Don't Look For This Anniversary in MSM

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  1. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Quick, who attacked America 52 years ago today?

    The average reader can be excused for not knowing that 52 years ago, today, Israel deliberately attacked America's one-of-a-kind USS Liberty massacring 34 American G.I.s & wounding 174 as America's blatantly pro Israel MSM blackout has been almost as thorough as the Israeli inspired cover-up.

    No reasonable person believes that a sophisticated military power would accidentally deploy unmarked fighter jets to accidentally attack a clearly flagged, clearly marked ship as unique as the Liberty.
    That same reasonable person would also note that strafing lowered life rafts & targeting rescue personnel is not only a war crime and entirely indicative of a deliberate attack.

    Israel's deliberate attack on America's USS Liberty is not just an isolated betrayal like the Lavon Affair before it but in many ways exemplifies the true nature of the one sided US - Israel "alliance" as severely detrimental to the U.S. to the point of being suicidal.

    If the US is to remain deeply embroiled on war footing in the volatile Mid East, America desperately needs & deserves better allies than one that reciprocates American largesse with a criminal stab in the back & continues to do so.


    "52nd Anniversary of Israel’s Attack on the USS Liberty"
    https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.co...versary-of-israels-attack-on-the-uss-liberty/

    EXCERPT "It was 52 years ago today that Israel attacked the USS Liberty, killing 34 American sailors and wounding 174, yet the US government coverup persists."CONTINUED
     
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  2. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hallo, Grau!! I'm back! Someone sent me this video, and if you don't mind, I will post it here in your thread.;)
    Here is a great video with interviews from survivors about...

    "The Day Israel Attacked America"


    The "Liberty" was an American spy ship, full of classified information. Being under attack they started immediately to destroy all their gathered information, so it wouldn't fall into enemy hands. Apparently, they didn't know that it was a close ally who attacked and killed 34 sailors and wounding close to 180. One survivor says, there was blood running everywhere!
    Listen to it here:
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51731.htm
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    WHY did Israel do this?
    They wanted to pretend Egypt had done the attack and the USA would then join Israel in attacking Egypt. Simple as that!
    As it turned out, they won the 6-day war anyway.

    All is good now. The USA never retaliated or asked for reparations. The friendship between Israel and the US has actually deepened so much though, one cannot tell who is in charge of the American foreign policy. Like trained dogs, the Americans run and destroy almost seven countries on behalf of Israel.
    Not being an American, I find this very strange. The Germans got accused as having been so docile and allowing Hitler to come to power. I say, that is nothing compared to the docility of the American people!!
    Nevertheless, I feel sorry for the American sailors who had no way of defending themselves, nor being able to get away... they even were shot at trying to climb into their life boats!
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ah, the old "Jews stabbed us in the back" farse.

    worked well for Hitler, even though it was a total lie
     
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    Gulf of Tonkin, redux.
     
  5. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Israel's deliberate attack on the USS Liberty is just one of many betrayals of the US by the Israeli government and no lie.

    Your attempts to conflate justified condemnation of the Israeli government with "the Jews" are as fraudulent as they are pathetic.
     
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    Another Hate Israel thread.. While Islamo Jihado Arabos are the cause for most violence and hatred in the world .. :sleepy:
     
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    Nothing but propaganda from the West! Don't believe everything they tell you... they are demonizing the Arabs on purpose.
     
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    A USS Liberty’s Hero’s Passing
    Terry Halbardier, who as a 23-year old seaman in 1967 thwarted Israeli attempts to sink the USS Liberty, died on Aug. 11 in Visalia, California. It took the U.S. government 42 years after the attack to recognize Halbardier’s heroism by awarding him the Silver Star, a delay explained by Washington’s determination to downplay Israeli responsibility for the 34 Americans killed and the 174 wounded.

    This American spy ship which had been monitoring Israeli transmissions about the conflict. Intercepted Israeli communications indicated that the goal was to sink the Liberty and leave no survivors.
    Warplanes and torpedo boats had already killed 34 and wounded 174, when Halbardier slid over the Liberty’s napalm-glazed deck to jury-rig an antenna and get an SOS off to the Sixth Fleet. The Israelis intercepted the SOS and broke off the attack immediately. In effect, Halbardier prevented the massacre of all 294 onboard.

    No Mistake
    Despite Israeli protestations, the accumulated evidence, including intercepted voice communications, is such that no serious observer believes Israel’s “Oops” excuse of a terrible mistake. The following exchanges are excerpts of testimony from U.S. military and diplomatic officials given to Alison Weir, founder of “If Americans Knew” and author of American Media Miss the Boat:

    Israeli pilot to ground control: “This is an American ship. Do you still want us to attack?”

