Dr. Craig Roberts - Nov. Elections Might Bring End Of World

Tramp IS a fascist.

his ideas are fascist,

his methods are fascist.

he wears the shoe well

 

I have news for you, when Russia starts that war of conquest you will know about it. Here's something from my favorite writer Pepe Escobar:

Escobar reports that recently the Rand Corporation, “essentially a CIA outpost,” concluded that “Russia could overrun NATO in a mere 60 hours, if not less.” On the level of nukes and missile systems, Russia is four generations ahead of the US military/security complex, which is mainly interested in inflating profits with cost overruns. US weapons systems are simply outclassed.​

 

Jesus Christ I don't know what's worse. That you believe this bull(*)(*)(*)(*) or that someone actually wrote it. I will laugh my ass off when "Russia starts that war of conquest" and gets its ass handed to it. Wonder what kind of propaganda you all will be spouting then. Assuming you survive. I hear the shill house is very close to the Kremlin.

 

And another thing. Once again you show how much of a pathtic hypocrite you are. You are always babbling on about how the "maniacs" in Washington are trying to start a war with Russia. But you literally just said "when Russia STARTS that war of CONQUEST".

Focus on the words I bolded. I'm sure you are at least intelligent enough to halfway understand how stupid it was of you to say this.

 

Yeah, noting like rounding up 11.5 million people and deporting them. To do that, you would need a Gestapo like police force. It's ridiculous. But, hey, his followers are buying it. So Trump keeps selling it.

 

It appears that you are as ignorant as ever. It's a shame that you don't know a difference between a fascist and a nationalist. Educate yourself.

 

Well, it is always amazing what kinds of stuff people will mindlessly believe. First, that isn't what the Rand Study found. What the Rand study found, was that NATO didn't have enough troops stationed in the Baltic states to thwart a Russian invasion. The study recommended that NATO move troops to the Baltic states to counter that threat - one brigade, which really isn't that many troops, and that has been done. Below is a link from the Rand Corporation for you edification. http://www.rand.org/blog/2015/03/stop-putins-next-invasion-before-it-starts.html

The Rand study didn't find Russian missiles to be 4 generations ahead of the US military, nor did it find US weapons systems were "outclassed". Unfortunately for you and those like you, facts do matter. Whither you realize it or not, and obviously you don't, the Russian government does. The Russian government knows its weapons are inferior. It's troops are inferior. Mother Russia has never been a bastion of technology. Autocracies generally don't do innovation very well, because innovators tend to make autocrats nervous and fearful.

The fact is, the US military is the most advanced military in the world. The fact is the US has deployed laser weapons. It also has the world's best anti-ballistic missile systems. Mother Russia's use of its cruise missiles in Syria was an embarrassment. Nearly a quarter of the missiles Mother Russia launched fell way short of their targets. Mother Russia's military lags the US and Western nations in every category. Those are the hard facts.

Here are some more hard facts for you to consider. Your beloved Mother Russia will never be able to compete with the US and Western nations. It doesn't have the money. It doesn't have the people, It doesn't have the technology. Your beloved Mother Russia is massively outgunned in every important category. It's economy is small, a tiny fraction of the US economy, and it's almost entirely based on oil production. It has less than half the US population and Mother Russia's population is shrinking. The American population is growing. Russian's are sicker, less healthy, than their Western counterparts. http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/russian-demographics-perfect-storm

 

No I say we should help if they are attacked but we should not provoke russia for no reason.
Russia is not fanatic or suïcidal and wil not attack NATO unles pressured up to the point were they think a attack from us is inevitable.
While im confident NATO has the upper hand we should not underestimate Russia and I don't want to see my city bombed because of some idiots in NATO going to far.



Does Russia have a army standing in any of those country for rapid intervention? There is no problem signing a alliance, the problem would be the same if Russia suddently signs a alliance with Mexico and puts tanks on the usa border.

Also kosovo massacre has never been proven and is a perfectly valid example

http://www.globalresearch.ca/no-evidence-of-genocide-or-ethnic-cleansing-in-kosovo/625

If you want to see a genocide you should be looking at Ukraine bombing citys in the donbas or among the kurds in Turkey. Both are far from innocents but NATO is looking the other way

Also it is stupid to put troop at the Russian border since they would be overwhelmed and whiped out very fast if war did happend. And im fairly sure russia known exactly were they are.

