Don to despots......you can kill journalists if you buy our weapons.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And oh.......by the way.......send more letters.........I love you guys.
     
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    That's quite a long time that Saudi are harsh people. You're waking up now ? And what you want to do ? Bomb Riyad ?
     
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    You mean "kill them WITH our weapons" ... Drones. Why dick around with hit squads? Obama just pushed a button ... in Pakistan ... in Turkey ... whenever, wherever. Obama didn't apologize for summary executions of "states enemies" ... it's the only "American atrocity" he wouldn't apologize for no matter how many civilians were killed. "Clean hands doctrine" ... Kheshoggi's social circle and family background reeks of terrorism.
     
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    He would prefer that the Saudis buy Russian weapons. They will buy weapons It is only a matter of where.
     
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    Unfortunately, there is nothing possible to do. That's very annoying because he was an U.S citizen, and you can't let foreign countries kill your own citizen, it's a matter of credibility.

    Anyway, the biggest worry of the american people is jobs and economical growth. They will end to forget this guy, probably most people never heard of them, so for a politician it's much more profitable to focus on economical growth and so keeping good commercial and diplomatic relationship with Saudi Arabia than risking a conflict.

    It's quite sad, in a way this guy death will stay unpunished in the name of economy.
     
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    It is more than just the economy. Do you want the Saudis to have closer ties to the Russians?
     
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    Or the chinese. The old man De Gaulle said something quite accurate. "Nation have no friends, only interest". From the political point of view, it's true, it's less true on a more individual level.
     
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    The justification machine is in gear I see.
     
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    It is called reality.
     
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    It's your reality...not mine.

    Killing journalists is a big deal...and a dangerous thing for Democracy
     
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    What do you think should be done as regards the weapons? Then explain why that is a better solution long term.
     
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    There are a lot of things that can be done diplomatically.

    If there is the will to do them and they START with calling this what it was. State sanctioned murder
     
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    Not an adequate answer. The question was in regards to the weapons.
     
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    Sorry it didn't satisfy you...but then satisfying you has never been my goal
     
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    I agree that it is horrible and something must be done diplomatically. The thread was about the weapons. You are completely ignoring the subject.
     
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    The point is that Trump is using these weapons sales to avoid angering his buddies.

    Keep up
     
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    Absolutely

    We need Saudi Arabia on our side
     
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    What would you do about the weapons? Sell them US weapons or force them into buying weapons from Russia or China? It is really a very simple question. Unless you have some other miraculous solution, it is one or the other.

    It would be really terrible to admit that Trump was correct on this one point.
     
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    Is it more horrible than Stalin killing millions of his own people before WWII?

    Yet we still made friends with him
     
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    We can LEVERAGE those weapons as well as other diplomatic moves.

    SA does not want to buy second rate weapons from Russia or fall under Chinese influence.

    Trump is using these weapons sales as an excuse for doing nothing
     
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    How friendly were we with them in 1946?
     
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    Whats wrong ? Dems feelibg the need to bomb someone...?
     
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    Not so much since we no longer need each other and we were now enemies again

    That is not the case with SA however at this time
     
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    What should he do ?
     
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    Nothing

    This is none of America’s business
     

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