Dual loyalty? No. Single loyaltly.

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  1. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    It wouldn't have mattered because we threw all of the British riff-raff out of America in the 18th Century.

    <<< I jest of course >>>
     
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    Up to a few yrs ago, I'd not have made such a statement . Deep behind the cobwebs I thought I'd read it somewhere and found it in my files - not said by a Jew hating racist/anti-Semite but by Jewish leaders .


    "In his memoirs of his years in the White House, former President Jimmy Carter wrote that there could have been peace between the Arabs and the Israelis had it not been for the bigoted, Nazi-like racial views of Israeli's Prime Minister Menachem Begin. --- Begin, Carter recalled, believed the Jews were a Master Race, a holy people superior to Egyptians and Arabs. Begin also believed that God wanted the Jews to own the land, so there was absolutely no basis for peace. The Jews lusted after the land and intended to have it. Period. Jews a Totally Different Species?

    Rabbi Mendel Schneerson, the late Jewish Lubavitcher and friend of the senior George Bush, also believed the Jews are a superior Master Race.

    Many Jews today agree with the late Rabbi. Some even believe that Schneerson will himself someday be resurrected and return as the Jewish World Messiah. Schneerson once explained his theory of Jewish racial superiority this way.

    He said, "We have a case of the Jew...a totally different species."

    "The body of a Jewish person," Schneerson bragged, "is of a totally different quality from the body of members of all other nations of the world. Bodies of the Gentiles are in vain. An even greater difference is in regard to the soul...A non-Jewish soul comes from three satanic spheres, while the Jewish soul stems from holiness."


    Holocaust activist Elie Wiesel, whose lies about his holocaust experiences seem to be legion, also claims that Jews are a superior race. "Everything about us is different," Wiesel boasts. "Jews are ontologically exceptional." condescending slang "N" word "" to describe Christians and Gentiles÷vulgar, Yiddish slur words like "shiksa," "schwartze," and "shegetsz."

    Since the Jews are claimed to be the Master Race, whose souls are said by the Talmud to be on a far higher plane than the animalistic, "satanic souls" of Gentiles, it is common for Jewish authorities to brand all Gentiles by the derogatory Yiddish term "goy," a term akin to a curse word.

    Meanwhile, Arabs are deemed so inferior they are even lower than the goy. Jewish Blood vs. Inferior Blood

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    Yes, you do insist on using the same old crappy tactics over and over again.

    You have of course heard of the concept of "cause and effect" haven't you? Your "cause" (jew hatred, rabid anti-zionism, denialism) always creates the "effect" from me of identifying the lame tactics attempted, the myriad lies, misrepresentations and logical fallacies employed to express a virulent hatred.

    I may be imagining things but I am sure your posts used to actually contain something more than simple witless kneejerk rejection when you got called on some ridiculous hate statement.
     
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    I see you found this in "your files". Why is it that you don't ever attribute the source of these "files". Unless of course, RENSE just happens to be "your files".

    Nothing like hiding attribution while regurgitating jew hating crap from a jew hating site.
    I guess we shouldn't be surprised that some people need to steal other peoples material since their own seems confined to scatology, smilies and poor english.
     
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    Of course not.

    So there is essentially no difference between you and them. Charming.
     
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    It still holds true.

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  7. Karma Mechanic

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    Show me what you are saying about Begin....please do...citation? No? Because this is a well debunked lie.

    Except this is another lie. You don't even have the late Rabbi's name rigth.

    Where? Show me where he said this.

    Where did he say it. Only place this exists is on hate sites. Birds of a feather?



    Context? No? figures.

    Now you sound like a freaking idiot. The Talmud doesn't say that and the Goy means nation. It is not a curse word.

    Completely untrue.

    http://www.zionism-israel.com/fake_zionist_quotes.htm

    I just have to wonder why you have to lie so much.;

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    If it were not for President Carter's Camp David Accords and the peace agreement between Egypt and Israel...Egypt's economy would have spiraled into oblivion.

