Double Talk/Propaganda

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    NOW THIS IS REALLY FUNNY, SAYS HELL RAISER :evil: Vehicle crash into Sacramento restaurant sends 7 to hospital a.msn.com/01/en-us/AAHDX5b?ocid=st… WHAT? 7 PEOPLE HURT FROM A CAR RAMING A RESTAURANT? OMG!!! NOW THE LIBERALS WILL WANT TO BAN CARS!!! OH! WAIT, YANG DOES WANT TO BAN THEM FOR CLIMATE CHANGE, NOW THIS! LOL :evil:
     
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    You actually took that 'assault knife'' pic, literally? I bet you are the only one here, that did. It was extremely obvious, satire and sarcasm...:rolleyes::wall:
     
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    SATIRE? HELL RAISER :evil: ASKS? YEAH, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE REAL FACTS TO BACK UP ANYTHING YOU TRY TO SUPPORT. I USED (FACTS) IN ALL H.R.'S POSTS TO YOU. DIDN'T NEED TO HIDE BEHIND WHAT YOU CALL SATIRE/SCARCASM. :evil:
     
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    HELL RAISER :evil: AGREES WITH THIS BUS DRIVER:





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    Immigrant kids fill this town’s schools. Their bus driver is leading the backlash. a.msn.com/01/en-us/AAHGnDf?ocid=st… IMMIGRANTS? WAPO LIES AGAIN. HOW? THEY ARE ILLEGALS!!! NOT IMMIGRANTS. THEY NEED TO BE (DEPORTED) BACK TO THE NATIONS THEY CAME FROM. THEY ARE LEACHES ON THE TAX PAYER! 5 TIMES THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WENT TO THE VOTERS TO PAY MORE TAXES TO EXPAND THE SCHOOLS FOR THESE "ILLEGALS!" 5 TIMES DEFEATED!!! NOW IN NOV. THEY TRY AGAIN. THE SCHOOL BOARD NEEDS TO BE KICKED OUT FOR BEING STUPID. SEND THESE ILLEGALS BACK SO THEIR NATIONS CAN PAY FOR THIER EDUCATION!!! :evil:
     
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    Tell us again how the Gov "banned" full autos in the 30's. THAT is the sort of 'facts' YOU know. At least our exchange has corrected your ignorance on that. You're welcome.

    Show me where I "YEAH, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE REAL FACTS TO BACK UP ANYTHING YOU TRY TO SUPPORT. "
     
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    WHEN ONLY A VERY FEW PEOPLE CAN AFFORD A LICENCE AND THE LEGAL WHERE WITH ALL. TO JUMP THROUGH THE GOV. HOOPS, AND THE COST OF A "FULL AUTO" AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS CAN'T. THAT IS A (BAN)! UNLIKE THE MOVIES, THE CRIMINALS DON'T USUALLY HAVE A "FULL AUTO" WEAPON. UNLESS THEY (BLACK MARKET) BUY IT. SO I STAY WITH MY "FACTS" THAT THEY ARE EFFECTIVELY (BANNED!) DO YOU HAVE ONE? CAN YOU AFFORD ONE? PROBABLY NOT! SO YOU ARE BANNED FROM HAVING ONE. SAYS HELL RAISER :evil:
     
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    FATBACK, MORE INFO FOR YOU.
    Even though retired from duty, retired officers retain their “Office.”
    Answered Oct 7, 2017 · Author has 862 answers and 1.5m answer views

    Originally Answered: Is it legal to own an automatic weapon in the US?
    See this information: Here Are The Actual Federal Laws Regulating Machine Guns In The U.S. - The Federalist

    In conclusion, fully automatic weapons are highly regulated under both federal and state law. Only licensed entities are permitted to manufacture, sell, or own them. Private civilian ownership of machine guns is illegal unless the individual has been explicitly permitted by the federal ATF to own them. All fully automatic weapons must be registered with the federal government in a central registry with no exceptions. A special tax is levied on all NFA items (machine guns, suppressors, short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, and destructive devices) with no exceptions.