    Ground control: “Yes, follow orders.”

    “But sir, it’s an American ship, I can see the flag!”

    Ground control: “Never mind; hit it!”


    Read the full story here:
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/06/no_author/a-uss-libertys-heros-passing/
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    Until today I have never read the entire story and am truly shocked.
     
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    sorry but when folks aggressively and obsessively attack Israel AND deny the Holocaust AND attack Judaism, anti-Semitism is clearly at play.

    you can attempt to deny this, but its silly to do so
     
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    When the only tool you've got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

    When the only rhetorical tool you've got is howling "anti Semite", everyone is an "anti Semite".
     
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    except I don't use the term "anti-Semitism" lightly.

    I only apply it when its legit.

    Reasonable criticism of Israel and Zionism is NOT anti-Semitism.

    denying the Holocaust, accusing the Jews of massive fraud, attacking Judaism and obsessively attacking Israel IS anti-Semitism.

    go ahead and deny it, nobody cares
     
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    But I care! When my ancestors get accused of having gassed 6 + million Jews during WWII, I want to know for sure that it is the truth.
    Until the late 90s I had accepted the holocaust as presented and didn't care... I knew nothing of a mass murder of Jews, although I grew up in Germany during the war.
    As it happened, six decades later I found in the library a little book, called "The Hoax of the 20th Century", written by Arthur Butz. THAT was earth shattering!!
    I had to keep finding more evidence that we Germans had been wrongly accused.

    As you know, there is tons of evidence that it did not happen the way it has been lectured to us. Whom should I believe?
     
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    well anyone who tells you 6 million Jews were gassed by the Germans during world war II is a liar and a bigoted idiot.

    only a couple million Jews were gassed to death the rest were starved, beaten, died of disease or were shot to death
     
  14. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're right, nobody cares about your relentless accusations of anti Semitism & other slanderous accusations.


    “An antisemite used to be someone who hates Jews; nowadays an antisemite is someone Jews hate.”

    - Gilad Atzmon, Jewish musician and author, 2011
     
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    so you're saying anti-Semitism no longer exists?

    tell that to the 11 Jews murdered in a Pittburgh synagogue last year.

    tell that to the Jews of France who are constantly attacked and harrassed.
     
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    Tell the Israelis to stay within their borders and stop killing their neighbors and stealing their land.
     
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    what do American and French Jews have to do with the actions of Israel??

    are you saying its fair to punish the Jews of Europe and the USA for Israel's misdeeds?
     
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    You continue to deliberately spout slanderous nonsense, distort what I do say and accuse me of saying things I've never said.

    No, I have never said that anti Semitism doesn't exist.

    Every ethnic group, religious denomination and nationality has within it individuals who hold an irrational hatred of those who are different.

    Like the proverbial little boy who cried "Wolf!", I am simply asserting that crying "anti Semitism" repeatedly, fraudulently, & incessantly has rendered the term virtually meaningless.

    Yes, it goes without saying that the murder of 11 Jews in Pittsburgh was a reprehensible & senseless act for which there is no excuse.

    The bullying & harassment of Jews simply because they are Jewish anywhere is just as inexcusable as is the bullying and harassment of any ethnic or religious group.

    Finally, you seem to be under the impression that Jews are only victims & never the victimizers.

    I feel that I can say with some certainty that the root of much of the world's genuine anti Semitism is the decades old, murderous Occupation of historic Palestine where, within a matter of a few years, Europe's Jewish victims very quickly became among the region's most ruthless victimizers.
     
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    nothing more than your opinion

    good thing I dont do that

    nothing could be further from the truth
     
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    No, that is not what I was saying!
    They are all Jews and stick together for one goal... World domination. As Solzhenitsyn said, they ruled Russia. They tried and almost succeeded in Germany before Hitler came. Now they control the Middle East. USA is already under their control, ditto Canada. They are presently working on South America.

    Examples of smooth cooperation among themselves:
    Trump (USA) gives Golan Heights (Syria) to Israel.
    Trump (USA) moves embassy to East Jerusalem (belongs to Palestine).
    USA usually jumps on any country that violates Human Rights, Israel can do as it pleases with no consequences.

    Israel ignores all and any UN resolutions and nothing happens.
    There are enough influential doves sitting in the UN to work on behalf of Israel. A Mr. Feltman, (Jew), the Hariri murderer and planner of the destruction of Syria, comes to mind.

    https://www.voltairenet.org/article195300.html
     
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    Nonsense anti-semitic conspiracy theories
     
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