    By Egypt making peace it allowed a large influx of U.S. Aid that was necessary for Egyptian Economic survival as the disaster that was Nasser's insane spending of Egyptian treasure equipping the Egyptian Military with substandard Russian Arms which were easily destroyed by the American supplied IDF.

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    One of the big slams against JFK running for President was that he would be more loyal to the Pope than the Constitution. In that election this issue was a major one. Romney faced some of the same prejudice for being a Mormon.
     
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    This is the fear of the WASP's in America that have always held tyrannical control in the United States since it's founding. Yes, it was true with JFK that the greatest fears of the WASP's was based upon election of a non-protestant to the office of president. We found the same WASP fear during 2008 with President Obama because he was a black-liberal (i.e. non-WASP) and much of the attacks on him, such as the birther conspiracy, was all based upon his "non-WASP" status as a "black" even though he was a "protestant" religiously. In fact the only logical explanation for the "hatred" against Obama can only be explained because of his non-WASP status as a black man because politics alone don't warrant "hatred" by the person. What we see are that WASP's "hate" Obama because he's not a "WASP" and we remember similar problems of "hatred" when JFK was president because he was a Catholic. Only after JFK was assassinated did the "hatred" end but it was very evident before that fateful day in Dallas. The "evangelical white Christians" hated JFK while he was in office just like many "hate" Obama today.
     
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    In attempting to research claims of any expression of Jews being a "master race" by any Jewish leader all I've found were allegations of unsupported statements made on blogs so I would caution anyone about believing these unsupported and undocumented statements. It's sort of like the allegation made that the following was a factual statement, "Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a ******ned piece of paper!" While Bush certainly displayed a disregard for the US Constitution the actual statement cannot be documented.

    So I highly question the unsupported allegations related to Jewish leaders making any statements claiming the Jews were a superior race even if they actually believed it themselves.

    Additionally it cannot be used to stereotype Jews as even if a few actually believed it, which is highly doubtful, it could never be considered to be a common belief. Personally I believe it is simply anti-Semitic propaganda based upon lies being propagated by extremist WASP hate groups like the KKK and/or Stormfront and would classify it as such.
     
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    I agree it cannot be used to stereotype Jews - (in general) but from my own observation , and what I've read posted here by SOME - leads me to go along with much of what I've posted.

    One answer would be if someone can obtain a copy of Former President Carters memoires and check whether the quotatiions o on various blogs are correct or false.
    I repeat I've been to Israel and saw what some of them are really like>-

    I've no reason to doubt the following quotations : - some were (naturally ) condemned by others who are more conscious of Israel's /Jewish - image in the West - particularly in America .

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    On April 15, 1973 Former Sen. J. William Fulbright (D-Ark.) said on CBS Face the Nation: “Israel controls the United States Senate. Around 80 percent are completely in support of Israel; anything Israel wants it gets. Jewish influence in the House of Representatives is even greater.”


    “We can say we can’t possibly get the Congress to support (an Israeli) program like this. And they say don’t worry about the Congress. We will take care of the Congress. This is somebody from another country, but they can do it. They own, you know, the banks in this country, the newspapers. Just look at where the Jewish money is.”—Gen. George S. Brown, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Los Angeles Times, 1974.

    “We will carry out a greater holocaust against the Palestinians.” —Matan Vilnai, Israeli deputy defense minister, March 1, 2008
    Talmudic Council declares: “In wartime, even enemy children may be exterminated.” The website “Ynetnews” stated that “according to Jewish law, during a time of war, there is no such term as ‘innocent civilians’ of the enemy.”
    Nearly two years ago, another group of prominent rabbis urged the Israeli army “not to flinch from killing Palestinian civilians including children.” In a letter to Shaul Mofaz, then defense minister, the rabbis, who represent mainstream Orthodox Judaism, wrote that “killing civilians was a normal thing in wartime” and that the Israeli army “should not hesitate to kill non-Jewish civilians to save Jewish lives.”

