. Trump has had very few compared to all the companies he owns.
     
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    Far more these days than in previous generations

    And the younger the experimentation is to more harm it can cause
     
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    The tape, a boasting admission of past criminal behavior, lends even more credence to the already credible accounts of almost two dozen women who say Don sexually abused them. Political observers of all stripes were amazed it did not sink Don's candidacy. It was the first glimpse of how much deviant behavior "the base" would give Don a pass for.
    Now, scandals of all kinds have become so commonplace as to be normalized to the point when no one in "the base" is bothered by revelations of obscene abuses taking place every day in detention centers. The direct consequence of Don's inhumane policy towards immigrants trying to cross the border. You have become, to coin a phrase, comfortably numb...........while the rest of humanity is outraged.
     
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    What does that have to do with you not caring about Don's duplicitous efforts with regards to the citizenship question?
     
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    There was no boasting of criminal behavior the word 'let' in the sentence implies consent. And again it is locker Room bragodocio which apparently only leftists are stupid enough to believe..
     
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    Your headline and opening post say nothing about a citizenship question on the census

    Are you now trying to derail your own thread?
     
  20. Lee Atwater

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    See paragraph two.
     
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    So.........wait.........hold it........are you saying you believe these women "let" Don grab them by the p*ssy!!!!!!!!?????????? Cuz that would explain a lot.
     
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    And on the 7th day, God said, "just grab them by the *****"
     
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    Yes, buried there among the other anti trump rantings

    But you touched on so many topics its too late to chomp down on the-census-and-only-the-census now
     
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    NO I'm saying I don't think it ever happened to begin with. It is locker room crap only an idiot believes any of it. Hell even the way he phrased it makes it doubtful that it ever actually happened.
     
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    Sounds like the Teflon Don mantle was passed.
     
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