Ecuador, Paraguay and Peru to recognize Palestine

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  1. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    The matter is simple. Why honor national destruction and the hatred and murder of Semites, as demanded by America/Israel, when one can recognize and accept the nations of Palestine and Israel instead? The world chooses the later. It is always more logical to accept nations than to justify the murder of their hated inhabitants. America and Israel failed because racism always fails. There is no gain from hating Semites.

    Ecuador, Paraguay and Peru will shortly recognize the nation of Palestine along its 1967 borders.
    http://latina-press.com/news/63185-ecuador-paraguay-und-peru-werden-palaestina-anerkennen/
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    If it continues like this soon there will be only America, Britain and Israel doing the circle-jerk...
     
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    Excellent news. The world's democratic nations must now unite against neoZionist fascism at the UN.
     
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    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    Indeed. In response to this, Americans beloved racists violated international laws, again, to harrassed hated Semites in a hospital in Bethlehem shortly before Christmas:

    Palestine: Israeli troops invade hospital near Bethlehem

    20-12-2010


    IMEMC News:

    The Bethlehem Arab Rehabilitation Hospital reported Sunday that a group of Israeli soldiers surrounded the hospital with armored vehicles and jeeps, then invaded the Emergency Room, pointing guns at patients.

    The soldiers then roughly demanded of the ER staff that they produce admissions records for the past 48 hours, according to the Director of the Hospital, Edmund Shehadeh. They threatened to confiscate a computer containing medical records, but ended up leaving the hospital empty handed.

    Invasions of hospitals are routine in the Israeli-occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip, despite the fact that hospitals are accorded special protection under the Fourth Geneva Convention, and are not supposed to be invaded by military force.

    Israeli military forces routinely violate their obligations as an occupying power under the Fourth Geneva Convention, particularly in the areas concerning protection of civilian populations, and attacks on schools and hospitals.

    Some patients in Palestinian hospitals are civilian victims of Israeli military attacks, and the invasions of hospitals are especially traumatic to these patients, according to psychologists who work with Palestinians living under Israeli military occupation.

    http://imemc.org/article/60216
     
  5. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    It's christmas time in the West, a time for traditional neoZionist violence and slaughter of Palestinians. Over christmas 2008/9 they massacred 400 Palestinian children, along with a thousand other people. This brutality was made possible by means of American tax-payers contributions, voluntary or otherwise. Watch the news along with your turkey and christian carols to see how your money is being spent this christmas.
     
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    And yet the '67 borders don't exist anymore so the point is moot. Blame the Arabs, they're the ones who attacked Israel and got pwned. :mrgreen:
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Actually it was Israel who first attacked Egypt in 1967.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Who started the The Yom Kippur War in 1973?

    Hint:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War



    And in 1967:

    "The drift to war

    In his speech to Arab trade unionists on May 26, Nasser announced: "If Israel embarks on an aggression against Syria or Egypt, the battle against Israel will be a general one and not confined to one spot on the Syrian or Egyptian borders. The battle will be a general one and our basic objective will be to destroy Israel."[102][103]

    Speaking to the UN General Assembly in September 1960, Nasser had stated that "The only solution to Palestine is that matters should return to the condition prevailing before the error was committed - i.e., the annulment of Israel's existence." In 1964 he said, "We swear to God that we shall not rest until we restore the Arab nation to Palestine and Palestine to the Arab nation. There is no room for imperialism and there is no room for Britain in our country, just as there is no room for Israel within the Arab nation." In 1965 he asserted, "We shall not enter Palestine with its soil covered in sand, we shall enter it with its soil saturated in blood."[104]

    President Abdul Rahman Arif of Iraq said that "the existence of Israel is an error which must be recitified. This is an opportunity to wipe out the ignonimy which has been with us since 1948.[105] The Iraqi Prime Minister predicted that "there will be practically no Jewish survivors".

    Nasser publicly denied that Egypt would strike first and spoke of a negotiated peace if Israel allowed all Palestinian refugees the right of return, and of a possible compromise over the Strait of Tiran.[77]

    Israeli Foreign Minister Abba Eban wrote in his autobiography that he found "Nasser's assurance that he did not plan an armed attack" convincing, adding that "Nasser did not want war; he wanted victory without war".[106][107] Writing from Egypt on June 4, 1967, New York Times journalist James Reston observed: "Cairo does not want war and it is certainly not ready for war. But it has already accepted the possibility, even the likelihood, of war, as if it had lost control of the situation."[108]

    Writing in 2002, American National Public Radio journalist Mike Shuster expressed a view that was prevalent in Israel before the war that the country "was surrounded by Arab states dedicated to its eradication. Egypt was ruled by Gamal Abdel Nasser, a firebrand nationalist whose army was the strongest in the Arab Middle East. Syria was governed by the radical Baathist Party, constantly issuing threats to push Israel into the sea."[78] With what Israel saw as provocative acts by Nasser, including the blockade of the Straits and the mobilization of forces in the Sinai, creating military and economic pressure, and the United States temporizing because of its entanglement in the Vietnam War, Israel's political and military elite came to feel that preemption was not merely militarily preferable, but transformative."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_day_war
     
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    Please provide evidence of this from a non biased source?

