East vs West. Who is stronger - the SCO or NATO?

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is important to couch this convo in the context that actual direct war (where both sides are attacking each others homeland) between NATO/US and Russia/China on simply a conventional basis will not happen. If there was a serious military threat to either side - nukes would be used.

    It is then nonsensical to count up conventional forces and make any conclusions just on that basis. Leaving nukes out of the equation - what is also misguided is talking about today's military forces in WW2 terms where we count up ships and planes.

    While this may have slightly more relevance today than it will tomorrow - the conventional calculation is changing dramatically. Missile technology has advanced at rapid pace - at a pace faster than the ability to defend. When we count ships and planes - it is no longer realistic to compare numbers on one side to the other when one or more missiles can take out these planes and ships in a way that is far more lethal than in the past.

    AI and drones are further changing the power equation.

    What we see is Russia China (and India for that matter) working together on military projects. In particular - military projects involving missile technology. This both logical and dangerous because for the cost of a 15 Billion dollar aircraft carrier you can build a whole lot of supersonic smart and stealthy cruise missiles.

    Ships are quickly becoming obsolete in the face of modern missile technology - even if a battle group could knock out a few of these missiles - and this is not easy by any stretch - there is no way to reliably respond to salvo's of these missiles. The defenses can be overwhelmed.

    The latest innovation is hyper-sonic missiles and there is simply no good defense against these. India tested a hypersonic missile (a collaboration with Russia) late last year.
     
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    See the Decisions of the International Court of Justice for 2012. Study the material. It was in this year that the Poles were sent to the assss with their false "evidence." :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    In addition, your links to the British lying media - this is complete nonsense. You still tell me how the Russians killed in Salisbury.:roflol::roflol::roflol:

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    But do you have such sources? Maybe you will provide them?

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    Another pointless your comment?
     
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    Looked at them nothing, no corretion of putin or russia on this matter.

    Again if you have a source of such a quite important event give it.
     
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    All we get from Africa are hurricanes and viruses. What a sh-thole.
     

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