    Bottom line:

    1. Yes, some people, at some times, and in some places, as private citizens, may lawfully own automatic weapons in the US.
    2. It is never lawful for any private citizen to own any automatic weapon manufactured after 19 May, 1986, when the National Firearms Act (NFA) was modified to preclude any further lawful production and sale to private citizens.
    3. NFA items produced after 19 May 1986 can only be made by special vendors, with the highest regulation, and can only be lawfully sold to qualified state and federal agencies, i.e., law enforcement and the military.
    4. In any state that permits ownership of any NFA items, it is FIRST required that ALL Federal NFA regulations are met, including taxes, background checks, registration in a national registry, notification of any moves of the weapon itself outside of its current state of registry, and much more. It’s highly invasive, even for the owner of a pre-1986 NFA item.
    5. No repair parts for pre-1986 NFA items may lawfully be produced, sold, or owned…thus, any lawfully owned pre-1986 (i.e., potentially made by and owned by a civilian individual) NFA item that “breaks” or “wears out” cannot be lawfully repaired in the US (and to take it out of the US would also violate the NFA laws…).
    6. So a pre-1986 fully automatic NFA item that is lawfully owned, registered, taxed, etc., COULD be in the hands of a private citizen, if they have owned it since before 1986, OR they have submitted themselves and their entire life to a very intrusive ATF background check that may take up to a year and has no guarantee that ATF will approve the transfer/purchase of the NFA item to the new owner.
    7. NFA items that are lawfully sold command a steep premium due to the peculiar circumstances of their registration and the NFA (and applicable State laws that cannot be less restrictive than the Federal NFA laws, but CAN, and some DO, ban or even further restrict automatic NFA items within their State jurisdiction), often into 5 digits, or multiples of 5 digits. :evil:
     
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    You should really look up the definition of "banned".
     
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    so the laws work, we just ue those same laws for ar-15's and it's not a ban
     
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    If you think the Constitution is little more than antique toilet paper? Sure
     
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    WRONG! YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ATF, AND ALL THE HOOPS TO GET A CLASS 3 FULL AUTO FOR A -----AR-15 OR A CIVILIAN AK-47 AND YOU DON'T PAY SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR EITHER LIKE A FULL AUTO CLASS III FIREARM. AND THE STRICT GUN LAWS IN CHICAGO, L.A. DETROIT, BALTIMORE, REALL WORK DON'T THEY? AND THE DEFINITION OF BAN FROM THE DICTIONARY= TO PROBIBIT BY LEGAL MEANS THE USE,PERFORMANCE OR (DISTRIBUTION OF) WITH ONLY PEOPLE WITH MONEY ie RICH ABLE TO AFFORD TO GET THE LICENCE, AND BUY A CLASS III FIRE ARM. THAT IS A BAN TO THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS. :evil:
     
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    NOW TO THE CONSTITUTION, IT SAYS "THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!" IN THE 1930'S THE CONRESS MOVED TO BAN CLASS III FIRE ARMS TO ALL BUT THE RICH. AND IN THE 1980'S IIRC NO NEW CLASS III FIRE ARMS COULD BE MADE FOR SALE TO CIVILIANS. ONLY PRE- 1980'S IIRC YEAR COULD BE WRONG. COULD BE LICENCED. AND NO NEW PARTS MADE FOR THEM. IF A PART WORE OUT. YOU COULD NOT GET A NEW ONE, UNLES YOU WERE A MACHINEST WHO KNEW OUT TO MAKE ONE IN SECRET. I'LL GET THE CORRECT YEAR NEXT TIME. :evil:
     
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    FROM HELL RAISERS :evil: POST ABOVE.

    It is never lawful for any private citizen to own any automatic weapon manufactured after 19 May, 1986, when the National Firearms Act (NFA) was modified to preclude any further lawful production and sale to private citizens.

