Dropping the Charges Against Flynn is a Political Maneuver; Not about justice

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  1. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't kid yourselves. Dropping the charges against Michael Flynn is not justice.

    Here's what likely happened. I'm not pretending to know any of this as fact, which is why I am saying this is what likely happened. Trump's campaign folks told him that Flynn's conviction would make him vulnerable in the upcoming election. Trump had two ways to fix that. One way was to pardon Flynn. But that would have made matters worse because people would just think he's abusing his pardon power. So Trump pressured Barr to drop the charges against Flynn. That way Trump could insulate himself from the decision to get Flynn off the hook. Trump also hoped it would add credibility to his claim that every investigation into him and his associates, no matter how unrelated, was all a sham.

    Unfortunately, there are incredibly stupid people who are buying this farce. And I know most of them simply won't listen to reason. But I know that it agitates these people that I'm making sense. That alone is enough to justify my time writing this. You can deny it all you want, but I know that deep down you know Trump is full of **** and this is just a backhanded pardon orchestrated for political purposes.

    I know Sean Hannity and all the other idiots you listen to are feeding you bullshit to make you believe that justice was served here. But the rest of us aren't buying it.

    No, it is not. If the FBI conducts a follow-up interview, you should be just as truthful as you would be in a formal interview.

    What the hell does this have to do with Schiff?

    I agree Peter Strozk acted inappropriately and he lost his job for it. But that doesn't mean Flynn should get off scot-free.

    I'd rather just tell it like it is. And frankly, I'm not wrong. My characterization was accurate.

    Where's the link to this memo?

    Let's just ignore the fact that you can't use a mirror to spot hypocrisy. I'll just give you a pass there.

    You are ignoring the fact that Flynn is an admitted crook. Do you not understand that Flynn pleaded guilty to willfully making false statements to the FBI? Do you not understand that it is a crime to lie to the FBI?

    I see a bunch of unreliable sources reporting that Brandon Van Grack's withdrawal was due to corruption. But the federalist is ****. Show me some real evidence.

    The guy is dropping from all his cases--not just Flynn. Seems just as likely that he's decided to leave the DOJ because the AG is now a pawn of the president.

    What misconduct? This is the kind of ignorant, conclusory argument I've been talking about. There's no meet here. Just "ABUSE OF POWER" and "MISCONDUCT" HUR DER. You've got nothing but what you hear from Sean Hannity on Fox News. News Flash: Sean Hannity is a know-nothing retard.
     
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    There you go again.....smearing the opposition as if that disqualifies things. So you have more experiience and qualifications than Hannity, Ha! Personally, I find Hannity kind of boring because he repeats the truth over and over when thinking individuals already know it. We know it was an attempted coup from the top of the Obama administration. It is just slow to prove given the fact the establishment and the press doesn't want t uncovered. It has already started. Factual evidence is being released. Biden definitely was in the know.
    Democrats!! What are you going to do?????
     
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    The only thing that got Trump into power and the only thing keeping him thete is the inability of left wing parties all around the Western world to nominate viable candidates for office.
     
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    Is it Mueller time yet?
    Better yet, you folks ever get tired of being wrong yet? These last couple of years have been rough for you folks, gonna be even rougher when this whole Russia bs leads straight to Barry Obummer.
     
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    OP, do you even know what a plea bargain is?
     
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    all one has to do is look at the one that signed it, a Trump political hack... nuff said
     
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    All one has to do is look at the ones who started this whole Russia Collusion hoax, Obama political hacks.
     
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    So what? It was a political maneuver which got him charged to start with.
     
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    Bringing the Charges Against Flynn was a Political Maneuver; Not about justice


    Agreed
     
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    You beat me to it by seconds.
     
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    This isn’t looking good for all the dupes who bought into the Russia hoax nonsense, because the setting up of Flynn leads all the way to Barry Obama.
     
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    Until indictments are handed down I am on the sidelines. Exposure is not enough.
     
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    Obama learned from Nixon's error that instead of using his campaign people to spy on political opponents, he would just turn the FBI into the KGB and do his evil work. Obama's thugs lied 17 times to a federal judge to spy on President Trump. Obama did so realizing there would be no penalty, and to date not even a lowly agent has been indicted.
     
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    Zorro, please tell us what happened, really?

    Trump's campaign was legally surveilled then. NY state is legally surveilling it now in the state. Get over it.
     
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    Nothing better than to have the president and AG involved in thwarting justice.
    But then again...This the US and justice has been abused since day one.
     
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    Interesting. Exactly how does New York State do surveillance on a president?
     
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    Self serving garbage at best. We know exactly what happened. We don't have to guess at all, let alone one as fanciful as yours.

    The FBI tried desperately to railroad Flynn. When that didn't work they forced him to confess by threatening to drag his son through the same never ending investigatory process that had almost bankrupted the general already. If your going to permit the government to do that sort of crap you might as well let them break out torquemada's full investigatory apparatus. There is a reason for that phrase a fair and speedy trail in the Constitution and it is to prevent the sort of death by investigation that was inflicted upon Flynn.
     
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    That makes little sense.
     
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    What about that was cowardly?
     
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    Attacking sources. I posted the very same story from CNBC. Are they apart of the vast right wing conspiracy as well?
     
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    One of these days you’re going to have to come to terms with the fact that you allowed yourself to be duped from the get go on all this Bs Russia hysteria.
     
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    There is no defending the illegal actions of the crooked prosecutors and there can be no perjury where there is no legitimate criminal investigation. They had no choice but to drop the matter. There is no universe in which Flynn is guilty of perjury. Given that, just how in the hell is the DOJ supposed to pursue a conviction?

    TO SUMMARIZE:
    • Everything the Fake News Media Told You Was A lie
    • Everything Congressional Democrats Told You Was A Lie
    • Everything the "Intelligence Community" Told You Was A Lie
    • Everything We Told You Was The Truth
     
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    Anyone who denies it at this point just doesn't care or is incredibly dumb.

    Kind of boring trying to explain it to them at this point, and explaining it isn't even really necessary at this point.

    They're ****ed.
     
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    Sources? thefederalist article just contains conclusory statements. It doesn't even qualify as a source. It's an opinion piece. And I don't see your CNBC article. Please repost.
     

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