Dr. Fauci: Hydroxychloroquine not effective against coronavirus

Go for it. You have nothing to lose as our fearless leader says.

 

Well the top doctor in the USA says it's no good, if you choose to follow a witch doctors advice, that is your health.

 

Last witch doctor I ever viewed with my eyes was in a remote village in South Korea, and the baby under his care died with sores over his entire body.

Never tried, but I bet it's not easy to find a state licensed witch doctor in the USA.

 

Who, pray tell, is the top doctor in the USA?

 

If you define top doctor as a physician treating patients with long clinical practice and clinical experience under their belt, nobody knows who it is. But if you asked the chief of staff at leading hospitals or the Mayo Clinic, they could give you a short list of names.

 

So you told me to pay attention to the top doctor in the USA without knowing who it is?

 

I concede that the top non-practicing, bureaucrat doctor in the USA is Dr. Anthony Fauci.

 

I disagree vehemently.

 

HCQ is still being used wherever evidence based healthcare is available.

 

Is it Dr. Birx then?

 

No.

 

Who then, who is the top non-practicing bureaucrat doctor?

 

In fact, Fauci has failed miserably during this crisis.

"FAUCI: “The system — the system does not — is not really geared to what we need right now, what you are asking for. That is a failing.”
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: “A failing, yes.”
FAUCI: “It is a failing, let's admit it.”...

"Later that day, in an interview with ABC News, Fauci was asked who was responsible.
ABC NEWS: “So you testified today that the U.S. testing system is currently failing and that we’re not set up for universal testing. Who’s responsible for this failure?”
FAUCI: “You know, I don’t think it’s anyone that’s responsible."
THE WASHINGTON POST, What did Dr. Anthony Fauci say about coronavirus testing ‘failing’?, 3/13/20.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-fauci-say-about-coronavirus-testing-failing/

 

I still trust Dr. Fauci over Trump.

Just saying.

 

If you are diagnosed with the Wuhan Coronavirus and refuse HCQ you will be betting your life on Fauci over many other physicians with actual experience treating infected patients.

"Ingraham read about the first problem from Raoult’s response, “In the current period, it seems that passion dominates rigorous and balanced scientific analysis and may lead to scientific misconduct and this article [VA findings] is an absolutely spectacular example of this. The analysis of the data shows two major biases…Lymphopenia is twice as common in the HCQ groups as the non-HCQ group and there is an absolute correlation between lymphopenia and fatality rate, which is well known.”

One of the major problems Raoult found was that the HQC and the HQC/Zpak were given after the patients had been intubated. “This is unreasonable at the time of the cytokine storm [after patient is critically ill], as it is unlikely that HCQ alone would be able to control patients at this stage of the disease.”"
RED STATE, French Doctor Didier Raoult Cites ‘Scientific Misconduct’ in Recent VA Study on Hydroxychloroquine; Two Major Flaws, By Elizabeth Vaughn, April 23, 2020.
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-...uct-in-recent-va-study-on-hydroxychloroquine/

 

Instead of just plainly admitting that the hydroxychloroquine treatment is ineffective, the RW has to continue promoting this snake oil by going further down the rabbit hole. The age of idiocy is clearly here to stay.

 

false narrative. Enough hyperbole already.

 

So, are you calling Doctor Didier Raoult a dangerous quack?

 

I am not calling him anything. it seems that his results could not be reproduced. That's a problem in science. Why could they not be reproduced? I don't know. I doubt it was because of politics, although the RW is trying its hardest to make this political.

 

~ Sad but true. This is very common with politicized medicine.
Dr. F also is beholden to WHO. He needs to go away ...

 

You are relying on Fake Science and Fake News - grotesque deadly Political Science

The effectiveness of HCQ has been "widely misrepresented". Fake Science has now killed tens of thousands.

"Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been widely misrepresented in both clinical reports and public media, and outpatient trials results are not expected until September. Early outpatient illness is very different than later hospitalized florid disease and the treatments differ. Evidence about use of hydroxychloroquine alone, or of hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin in inpatients, is irrelevant concerning efficacy of the pair in early high-risk outpatient disease.

