Economics of Abortion, mandatory birth, a perspective

This will be kind of a strange argument, but I think it does have at least some small level of validity.

Can anyone explain to me how forcing pregnant poor women to choose the route of life is different from minimum wage laws, or forcing someone to buy healthcare insurance when they can't afford it?

It seems the underlying argument behind all three of these things is basically the same.
Basically, when you force people to give birth when they can't afford it, it will force up wages, that's the economic argument that's been used.

When some women abort, they "cheat". They're able to work for less and pay higher rents for apartments than other women. That puts other women under more pressure if they don't abort too. Anytime one group makes a personal sacrifice to gain economic advantage, that puts financial pressure on all the others if they want to be able to compete in the economic system. It could be a floorboard manufacturer cutting corners by using slightly cheaper formaldehyde resin which can be hazardous to health, or it could be an agricultural corporation hiring illegal migrant workers to cut labor costs by 10%. In either case, all the other businesses are under pressure to adopt the same practices if they want to be able to compete.

Most of these poor women really don't want to abort, but they feel compelled to, like they don't have any other choice. Why shouldn't we be looking at this like minimum wage laws or health insurance? Should a woman be "free" to choose to work for less than minimum wage? Will forcing people to buy health insurance still work if they're free to choose to opt out?

I'm not saying this argument here is in itself a stand alone reason great enough to restrict abortion, but it is one more argument.

 

No its not

 

Why not?

 

To paraphrase your argument:

Abortion. If yellow can be blue and frogs have wings, why can't we force women to carry to term and have ham sandwiches be free.

That's how your argument reads.

 

We don't force women to give birth

 

You said it so much better than me. LOL

 

But we do force women only to be able to work for more than the minimum wage amount. The government was going to try to force people to buy health insurance.
Obviously then, it is assumed, forcing people to do something will offer them a degree of protection and help mitigate economic exploitation.
No reason this wouldn't apply to abortion also.

 

No we don't. You are not forced to work at all. You are also not forced to buy health insurance

 

And a woman isn't forced to get pregnant.

But the government came very close to doing it. (Or perhaps you're not familiar with the particulars of the Affordable Care Act ?)

 

I know. Choice all around. I agree. Lets promote choice

 

So now pro-choicers are Libertarians?

 

Nope.

 

No, it doesn't. NO one is forced to use their body to sustain the life of another in minimum wage laws or health insurance mandates..


...and no, no one forces women to work for more than minimum wage....where the h did you get that idea....

 

No, Pro-Choicers are Pro-Choicers.......WHY is that so hard to understand?..... Pro-Choice is NOT a political designation.

 

So it's legal for women to work for less than minimum wage?

 

You are not forced to work at all

 

That's like saying a woman is not forced to get pregnant at all.

 

She isn't. Duh. If she is she has the choice to get an abortion. If a woman is working she has the choice to quit. See?

 

You should really think more about what you say before you say it.

 

Yeah you too. I can not make it much simpler for you

 

The fact is, no matter what job she has, she is not free to work for less than minimum wage.

It's true that unlike a pregnancy, she is potentially free to take a little break from her employment. But even that's not a given. You can't just stop working anytime you want without that threatening your job prospects, both current and future.
Unless you're saying having any job at all or not is a choice. In which case I'm saying that getting pregnant is a choice.

 

No, it's not ...that's absurd...

 

As absurd as saying having to have a job is a choice, so it doesn't matter if she's only allowed to work for at least minimum wage.

 

OMG..,.


A. YES, anyone is free to work for less than minimum wage....or for nothing at all if they choose....how much simpler can that be stated !!!!


B. Only a person totally ignorant of science, biology, and human reproduction would claim women can CHOOSE to get pregnant...

 

Ever want to come up with a POINT that ISN'T fantasy ???