Don to despots......you can kill journalists if you buy our weapons.

And that's why the US can close its eyes and do nothing against such crimes ... that they would not allow anyone else except maybe Israel?

 

Murder is a crime, and this crime did not take place within US jurisdiction. You purposely ignored the first 2 sentences. Turkish / Interpol authorities need to arrest and interrogate the suspects. The US can extradite the prime suspects. No blind eyes are involved in prosecuting crimes in accordance with international laws. This is not a US diplomatic matter. It's murder on foreign soil.

 

Easy question:

If an oppositional Russian journalist visits the Russian embassy in France and does not leave it alive ... what will the US do after that?
Trump lets his fingers on his smart phone in Twitter again and it follows the usual Donald **** Storm ... and violent reactions of the Resltichen politics and media in the US! Correctly?

But here we are dealing with Saudi Arabia, the important friend and ally in the region and there we keep our faces and say nothing to annoy the friends! That's what I call hypocrisy!

 

Didn't read vapid thread. What does the alleged murder of a foreign journalist have to do with U.S. arms sales? Nothing.

 

Reduced to hypotheticals? Ignored. Here's what's coming out. Saudi's say "interrogation gone bad". Kheshoggi suspected of what? 'Course Saudi's could claim it was a botched attempt to emulate Team USA waterboard challenge ... hypothetically. Kheshoggi reeks of terrorism, and even US journos who support terrorism, or engage in espionage are not immune from state reprisal.

 

Meeting quota's sometimes requires throwing anything out.

 

He was a free speech advocate...which was why he was killed

 

And then you will believe what Saudis tell in gods sake out of the reason not to annoy the Saudis with evil questions and bad statements about such a crime.... which you never will allow anyone else, except Israel maybe!

 

So far as i investigated about him in net ... Correct ... but he had the wrong citizenship and had tried it in the wrong country.
If he had been Iranian and had the Iranians done the same as the Saudis here ... the US had already unleashed an international **** Storm against the mullahs.
But unfortunately, the Saudis have their noses very deep in the butt of Uncle Sam in it ... or Uncle Sam's nose very deep in the butt of the Saudis, because you do not do something and ignored something or comes with lousy apologies, allegations or justifications .. ,

 

Newsflash ... I don't involve or concern myself in Saudi / Israeli politics, or atrocities that do not directly concern US security. The ME's moderate regimes are as equally barbaric as the radicalist regimes. No matter the circumstances of Kheshoggi's death, it's just another day in Istanbul, no different than any other there, or 1000's of other ME destinations. This does not involve any US agency or policy, unless and until the DOJ requests extradition. Israeli strawmen can't help you.

 

Talk is cheap.Saudis have a big card to play.The global economy would feel the pain.

Saudi Arabia Breaks 45-Year Taboo With Veiled Threat to Use Oil as a Weapon

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...t-boosts-oil-prices-already-moving-toward-100

 

I dont know about that

But its still none of our business

 

What action is your country going to take?

 

Hmmm, So by that logic, anyone who leaves the US automatically loses all rights they have under US law.

He was likely at the embassy trying to talk to the ambassador. He did this alot during his work pushing for human rights.

 

Says the people on Iran's tit.

 

I don't think there is so much a fall of the U.S. as there is a rise of the extreme right. There is, of course, a big snag that the U.S. has hit. I don't know if we can recover or not. But there is nobody who could take the torch from us. China is in a perpetual financial crisis. The EU's future is uncertain. No other economy in the world would challenge us.

The only thing we have against us is Trump. He's the biggest threat to the U.S. I trust we Americans will come back to our senses and hand him a big loss. Mostly in 2020.

 

I'm not saying the USA are becoming irrelevant, I'm saying that the USA is not anymore the "king" of the world. The USA stay very powerfull, even if its diplomatic and economical power lowered a lot, there is still hollywood. Not at my biggest joy. Hollywood is one of the biggest tool of american might.

About Trump, I don't know. I think that Georges W.Bush was probably the one who damaged the image of the USA the most.

 

Google to China: You can kill millions of your own people if you buy our browser.

 

With friends like these, who needs enemies? First 9/11, then killing one of our journalists.

 

Dirty Donald is protecting his own financial interests.He has by his own admission made hundreds of millions off the Saudis,they are the leading spenders in his Washington hotel.

