Donald Trump is irrelevant and gasping as BLM movement goes international and steals his oxygen

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    Really? People are bragging that an anti American terrorist group is expanding? Holy crap democrats really do hate this country and anyone who believes we are a good nation.
     
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    Dems are still working the 'angles' in order to keep their plantations stocked with slaves.
     
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    they were killed during the protests of bad cops, thus the bad cops actions set this in motion
     
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    Repubs still see them as slaves?

    how about seeing all Americans as just fellow Americans, were all in this together
     
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    Please clarify what you meant by the "One, by the name of Floyd, is even smaller." remark, which I misinterpreted.

    Hopefully any person of any race will be far more likely to be killed by just about any group than the police, the police are not supposed to be killing us
     
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    No, we simply don't demonize anyone we don't like as "terrorists"
     
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    You just demonize anyone who disagrees with you.
     
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    YUP, All Lives Matter ALM
     
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    I am sure that all fifteen of their families find comfort in that.
    Fifteen died because one man was killed by the police.
    A few facts. Blacks are killed by other blacks about six times as often as whites are killed by whites. Blacks are killed by other blacks about fifty times as often as they are killed by the police. Just about everyone of those killed by the police was after they resisted or failed to comply with police instructions. Notice that in every one of those cases, the blacks made a choice. They made a choice to kill other blacks and they chose to resist or failed to follow instructions by the police.

    The blacks could stop most of their unnecessary deaths by simply cleaning up their own act.
     
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    Question for you - why do you think that the black on black crime is so high?
     
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    Single parent families which tend to foster gangs and lawlessness. People like Jesse Jackson and others who fail to address the real problem and demonize the police instead. I am sure there are a multitude of reasons, none of which are the root cause.
     
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    So the root cause is single parent families? As of 2018, there were 8,526,000 white single parent families - 24% of the single parent families. Why doesn't that number translate into gangs and lawlessness?
    https://datacenter.kidscount.org/da...36,868,867,133,38/10,11,9,12,1,185,13/432,431
     
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    24% means that over three quarters of them are not white when whites make up the majority of the people.

    Are you sure it doesn't? One person working for a living and no one else to watch the kids is not very conducive to raising a good family. Like I said there are likely a multitude of reasons.

    For all practical purposes, I grew up in a single parent home. My father passed away a few days before I was born. My mother remarried when I was thirteen, but I am not sure he was that good an influence. However, my Mom would have knocked the crap out of me, if I did anything really bad. I also had three older brothers who kept me under control.
     
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    Yes, a multitude of reasons. But you stated that none of them are the root cause. So, then, what is the root cause in your mind?
     
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    Who do we call terrorists?
     
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    Apparently you are wanting me to come up with an answer you agree with. Lets simplify the process by you stating what you want to hear.
     
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    So, as i thought, 100% ignoring the violent acts of BLM? OK, have fun with that.
     
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    Actually, no, I'm not. But because I keep reading about black on black crime, I'm interested to understand why people think this is so prevalent. We can't solve anything unless we understand the root causes.

    My view is that it has a lot to do with systemic racism - but I know you likely will balk at that answer. But it is simply a fact that poorer black neighborhoods have less likelihood of providing good quality education or financial assistance. That creates a breeding ground of hopelessness for families and kids. Hard to climb out of something like that...
     
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    The reason we think it is so ;prevalent is because it is happening.
    That is a variation of what I expected you to say. It is deeper than that. I have a number of teachers in the family and teachers who are friends. They refuse to teach in a predominately black school because they tend to be more disruptive and to put it bluntly, they are afraid. You have more black who drop out of school which means they are more likely to get a poorly paid job.

    It is a bit like the controversy over which came first, the chicken or the egg. You have single parent households with poor parental supervision and children who drop out of school. The results are destined to be bad. You end up with poor neighborhoods which the poor people tend to congregate in which tend to be black. I can't make it better. Black leadership could, but they would rather blame the police and whitey. It is a vicious circle which is never going to end until someone or a lot of someone's make it happen.
     
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    So if good teachers are refusing to work in these schools, we are seeing the resulting poor education. And drop out rate. Contributing to the poor status within communities.

    Instead of blaming single parent homes (as I've pointed out it is high in white families as well), why not put together programs that will assist these families? When that is done, society as a whole benefits. More consumers and banking customers are added.

    I am interested in why it would take Black leadership to do something. Why can't any leadership do this?
     
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    Single family homes is 24% among white families and 65% among black families. Not every single family home has bad results, but it increases the odds. There are already programs out there. They are called free schools, but you actually have to put out the effort. The problem is deeper than just providing programs, you have to change the culture as well and black leaders are not doing that.

    There are also "good" reasons and "bad" reasons for single family homes. Sometimes one of the parents passes away or sometimes divorce is the best option. However, when a male sires a child and then just walks away, the child will realize this and will tend to repeat the pattern.
    https://datacenter.kidscount.org/da...36,868,867,133,38/10,11,9,12,1,185,13/432,431
     
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    Numbers, thuggery and the failed game plan of the Democrat party..
     
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    We cant! Stop electing Democrats and things will change from dependence to independence!
     
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    BLM is actually against families.

    "We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable."
     
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