 

Craig Roberts and Stephen Cohen and Pepe Escobar and Alastair Crooke have ALL gone full-blown idiotic moron?

 

Yes yes we've already had many a discussion of Russia's future super weapons that are about as real as a game of Black Ops 3, the fact of the matter is that these super weapons aren't even I'm the test phase, their ICBMs are two decades past their operational shelf lives, they no longer even have 2nd strike capacity, and the West is decades ahead of Russia in all technological aspects from fighter aircraft to missiles to computer guidance systems, the Russian military is understaffed at only 82% capacity operating antiquated Cold War era relics that couldn't match retired US equipment, Russia simply doesn't have the economic or technological base to even begin the build a modern military let alone deploy and field one. FYI Escobar is an anti-Western, anti-US, anti-EU activist and propagandist posing as a journalist.

 

Oh (*)(*)(*)(*)ing spare us this bull(*)(*)(*)(*), Russia has illegally invaded and continues to occupy two of its neighbors in less than a decade, if the US invaded Canada then Mexico would have every right in the world to invite anyone into their nation to help defend their borders but that isn't going to happen because the US isn't an aggressor nation whereas, Russia is.

Oh god here we (*)(*)(*)(*)ing go with the global research fascist Putinista propaganda, sorry sport your source is a laughable pro-Serbian propaganda pamphlet, the Serbs perpetrated genocide against the Albanians and in the case of the Srebrenica massacre the ICJ ruled that it constituted genocide, I have provided you with numerous citations to Serbian war crimes during the Yugoslav wars including genocide and mass rape, and listed numerous massacres of Croat, Bosniak,, and Albanian civilian men, women, and children targeted specifically and exclusively because of their ethnicity, that is genocide anyway you slice it.

Notable massacres against Croats:


Baćin massacre
Bruška massacre
Dalj massacre (led by notorious war criminal Arkan)
Erdut massacre
Lovas massacre
Saborsko massacre
Široka Kula massacre
Škabrnja massacre
Voćin massacre
Vukovar massacre

There were also prison camps, where Croatian prisoners of war and civilians were kept by Serbian authorities.

Begejci camp (Logor Begejci) in Begejci near Zrenjanin, Serbia.
Sremska Mitrovica camp in Sremska Mitrovica, Serbia.
Stajićevo camp (Logor Stajićevo) in Stajićevo near Zrenjanin.


Against Bosniaks/Albanians during the Bosnian War:


Ahatovići massacre
Bijeljina massacre
Doboj massacre
Foča massacres
Korićani Cliffs massacre
Prijedor massacre
Višegrad massacre
Tuzla Massacre
Paklenik Massacre
Markale massacres
Srebrenica massacre
Srebrenica Children Massacre
Zvornik massacre
Siege of Bihać
Siege of Goražde
Siege of Sarajevo

There were several concentration and prison camps in Bosnia, run by Serbs:

Omarska camp
Keraterm camp
Manjača camp
Trnopolje camp
Uzamnica camp
Vilina Vlas

The International Court of Justice confirmed the ICTY judgment that the Srebrenica massacre was genocide:

The Court concludes that the acts committed at Srebrenica falling within Article II (a) and (b) of the Convention were committed with the specific intent to destroy in part the group of the Muslims of Bosnia and Herzegovina as such; and accordingly that these were acts of genocide, committed by members of the VRS in and around Srebrenica from about 13 July 1995.[39]


Against Albanians during Kosovo war:


Suva Reka massacre — 48 Albanian civilians victims, among them many children.[42]
Račak massacre — 45 Albanians villagers were murdered by Serb forces.[43]
Podujevo massacre - 19 Albanian civilians, including women, children and the elderly, killed by Serb paramilitary.[44]
Massacre at Velika Kruša — according to the Court, Serbian special police units murdered 42 persons.[45] There is also allegetions of females mass raped.[46]
Izbica massacre — Serbian forces killed about 120 Albanian civilians.[47]
Drenica massacre — there were 29 identified corpses of massacre, committed by Serbian law enforcement forces.[48]
Gornje Obrinje massacre - 18 bodies were found,[49] but more people slaughtered.[50]
Cuska massacre — 41 known victims.[51]
Bela Crkva massacre — 62 known victims[52]
Orahovac massacre — from 50 to more than 200 ethnic Albanian civilians victims[53]
Dubrava Prison massacre — Serbian prison guards killed more than 70 Albanian prisoners.[54]
Ćuška massacre near Peć on May 14, 1999 attributed to the Šakali