 

Besides Trump's enchantment with autocrats there is another facet to all this.

Is there a pattern here? “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million,” Trump once told a crowd at an Alabama rally during the election campaign.

In 2001, Trump sold the entire 45th floor of the Trump World Tower across from the United Nations in New York for $12 million, the biggest purchase in that building to that point, according to the brokerage site Streeteasy. The buyer: The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

"For the record, I have no financial interests in Saudi Arabia (or Russia, for that matter). Any suggestion that I have is just more FAKE NEWS (of which there is plenty)!" Trump tweeted today.

He does not have financial interests in Saudi Arabia, but he has deep Saudi financial interests in the United States. A Saudi billionaire, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, purchased his yacht from Trump and a stake in New York's Plaza Hotel in the 1990s bailing out Trump from financial distress. A public relations firm working for the kingdom spent nearly $270,000 on lodging and catering at his Washington hotel near the Oval Office through March of last year, according to filings to the Justice Department. That is in addition to the financial interests already described.

So, it is no surprise that Trump first tried this ludicrous gambit to protect the king and the crown prince. “The king firmly denied any knowledge of it. I don't want to get into (Salman’s) mind,” but he added, “it sounded to me like maybe these could have been rogue killers."

Yeah, right. That went over like a lead balloon.

Now he says, "And it depends whether or not the King [Salman] or Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman knew about it, in my opinion. Number one, what happened, but whether or not they knew about it." No doubt, the king and the crown prince will deny knowing anything about the murder beforehand. Trump can determine whether or not they are being truthful and he will respond accordingly. Reader can decide what that means in light of Trump's financial interests.

"Here we go again with you're guilty until proven innocent," Trump said in an interview today.

In July, a federal judge rejected Trump’s latest effort to stop a lawsuit that alleges Trump is violating the Constitution by continuing to do business with foreign governments.

Is there any doubt that Trump's financial interests have an impact on his judgment concerning foreign governments like Saudi Arabia?

 

The obligatory Republicans are speaking up on cue concerning the murder of the Washington Post journalist.

Senator Bob Corker has said, "If it's found that they, as everything indicates today ... murdered a journalist, that will hugely change our relationship. I mean, there's no question about it," Corker told reporters, adding, "I think they did it and I think, unfortunately, he's deceased."

Senator Lindsey Graham stated, “I’m not going back to Saudi Arabia as long as this guy is in charge,” Graham said of bin Salman. “I’ve been their biggest defender on the floor of the United States Senate. This guy is a wrecking ball. He had [Khashoggi] murdered in a consulate in Turkey and to expect me to ignore it, I feel used and abused. The MBS figure is to me toxic, he can never be a world leader on the world stage.”

Senator Marco Rubio made this contribution for the cause. "I don't care how much money it is. There isn't enough money in the world to purchase back our credibility on human rights and the way nations should conduct themselves."

This is strictly for public consumption to give gullible Americans the impression the GOP is on their side. This has all happened before, several times, especially when Trump steps on it. It happened after Trump's bigoted remarks after Charlottesville. It happened after Singapore when Trump gushed about Kim after giving away the ranch and getting nothing in return. It happened after Trump's incredulous comments at Helsinki when he declined American intelligence and accepted the word of a communist dictator because he sounded sincere. Prominent Republicans object. Nothing changes.

This showy performance by Rubio, Graham, and Corker does not mean a damn thing. The GOP leadership will do what it has always done in the past. It will put a rubber stamp on whatever Trump decides to do, no matter how self-serving his decision may be, and Trump's business connections to the Saudis will be swept under the rug.

American voters will lift up that rug and vote accordingly on Nov. 6. Maybe they will think something is wrong if American foreign policy is being bought by the Saudis. They will be watching Trump closely.

 

The arab jihadi was not one of “our” journalists

Alliances are based on geo politics not popularity contests

The Saudi royal family needs America and America needs them

 

You are deluded.Your economic decline has been going on for decades.It's obvious that you are younger and don"t remember the times when the U.S middle class was strong and the quality of life admired by many.That changed long before Trump took over.And the destruction of the U.S middle class is probably the main reason Trump is the president.

 

Agreed

The washington crowd are globalists who do not care if the American middle class suffers as long as they are not blamed for it

But trump came along and he is blaming the washington politicians