Educated vs "Non-Educated"

...depends on the color of your skin. If there be injustice...there are surely worse things than being audited. Maybe rich people just don't know that.

 

Hmmm. Let’s check out some prominent (and past) progressives. Ron Dellums, one of the six founding members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Mayor-Dellums-wife-owe-239K-in-back-taxes-3211763.php

Don Beyer is worth $31M, Nancy Pelosi at least $16M, and the list goes on and on.

Now progressives of bygone days may fit your theoretical mold better. The likes of Margaret Sanger, Saul Alinsky, and Dr. King were not progressives like today’s progressives. Today’s progressives are just what I’ve described. Opportunists out to fleece the ignorant, and they are succeeding. Certainly succeeding as well as any “conservative” and possibly more so. This silly notion only conservatives and republicans are greedy money grubbers is patently absurd.

And the progressive way of fleecing you is by advocating for punishing success to reward failure. The definition of tearing down.

I’m not aware of many government employees doing “the right thing”. What is the right thing anyway? You used to mock the notion there was a “right thing”.

 

Never claimed to be. I'm nowhere near that middle place. Odd that you thought it was one of the options.

 

Pardon?

 

The 'color of your skin' may be applicable in some places.

I'm not sure where your application of injustice, skin color or 'worse things than being audited' comes in. I'm not even sure where the shot at 'rich people' comes into it.

But thanks for responding.

 

Don't rich people have everything they want? What could they possibly have to complain about? Are they not wanting all those lazy poor people to get jobs and so they have their own money? And yet the rich complain about getting audited as if it's some kind of crime. No matter how good you have it you still find something to whine and complain about. You think because they are rich nobody should criticize their behavior? That nobody should question their honesty or their motives?
You said..."You don't normally get pulled over driving a car, unless you have done something to require it so that is not equivalent."
That's simply not true if you are a person of color.

 

How does any of your first couple of sentences have to do with a businesses being audited for Labor? My personal financial position, or anyone's personal financial situation, wasn't part of the discussion.

Obviously, you are having a boring day and looking for something to piss about. I don't have the time or inclination to provide that.

 

Okay...but only if your definition is the correct one. It seems more a matter of opinion than a true definition.

Yes I agree with you. Most employees, government or otherwise, just keep their mouths shut and mind their own business.
But if you were a businessman, would you not want your employees to speak up and let you know of possible problems? Why would you belittle them or punish them for trying to help?

 

You're may be right. But your observation probably applies equally to most people here.

 

Yes, it is. Dark skinned South Indians aren't being harrassed by police. African migrants are less likely to be harrassed than African Americans. Asians aren't being harrassed. Etc etc.

Think, before you make such silly claims.

 

Not so silly for the "non-whites" that have to put up with it simply because of the color of their skin.

 

In another thread you noted that you aren't in America.

What country does your post above address?

 

Sure. Punishing success to reward failure is not destructive. It’s just my opinion. That’s how you dismiss ideas you can’t confront with critical thought.

When I employ people long term I specifically instruct them to give me their opinions on the business operations and point out problems. If they were to fabricate or misrepresent information to destroy me or my business I would drop the hammer on them. Fair is fair.

 

The point is to tax the rich their fair share so we can invest in Americans and America again. After 30 years. Only garbage propaganda makes it possible. People did not just get stupid and lazy, many programs to help them get an education and jobs have been cut. No sacrifice is too great to save the greedy idiot GOP rich. Who are incredibly bloated.

 

Well, since 1980 the share of federal taxes the top 1% pays has doubled. During the same time period the share paid by the bottom 50% has been cut by more than half. The bottom 50% pay about 3% of total income taxes.

What would be a fair share in your opinion?

 

So I would like to ask all the "educated" posters here, how is that degree in gender studies, and your $100,000 college loan working out for you????

 

The aforementioned known to me and residing in America.

 

Did you deliberately ignore the BROWN skin of the people I mentioned - who are not being harrassed? Are you pretending that they're white, or something?

 

As best I can decipher, what some call 'their fair share' is the same percentage of their income that other people pay, completely disregarding the actual dollar to dollar value of what they pay. So if one group should be paying 'their fair share', then all groups should be paying 'their fair share'.

If one wants to extend that train of thought, then if everyone pays 'their fair share', there would no longer be hospital wings built, libraries supported, college scholarships, donations to other humanitarian causes, because the funds earmarked for such, would now go to paying 'their fair share'.

Of course, one has to ignore the fact that what deductions and methods of tax liability reduction are available to people are all legal, there would also be a reduction in investment and capital available to entrepreneurs since the funds will have been redirected to support those who do not contribute to the societal pool, but drain it instead. Let's also ignore the fact that those who pay the most in taxes, are the least likely to use the programs that the their tax money supports.

 

You are absolutely right. Even if you are totally cleared- you will spend a great deal of time and money defending yourself. Been there myself.

 

More like you are deliberately ignoring the non-whites who are being harassed by trying to point to some who are not being harassed.
Or at least you claim they are not. People that are different in any way shape or form are treated or mistreated by ignorance.
You can diminish that fact all you want, but it is still fact.

 

Those that testified at Trump's impeachment inquiry were not fabricating or misrepresenting information. Nor were they trying to destroy Trump or his business.
They spoke up out of concern for their country.
So if your employees spoke up about some questionable business activity that you were engaging in...you would drop the hammer on them?

 

federal income taxes are the only progressive tax we have, so that is just more ridiculous GOP propaganda. If you count all taxes, we have a flat tax system, a huge giveaway to the rich and a screw job for everyone else. Google the only tax graph you need to know and get informed for a change...

 

There are very few educated people here. A lot have been to institutions of “higher education” but I think it’s resulted in more entrenched dogmatism than actual education.

I’ve debunked your flat tax nonsense before. I’m bored by it.

 

Bologna. You're bored by being wrong as always...