Five studies, including two controlled clinical trials, have demonstrated significant major outpatient treatment efficacy. Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been used as standard-of-care in more than 300,000 older adults with multicomorbidities, with estimated proportion diagnosed with cardiac arrhythmias attributable to the medications 47/100,000 users, of which estimated mortality is <20%, 9/100,000 users, compared to the 10,000 Americans now dying each week. These medications need to be widely available and promoted immediately for physicians to prescribe."
AMERICAN JOURNAL OF EPIDEMIOLOGY, Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk Covid-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis, By Harvey A Risch, American Journal of Epidemiology, kwaa093, https://doi.org/10.1093/aje/kwaa093, Published: 27 May 2020.
https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/5847586

 

And there is a very small group of people who are still willing to believe such a ridiculous claim.

 

The people at Yale, Johns Hopkins, and Oxford University who have been kind enough to give you this heads-up about the Fake Political Science disinformation you have relied on. Think it through.


AMERICAN JOURNAL OF EPIDEMIOLOGY, Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk Covid-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis, By Harvey A Risch, American Journal of Epidemiology, kwaa093, https://doi.org/10.1093/aje/kwaa093, Published: 27 May 2020. (Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.)
https://academic.oup.com/aje/advance-article/doi/10.1093/aje/kwaa093/5847586

 

You listen to too much Fake News:

This is not just Fake News, but a significant case of medical fraud. A company called Surgisphere claimed it had a database of information gathered from over 600 hospitals around the world on the success of hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of the coronavirus. The company’s owner authored several papers published in prominent medical journals based on this data. Those papers were then widely reported in the media last month and resulted in drug trials that were already underway being paused:

Just to emphasize how this Lancet study was greeted by the media, here’s the Fake News NY Times story about it which is headlined, “Malaria Drug Taken by Trump Is Tied to Increased Risk of Heart Problems and Death in New Study.”

Last week, a group of 100 doctors and scientists wrote an open letter to Lancet asking that the data underlying the study be explained in more detail because the numbers didn’t add up. At the time, Dr. Sapan S. Desai, the owner of Surgisphere vigorously defended the accuracy of his data but refused to show it to anyone. He later agreed to let Lancet review it. However, today the Guardian reported some additional problems with the credibility of Surgisphere, a company whose total of six employees include a science fiction author and an adult model:

A search of publicly available material suggests several of Surgisphere’s employees have little or no data or scientific background. ” One employee is listed as a fantasy artist. Another employee listed as a "marketing executive" is actually an adult model and events hostess.

The company’s LinkedIn page has fewer than 100 followers and last week listed just six employees. This was changed to three employees as of Wednesday.

While Surgisphere claims to run one of the largest and fastest hospital databases in the world, it has almost no online presence. Its Twitter handle has fewer than 170 followers, with no posts between October 2017 and March 2020.

Until Monday, the “get in touch” link on Surgisphere’s homepage redirected to a WordPress template for a cryptocurrency website, raising questions about how hospitals could easily contact the company to join its database.​

Dr. Desai has previously had three malpractice suits filed against him and back in 2008 he created an Indiegogo page for some kind of wearable device which sounded pretty much like science fiction.

Shortly after the Guardian approached Lancet with all of this, the journal published a notice of their concern about the reliability of the study.

After eagerly swallowing all the crap on Russian Collusion, the Fake Dossier, the Ukraine Lies and railroading of Michael Flynn, not even a hesitation before wolfing down yet another load of Fake News Crap.

Sad!

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Your posts show you are intelligent and do think things through but what frustrates me is that that thinking all too often ends in a conspiracy theory

Just ditch that because given the choice between a massive conspiracy and just plain dumb stupidity and general ****upedness then you would be wise to put your money on the latter

If you did this you would find that a knot in your heart would release and life would be nicer. That is no flower power airy fairy ness but based on neuropsychology

Try it sometime - I have faith that you have an amazing potential if you stepped away from the victim role