Goran Stoparić, ex-member of Special Anti-terrorist Unit (SAJ), speculating about motives behind Podujevo massacre, said:

"In my opinion, the only motive was the fact that the victims were Albanians, and perhaps because of some hidden immaturity or sickness of mind on their part. They would probably have killed them had they been Bosnians or Croats. But it is certain that they were killed because they were not Serbs".[55]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_war_crimes_in_the_Yugoslav_Wars#War_crimes

No actually the ethnic cleansing occurring in Donbas is from the Russian invasion you propagandist:



“We are talking of a reign of fear, if not of terror” in the pockets of territory around Donetsk and Luhansk controlled by armed separatists and now experiencing a state of total lawlessness, Mr. Magazzeni said, citing cases of people shot at checkpoints for no reason and members of armed groups who were summarily shot because they no longer wanted to fight.

“The escalation in criminal activity resulting in human rights abuses is no longer limited to targeting journalists, elected representatives, local politicians, civil servants and civil society activists,” the report stated. “Abductions, detentions, acts of ill-treatment and torture, and killings by armed groups are now affecting the broader population of the two eastern regions.”

They further report that pogroms in the Crimea are responsible for ethnic cleansing in the Crimea:


The United Nations refugee agency has reported that more than 34,000 Ukrainians have been displaced. Most were from Crimea, where people who speak Ukrainian or do not want to change their nationality to Russian face discrimination and intimidation, Mr. Magazzeni said.

“They are mostly concerned about security: people report staying in cellars to keep away from the fighting, facing harassment at checkpoints and fearing the increasingly common abductions, threats and extortion,” the monitors reported.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/19/w...tails-casualties-in-eastern-ukraine.html?_r=0

 

Nope but I am a member of the reality based community unlike you:


“We are talking of a reign of fear, if not of terror” in the pockets of territory around Donetsk and Luhansk controlled by armed separatists and now experiencing a state of total lawlessness, Mr. Magazzeni said, citing cases of people shot at checkpoints for no reason and members of armed groups who were summarily shot because they no longer wanted to fight.

“The escalation in criminal activity resulting in human rights abuses is no longer limited to targeting journalists, elected representatives, local politicians, civil servants and civil society activists,” the report stated. “Abductions, detentions, acts of ill-treatment and torture, and killings by armed groups are now affecting the broader population of the two eastern regions.”

They further report that pogroms in the Crimea are responsible for ethnic cleansing in the Crimea:


The United Nations refugee agency has reported that more than 34,000 Ukrainians have been displaced. Most were from Crimea, where people who speak Ukrainian or do not want to change their nationality to Russian face discrimination and intimidation, Mr. Magazzeni said.

“They are mostly concerned about security: people report staying in cellars to keep away from the fighting, facing harassment at checkpoints and fearing the increasingly common abductions, threats and extortion,” the monitors reported.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/19/w...tails-casualties-in-eastern-ukraine.html?_r=0

 

The intent of trolls is not to discuss a subject, but to provoke others, so best to take what they say from whence it comes.

 

Q.E.D.

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Trump supports fascist policies and tactics.

 

When you find out differently it's going to be too late my friend, so until then keep drowning yourselves in paranoia about Russia sabotaging everything that's falling apart in Sweden, and how there are submarines swimming around in Swedish waters, because that's what the ones who are raking in the money want you to believe.




Lord, What fools these mortals be - William Shakespeare

 

you quote Paul Craig Roberts, accuse the USA of orchestrating a "coup" in Ukraine, and accuse others of paranoia?

LOL!!