    No repair parts for pre-1986 NFA items may lawfully be produced, sold, or owned…thus, any lawfully owned pre-1986 (i.e., potentially made by and owned by a civilian individual) NFA item that “breaks” or “wears out” cannot be lawfully repaired in the US (and to take it out of the US would also violate the NFA laws…

    So a pre-1986 fully automatic NFA item that is lawfully owned, registered, taxed, etc., COULD be in the hands of a private citizen, if they have owned it since before 1986, OR they have submitted themselves and their entire life to a very intrusive ATF background check that may take up to a year and has no guarantee that ATF will approve the transfer/purchase of the NFA item to the new owner. YOU SEE HOW ONLY RICH PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO OWN A CLASS III FIREARM. AND ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO SELL TO ANY ONE ELSE.--------A BAN!! TO THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS. :evil:
     
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    HELL RAISER :evil: REALLY LIKES THIS: Intelligence chief Maguire defends his handling of whistleblower complaint in testimony before Congress a.msn.com/01/en-us/AAHSD6Y?ocid=st… 1. THE COMPLAINT FULL OF ADMITTED 2ND HAND INFO NO REAL FACTS 2. SAID HE WOULD RESIGN IF TRUMP TOLD HIM TO STONWALL--TRUMP DIDN'T! 3. COMPLAINT BY A CIA (SPY) TRUMP WAS RIGHT ON SAYING SINCE 2015 HE WAS BEING SPIED ON! :evil:
     
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    I said the same rules for ar-15 as machine guns... so they would be exactly the same
     
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    HR is a wise man i say.
     
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    YOU SHOULD REALLY LEARN HOW DIFFERENT FIREARMS ARE. THE AR-15 IS NOT/ AND NEVER HAS BEEN A FULL AUTO FIREARM. CLASS III FIREARMS DO HAVE THE SELECTOR SWITCH TO MAKE THEM FULL AUTO. THE AR-15 USES A SIMILAR "SEMI-AUTO" ACTION AS A RUGER 22 SEMI-AUTO. SO WHY SHOULD THE AR-15 BE CLASSIFIED AS A CLASS III FIREARM? PLEASE LEARN YOUR FIREARMS BEFORE POSTING. :evil:
     
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    HELL RAISER :evil: REALLY LIKES THIS: Democrats Have Already Decided To Impeach. They Should Just Go Ahead And Vote a.msn.com/01/en-us/AAI3Ipe?ocid=st… IMPEACHMENT "WITHOUT COLD HARD FACTS" IS JUST LIBERAL VIGILANTISM!!!! AND THEY WILL PAY FOR IT IN 2020 ELECTIONS!!!! :evil:
     
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    What about semi automatic don't you understand?
     
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    WELL THEY AREN'T THE SAME! YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT. AND THE CLASS III LAW WAS FOR FIREARMS THAT FIRE FULL AUTO. AND THE AR-15 DOESN'T. BUT YOU SEEM (NOT) TO UNDERSTAND THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE A M-4 OR M-16 AND YOU RUN SCARED!! IF THE AR-15 IS LISTED UNDER THE CLASSIII LAW. THEN ALL REPEAT ALL SEMI-AUTO'S WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS CLASS III. BUT SILLY LIBERALS KNOW THAT, AND THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO HELP (BAN) ALL FIREARMS. A DIRTY TRICK YOUR PUSHING. WHICH THINKING PEOPLE WILL NOT FALL FOR. LOL :evil:
     
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    HELL RAISER :evil: LIKES THIS: Shoot Them in the Legs, Trump Suggested: Inside His Border War a.msn.com/01/en-us/AAI7X9h?ocid=st… JUST MORE NYT'S PROPAGANDA. WHY? CAN THE NYT PROVE ANY OF THESE SILLY/CRAZY STATEMENT NYT POSTED? NO? AND NO ONE COMES FORWARD TO SAY THEY HEARD THEM? NYT KNOWS NOTHING BUT LIES!! :evil:
     
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    Of course that would be the case, hence why we should always carefully make the distinction between what are, and are not automatic weapons..
     
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