It would 've been obvious if you didn't constantly cherry pick posts to avoid those INCONVENIENT statements and questions
No, it is you who refuse to understand the clear and precise meaning of my comments. All can see that you are being snarky. Why are you goading? The choice is not yours, it is the woman's. Here is a question for you: under what conditions would you have an abortion yourself?
Currently there are more than 20 states with laws criminalizing certain actions committed during pregnancy. In Wisconsin, an expectant mother can be taken into custody if police believe her abuse of alcohol may harm her unborn child. In South Dakota, pregnant alcoholics and drug users can be committed to treatment centers for up to the duration of the pregnancy. In 1989, Jennifer Johnson became the first woman convicted for giving birth to a drug-exposed fetus when a Florida court determined that Johnson knowingly delivered a controlled substance to a minor. The Florida Supreme Court reversed the conviction on the grounds that the drug delivery status did not apply to the facts of Johnson's case. South Carolina is the only state that uses an interpretation of its already existing statutes to hold that a viable fetus is a person, and is one of the leading states for prosecuting women for prenatal drug abuse. In Alabama, authorities use the threat of jail to push women into drug court or pretrial diversion. Calhoun County, near the Georgia border, diverts pregnant women into a treatment program in Birmingham. But a mother who gives birth to a drug-exposed baby is offered a standard plea deal of 5 years in the notorious Julia Tutwiler Prison for Women. "It's not a victimless crime," said Jennifer Weems, a former prosecutor who oversaw the county's chemical endangerment cases for years. "When children are born positive and addicted to drugs, then we treat it like any other crime against a child." In as little as 15 minutes, water-soluble alcohol can pass through the placenta membrane of a pregnant mother, causing the fetus' blood alcohol content to equal that of the mother. But unlike the mother, the fetus is not able to quickly metabolize the alcohol and eliminate it from its system. Instead, the toxin lingers within the placenta, disrupting formation of the fetus by impairing fetal oxygen supply and disrupting protein synthesis and hormone production.
And kaze failed to answer to the whole post: You, iow, are spreading your myth of forced pregnancy is not a danger to women, and that 'might' can be ignored. That's why arguments such as that continually fail in politics as well as on the board.
You must have a different definition of a "living thing". What is your definition? The simplest is it uses energy and responds to its environment.
Again I will analogize it to an acorn and acorn uses energy and responds to its environment..isit a tree?
It's her body. She can do the drugs and then gouge her own eyes out if she wants to. That's the nutty, senseless world in which we live.
You seem to be stuck on the obvious. Of course a seed is a potential plant, an egg is a potential chicken. All are living things. Ethically speaking if a living thing can be tortured or abused it shouldn't be and there should be sufficient reason to kill it.
I believe I asked you what the definition of a "living thing" is and you did not answer. Maybe you can define what a non-living thing is and see if it fits a zygote? I don't think a zygote is capable of being tortured, kind of like a carrot.
To me a living thing is when it is viable and can live on it’s own ...a fetus in the first three months is not capable of being tortured either because it has no neural connections yet
Question: Is it okay if a woman pumps up her little fetus on steroids while it's still in the womb? It's her body isn't it?
Is it any different if she has the juice injected through her torso directly into the fetus, rather than into her body and thus passively to the fetus.