 

What does "provoke" mean to you? Does it mean letting Mother Russia do whatever it wants? That was tried once before with a similar dictator. It resulted in WWII, the bloodiest war in the history of mankind. We should lean from history. Appeasement doesn't work. Russia will do what it has done. It will continue to push the limits. If the US and NATO don't push back, Mother Putina will keep pushing, because he will think he can get away with it. The danger here is that Putina misreads US and allied actions. So the US and Allied nations must be very clear and very firm with Putina, so that he doesn't cross the line. The US and Allied nations have communicated that line to Mother Putina. We should learn from history, appeasement doesn't work.

No it wouldn't be in anyway similar. First, the US has warm relationships with its neighbors. The US doesn't have a modern history of invading, occupying and annexing neighboring states as does Mother Russia. That's why very few, countries are willing to sign an alliance with Mother Russia. Those countries who are willing to sign an alliance with Russia are militarily insignificant poor dictatorships. Three, the US would not be militarily threatened by Russian tanks on the Mexican border.

Well, this is why facts matter. The evidence says otherwise. Milosevic was arrested and tried by the International Criminal Court for genocide. So obviously the World Court disagrees with your assertion that there was no evidence of genocide.

Well again, you have no credible evidence the Ukrainian government or the Kurds are in any way guilty of genocide, probably because there is none. And that should be a problem for you, but it isn't.

Well, yet again, the brightest minds disagree with you. The idea is to have enough troops on the border to prevent a Russian invasion - to send a clear message to Mother Putina that these countries are off limits. The idea isn't to invade Mother Russia. The idea is to prevent Mother Russia from doing what she did in Georgia and Ukraine - you know, invading, occupying and annexing the lands of her neighbors. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union the US and Allied nations have been gearing down. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union the US has withdrawn most of its troops from Europe. Now that Mother Putina wants to re-fight the Cold War, the US will need to rebuild its troop presence in Europe.

Yes, I'm sure Mother Russia will know where the US and Allied nations place their troops in the Baltic States. The US and Allied Nations also know where Mother Russia places her troops and Mother Russia's troops are under constant Allied surveillance. Just because Mother Russia knows where Allied troops are located, it doesn't by any stretch, mean Mother Russia would be able overwhelm those troops. The fact is Allied troops are better trained, better disciplined, more experienced, and better equipped.

 

So now when presented with the actual Rand Corporation study you originally referenced, you suddenly don't believe the Rand Corporation study. It's funny how that works.

And where did this come from. "drowning yourselves in paranoia about Russia sabotaging everything that's falling apart in Sweden"? Where have I ever said anything about Mother Russia sabotaging anything much less "everything"? You are making stuff up again comrade. And what makes you think things are falling apart in Sweden? I don't see how things are falling apart in Sweden.

 

New lies. You told us about "genocide" and now you are trying to confirm you "genocide" with displaced persons statistics.
Buy the way, number displaced (from Ukraine) persons seeking refuge in Russia differs not too much from those seeking refuge in Ukraine. Both countries are guilty of dumb ethnic policies.
http://www.unhcr.org/en-us/news/lat...ars-1-million-fighting-escalates-donetsk.html

 

ethnic cleansing is a form of genocide

 

Your post is of no interest for me. I already know you do not understand meanings of words "genocide" and "ethnic cleansing".

 

creating an atmosphere and intolerance, which causes a large number of people to flee due to their nationality, is ethnic cleansing.

 

This may become the US president.



Good luck Texans in a referendum on independence.

The Texas National Movement (LPT) has won the battle for the right to hold a referendum on independence from the US state.
Texas is trying to break away from the US by, as they themselves say, "Crimean scenario". Very good. The next step, according to this scenario, the entry into Russia.

 

He understands it, only he uses it towards those who are not committing ethnic cleansing, and pretends it doesn't exist towards the ones he wants to cover up. He has an agenda.

As an example, in the Dombas where the Galatian Nazis are ethnically cleansing the original inhabitants by shelling them and where millions have left, he will never admit it's ethnic cleansing, while in Crimea where the Ukrainians living there were threatened by the Right Factor in Kiev that if they stayed their relatives in Ukraine would be killed, he presents it as an ethnic cleansing by the Russians.

 

He's a neo con, which means her lies and war mongering are perfectly in tune with his own.