Donald Trump distances himself from 'send her back' chants against Ilhan Omar at rally

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    So it was too far over your head. Sorry will try harder next time!
     
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    Nice to have an honest racist on the forum.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What are you blaming me for? It was ole Joe Bite_me who called Obama “first mainstream, clean-shaven, articulate African American.

    You’ve stepped right into my masterfully laid down trap, did not you? :D
     
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    Then why were many responsible for getting sections of the wall that is up already.
    But offer proof to show people an the left is effectively for open borders. Don't just talk.
     
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    Well, all you have is making stuff up you think others believe. That falls into the intentional untruth category.
     
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    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What would you consider valid proof? I mentioned the existence of sanctuary cities -- what do you think about them?
     
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    Sanctuary cities are just that, cities.
    Churches also offer sanctuary. Since most R's are christian, does that mean Rs are for open borders? Of course not. So cities offering sanctuary doesn't make Ds for open borders.
    I also showed you, D's have sponsored and put up money to build section of walls already in place. And yet you think because a few cities offer sanctuary that makes Ds for open borders.
    What would be proof is someone providing action that they want no border control in any way shape or form. That is the definition of open borders.
     
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    I am sure that there is no one alive who believes in 'no border control in any way, shape or form', with the exception perhaps of our Libertarian friends -- the same people who think it would be a good idea to auction off Yosemite. What there are, are people who believe that if someone slips into the United States illegally, that person should receive 'sanctuary' in their city. These people are liberals.

    If Republican-dominated Christian churches are offering sanctuary to illegal aliens, it's news to me. But maybe they are -- I would like to see some evidence of it. Otherwise, it's just an interesting linguistic coincidence, a curious custom from the Middle Ages. And a closer examination of this custom shows that it's not quite what people who use the word casually today think it is. It seems to have been something resorted to by people who killed others in a dispute, and then sought refuge from the victim's friends, or sometimes the losers of a battle fleeing the vengeance of the victors.

    (My emphasis.) [ SOURCE ] Whoops!!! Better not let those hard-hearted Republican Christians read that, or they might indeed start offering "sanctuary"!

    To be honest, I don't really understand your argument. Are you saying that protecting illegal aliens from being apprehended by the immigration authorities is ... an example of opposing open borders? I just don't follow that logic. It reminds me of that opening scene in The Godfather, when he agrees to avenge the rape of a supplicant's daughter. After the grieving father leaves, the Godfather arranges for vengeance to be taken ... but the rapists aren't to be killed, because "we're not murderers"! O....kay.....
     
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    More intellectual dishonesty on your part. In the first place quotes are put in quotation marks and in the second post you left off the word " President" . Your masterly laid trap is only proof of your dishonesty.

    Nice try though.
     
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    My argument? You don't understand?
    My point is, D's, the D party, are not for open borders as you've been trying to claim.
    And your only proof to D party being for open borders is sanctuary cities. Why are the cities offering sanctuary? To keep families together? I doubt they protect known criminals. So each city offering is being kind, I don't think that means they are for open borders either, just not the gestapo type enforcement being done by ICE. But one would have to research each city and see what their public statements are.

    Having said that, I think there is 1 candidate on the D primary run for prez that has stated he is for open borders. I don't know who that is off the top of my head.
    That, AFAIK, is the only 1 publicly in support of open borders. I am sure there may be a few more, but that is in no way a party platform policy.

    I don't even know what an open border policy would be as you don't know either. So, why make up that claim?
     
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    "If you can get across the border, we'll help you escape law enforcement." To me, that is being for open borders.

    Consider this: there are anti-abortion activists who from time to time, murder abortion providers. Suppose I announced that if anyone kills an abortion provider, I will help them hide from the police. Isn't that as close as dammit to being in favor of killing abortion providers?
     

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