Dossier debunked

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  1. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    In the new book by Isikoff and Corn an analysis of the most explosive charge in the explosive dossier -- the golden shower episode in the Moscow hotel -- says it was impossible to accomplish in the few hours Trump was in the hotel. And author Steele puts the odds of it actually happening at 50/50. So the dossier that got the FISA warrant to allow the Obama administration to spy and eavesdrop on Trump and his campaign is (only???) now getting debunked at its core. Nice.
     
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    Not at all. As time goes by more is corroborated.
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    You seem to have reality upside down.
     
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    The Stormy Daniels affair shows that Trump was into the porn scene and continued to be unfaithful to his wife (and reinforces the whole domination fetish) ... so not really getting the vibe that the whole shower episode has been "proven" to be less likely. Certainly not "debunked at it's core ...".
     
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    Garbage, you are taking ONE claim, that the author didn't even fully endorse, to indemnify YOUR criminal.
     
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    The above is only true if one applies the same standards to Republicans and Democrats alike. The OP's standard is that which is applied exclusively to the Democrats. For the Republicans, the standard is not based upon the nature of the evidence but upon the seriousness of the charge.
     
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  8. RodB

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    What does Stormy have to do with the dossier??? The sun rose in the east today so that proves the dossier is bunk.
     
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    Or more likely you rose watching Faux who has been lying about the dossier from day one.
     
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    I'm not sure I follow, but what does the facts of the dossier have to do with anybody's political party? Is hair color a factor? If you are saying the Republicans, different from the Democrats, do not follow evidence, you got it completely bass ackwards. There was zero evidence of Trump-Russian collusion but that had zero affect on the Democrats trying to unseat Trump because of it.
     
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    It shows the likely-hood that Trump not only cheats on his wife, but it into some kinky, porn star stuff. It gives background credence to a greater possibility that information in the dossier is correct.
     
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    ....... as it gets more and more debunked.....
     
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    Nothing has been corroborated.

    But if you feel the need to waste your time waiting for something that's never going to come to fruition, then have at it.
     
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    ... and so, I suppose are Steele, Isikoff, and Corn. I wonder how much they watch Fox, which incidentally I do not get on my over-the-air TV.
     
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    Wow! He likely committed the crime. Is that sufficient evidence for the girls you go with? So Trump is accused by others of similar things and the original author says not likely, and you go with the unrelated anecdote?????
     
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    I did not say it proved the veracity of the dossier - I said it was supporting evidence to the POSSIBILITY that it was true.
    It appears likely that Trump recently cheated on his wife and new-born child. It appears that he was into some bondage
    and kinky porn stuff. The dossier pointed out that he was into some kinky porn stuff. The Stormy Daniels story is
    more of a supporting incident than it is a incident that would disprove the contents of the dossier. Trump paid off Stormy in an attempt to hide the incident - which would support the idea brought forward by the dossier that Trump was susceptible to foreign blackmail over past sexual activity.
     
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    If you say so............wait............you believe in lies so................

    The Trump-Russia dossier: why its findings grow more significant by the day


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/07/trump-russia-steele-dossier-moscow
     
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    I think there must be some problem with comprehension. Seems you aren't at all aware of the subordinate role the dossier played in the THIRD FISA RENEWAL of the warrant. It wasn't warrant to eavesdrop on trump but on a certain at that point EX campaign member.

    But by all means refuse to accept actual facts.
     
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    Renewal FISA warrants are based on the original. The sole purpose for the original on Carter Page was to "legally" spy on anyone Page talked to, in the hope upon hope that they might find or hear something..... anything at all.
     
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    Let FISA know.

    :)
     
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    Completely misstated by RodB. Let's move on.
     
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    Did this! Did not! Did that! Did not! Got any other cogent arguments?
     
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    Those are your arguments, RodB. I said you completely misstated what FISA needs.
     
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    How long does it take to pee on a bed?

    Btw, everything with Carter Page has been verified, we know about Trumps attempt at a hotel in Moscow, and that Trump was offered hookers at that very hotel. In fact nearly everything has been verified.
     
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