    The magazine "The Economist" will suffice.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Amnesty International is not a credible source.

    If you're referring to the Gaza War, then Israel launched the attack to stop rocket attacks across the border.

    This kind of action is even allowable by the UN guidelines.

    You really think Israel wants to kill Palestinians just for the heck of it?

    They don't even want Gaza.
     
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    So what if Latin American countries recognize a state that doesn't exist? There were about 90 some odd countries that recognized "Palestine" back in 1988.. the recent additions bring it up to like 107..

    It still means absolutely nothing.

    The UN gave the Jews permission in 1948 to set up an apartheid state. That is historical fact. We cannot 2 generations later just reneg on that deal and expect the Israelis to just roll over and die.

    Sorry world. Your grandparents made the deal, You are going to live by it whether you like it or not. Plain and simple. Go cry to Grandma and Grandpa who made the deal if you think it's so bad.. but the deal is already struck, paid for in Jewish blood. Israel stays.
     
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    Nasser was clearly committed to war already.

    Even the UN allows preemptive strikes to deal with immediate threats.

    Why do you hate the UN?
     
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    Exactly..Next it'll be Timbuctoo, Bum(*)(*)(*)(*) Egypt and Atlantis recognize palestine...who cares?
     
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    I'm curious.

    What would the anti U.S., anti Israel zealots here be talking about if the UN suddenly started condemning Canada and New Zealand?
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Amnesty isn't credible? Why not, because they are fighting for the release of Gilad Shalit, an IDF hostage?
    Which source would you find credible, the Israeli Defense Ministry perhaps?
     
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    The Economist for one.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    You've been offered sources yet you choose to ignore them. Even B'tselem, an Israeli source if you care to find it (just google 'Operation Cast Lead'), gives the true picture. But no, you'll still keep those 'Israel can do no wrong', denialist headphones blaring, won't you?
     
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    Nobody but you and the anti-Semites on this forum are the denialists. You take your one-sided stance on an issue and wonder why some oppose your view, then you label them in order to denigrate them in your mind. All sides have an input on the issue but your continued Israel bashing leads to no furthering of a discussion. Is Israel perfect? No. But that in no way means it is all Israel's fault and that the Arab nations, Palestinians, and others are blameless.
     
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    SM;
    Only in your head. In reality it's steaming ripe horse-apples.
     
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    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    No evidence exists indicating that snakestretcher hates a single Semite. So, why must you insult anyone who doesn't hate Semites? Do you have an issue with Semites?

    snakestretcher accepts the nations of Palestine and Israel. If that's "one-sided", in your view, then you are suffering from a serious case of Semite-hatred.

    Israel is chooses to expand its illegal settlements because it desires the hatred of Semites, not because such is logical. So, if you don't want to condemn Israel, then have it accept the nation of Palestine. Yet, instead, you blast people who don't hate Semites with extreme hostility. Why?


    Question. Why do you need to insult people who don't hate Semites instead of recognizing and accepting Semite nations? Don't you think that it would be better to respect Semites and to treat them as equals, than to endlessly blast them with hatred while justifying the destruction of their nations and the murder of their people?
     
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    Who said hate? Are you feeling guilty?

    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Everything I've read from you has painted Isreal as the aggressor so if the shoe fits...

    More bull(*)(*)(*)(*) from you as usual. As is the rest of your insipid post. I really don't understand how this forum allows anti-Semitism yet logs infractions for perceived personal insults.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Israel is the illegal occupier. Israel is aggressively pursuing an expansionist 'settlement' policy in territory where it has no legitimate right to so do.
    Israel is the one building walled ghettos, controlling Palestinian access to water and power.
    Israel is the one bulldozing Palestinian homes.
    Israel is the one destroying the sole means of income for Palestinians, olive groves.
    Israel is the controlling ingress and egress to Gaza.
    Israel is the one using white phosphorus weapons against civilans.

    And you have the front to call anyone's criticism of the above, 'anti-Semitism'? ANY nation carrying out actions such as the above against its OWN population deserves to be vilified, marginalised and ostracised. But no, you immediately spring to their defence.

    You need to open your eyes mate, Israel is laughing at you whilst fleecing you. The smile on the face of the crocodile-and Americans are stupid enough to believe it won't bite them.

    So no, I'm not anti-Semitic but I am 100% against the fascist bastards inhabiting the Knesset. That they happen to be Jewish is entirely coincidental.
     
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    That's a lie. Try again. And the rest of your post is just more of your one-sided bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
  25. Dayton3

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    Some members of the Knesset are Muslim.

    As are some members of the IDF.

    By the way,

    can anyone making anti Israeli posts answer one question:

    When artillery, rockets, or mortar rounds from Palestinian areas land inside Israel, how exactly is Israel SUPPOSED to respond?

    Don't tell me what they should not do.

    Lay out in detail what their response should be.
     

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