    “A thousand non-Jewish lives are not worth a Jew’s fingernail.” —Dov Lior, rabbi of Kiryat Arba. Lior gave a eulogy at the funeral of that “great saint,” Baruch Goldstein, the Jewish mass murderer who gunned down 29 Muslim worshippers at Hebron on Feb. 25, 1994.

    “Our race (speaking of the Jews) is the master race, Lior said. “We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our Earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves.”


    “. . A non-Jewish soul comes from three satanic spheres, while the Jewish soul stems from holiness.”

    “Jewish blood is not the same as the blood of a goy (gentile)”—Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg, defending several of his students of murdering a teenage Arab girl; “Death to the Arabs.”

    “Some years ago, when the prominent journalist Russell Warren Howe asked Begin whether he considered himself ‘the father’ of terrorism in the Middle East, Begin answered expansively, ‘No, in the entire world’ ”—TheWashington Star, cited in For Fear of the Jews by E. Stanley Rittenhouse.


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    Its all out there at the click of a mouse.

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    As you say " it cannot be used to stereotype Jews" anymore or less than the sterotyping of Arabs - from the utterances of some Imams, which is regularly posted here by the -- - You know whooo. (wink)




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    Well, if the Whites will become a minority in the USA, and Africans and Latinos will be the majority there, then USA will not be a Super Power any more.

    It will become something similar to Brasilia or Zimbabwe (the former "Bread Basket" of Africa, and today a "Basket Case"), it will become a North Volta with atomic bombs... with all social consequences for ALL Americans.

    After that the Israel Lobby will be forced to select a new country for the role of a "Super Power"... because Israel cannot survive without the support of a Super Power.

    Are there still candidates for this role?

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    I am not going to point out all your lies but this one has to be beaten down like all anti Jewish propaganda.

    Quotes running around the anti-Jewish world is "Israel's defence minister Matan Vilnai threatened 'Shoah' on Gaza in response to Qassam rocket fire...Shoah is the Jewish name for the Holocaust", with the implication that Israel was threatening to revisit the Nazi Holocaust upon Palestinians.

    The word "Hashoah" refers to the Nazi Holocaust, and Vilnai used the word "shoah" which means "disaster" in Hebrew. Vilnai explained that he was not making an allusion to the Nazi Holocaust against the Jews. Only bigots would promote this lie. Shoah is a Hebrew word that is used for all kinds of things and does not translate to Holocaust. So are you lying for your position or ignorant?
     
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    OMG -
    Of course your source - the Zionism & Israel Information Center would call it lies and fakes,

    How could anyone doubt + question the words of your Zionist thought controllers ., as we all know they never lie and always speak the truth - the whole truth and nothing but the truth .
    Everyone else are liars , except God's chosen ones. Right ?



    Gertcha.:roll:

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    There are often misrepresentations related to translations in foreign languages. For example Ahmadinejad was often cited as calling for the end of the State of Israel when in fact he was calling for the end of Zionism and the two are not the same.

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    Purely racist based speculation and nothing more.
     
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    the word shoah means catastrophe not Holocaust. That is a fact of modern Hebrew. What he said is only controversial to bigots and liars.
     
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    Actually he did say it in a way but the quote often used is one where he said "Imagine a world without Zionism".
     
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    I can't confirm every case but a friend of mine is Iranian and he confirmed in numerous cases, including the one often cited by Ahmadinejad about calling for "end" of Israel, that Ahmadinejad was referring to Zionism and not to the nation of Israel. The statement most often cited was derived from an AP translation which was incorrect.
     
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    shoah is in the freaking Bible....you are just a pathetic small man who can't admit he is wrong.
    Sad really....once again challenging me on Hebrew and you say I have thought controllers.
    Go tell your friends on Stormfront...in the mean time intelligent people will know that you are simply not truthful.
     
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    You are correct there was one in his first year that was mistranslated and it was an Israeli News source that pointed that out. But there are several times he did reference the end of Israel as a political entity (thus the nation of Israel) as was a quote of the Ayatollah Khomeini. Either way it was mostly saber rattling.
     
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