Egypt strikes 'terrorist camps' in Libya in response to attack on Coptic Christians

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    Egyptian fighter jets have struck militant camps following the deadly attack on Egypt’s Coptic Christians, President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi has announced. The strikes were carried out in eastern Libya, state television said.

    Egypt’s president also vowed to continue striking bases used to train militants and who carry out terrorist attacks in his country, regardless of the camps' location.

    He also reiterated that the countries financing, training and arming terrorists should not get away unpunished.

    "We will not hesitate to protect our people from the evil," he said in a televised speech on Friday.

    Egypt carried out six air strikesiin Derna in eastern Libya, state televion reported adding that it is where the militants who carried out the deadly attack on the Coptic Christians were trained.

    The Egyptian president also directly addressed Donald Trump to take the lead in fighting terrorism.

    I direct my appeal to President Trump: I trust you, your word and your ability to make fighting global terror your primary task,” he said.
    Source:https://www.rt.com/news/389873-egypt-launched-strikes-on-militants-libya/

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    Poor Libya... First it fell in the hands of evil West. Then McCain's buddy was made head of ISIS in Libya to terrorize nearby countries according to American interests. Libyans have become much poorer, as their country got torn apart by NATO / US.
     
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    I think they chose the wrong way. Riyadh is eastward from Egypt.
     
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    The militia's of eastern Libya rose up first against Gadaffi.. They had hated him for 40 years... You know where Derna is, don't you? McCain had nothing to to with ISIS .. That's another fool conspiracy some conservatives have glomed onto.
     
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    I don't think Egypt is going to get much objection from the west, not after Manchester bomber was linked to Libya, could be el-Sisi is doing the British a favour.

    so Libya's next after Syria huh, not surprising when you look at it's neighbours... more headline's on the way I'm sure
     
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    I just hope they do a good job of it.. I mean hit them so hard they'll think twice about doing it again.
     
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    I actually believe Libya is the next stand for ISIS, predict escalating military activity in North Africa in conjunction with Egypt (I recall a thread a few months ago of Russian spec ops soldiers being spotted in Libya). As ISIS is driven out of Syria they are moving into Northern Africa and South East Asia (which is another reason why we do not need Trump to start a war with North Korea, ISIS will thrive in chaotic conditions and a war with North Korea will affect the entire region). Then there's geography, Tunisia next door, Sudan, Somalia, Nigeria it's perfect environment for ISIS... Also in Asia, Indonesia with large population of muslims, Phillipines, Malaysia... begging to be recruited... and Australia a nice big bullseye.
     
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    Why did you put terrorist camps in quotes?

    Taqqiya Takes a Holiday: Aussie Imam Openly Declares Koran Commands Beheadings and Massacres of Infidels

    Those that follow this murderous ideology glory in terrorism.

    Australian Imam: Make No Mistake, Islamic Scripture Commands Beheadings, Massacre People

    That this hateful ideology of slaughter and conquest presents itself as a religion, doesn't mean we have to coddle incubate and enable it within our borders:

    Tawhidi is considered a “fake” by other Muslims. In another YouTube video, he said:

    “I am considered a fake because I would die for Australia. I am considered a fake because I live by the Australian constitution. I am considered a fake because I glorify the Australian flag. I am considered a fake because I reject sharia law and live by the Australian law. They have called me a fake Muslim Imam or a Shaikh only because I expose their intentions to create a caliphate within Australia. I am an Australian Muslim and not a Muslim Australian. I want an Islam that is compatible with the west.

    “The bottom line is, I want Australia to stay Australian.”

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/aus...scripture-commands-beheadings-massacre-people

    How long until his slaughtered by his fellow Muslims?
     
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    There was a lot of speculation that al Baghdadi moved to Eastern Libya last December.
     
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    You can read the Koran for yourself, but I'd say the Austrian Muslim is mainstream and the crazies are not.
     
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    America says "Libya first". That's why I guess :)
     
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    OPINION
    Welcome to the Weird World of Australia's 'Fake Sheikh', Mohammad Tawhidi
    Chloe PattonABC Religion and Ethics11 Apr 2017
     
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    Sisi's got to go...
     
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    If that is not they way it is, that IS the way it should be.

    We want to encourage moderate Muslim liberals with respect to their religion. People who adopt a very non-Islamic stance, that mosque and state should be separate. In unreformed Islam, they know nothing of the separation of church and state. Religion and state are all united under the dominance of the religion. But in many Muslim states today, such as Egypt and Jordan, you have a separation in effect of church and state and a government that is secular and the mosque operates independently of it. That is the kind of thing we want to keep encouraging and growing. That will help to quell the fanaticism of the orthodox Muslim fundamentalists.
     
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    ISIS killed 28 Coptic Christians who were doing them no harm.. What's your problem?
     
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    You knew immediately who that clown was.. His kind will say anything for attention.. We have the same types in America and they aren't all Muslims.. but they ALWAYS have some over the top conspiracy going.
     
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    Do you like puzzles Marge?

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    They are attention getters aren't they?
     
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    Of course they insinuate themselves into the conspiracy du jour.
     
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    It'll be difficult, because the Muslims don't have their Martin Luther but just as the Christians had their reformation period, so too can Islam achieve it.
     
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    Yeah that's why Fethullah lives in Pennsylvania and Ul Qadiri in Canada; to start progressive march for achieving protestant islam branch. Sorry for turning Fethullah into a mere corpse. He's no use anymore. Canada is the hope:)
     
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    Judaism reformed, Christianity did as well. One thing that could make it more difficult is that Mohammed wrote their scriptures, whereas, Jesus didn't write a single word of scripture. It is only in Islam that the direct object of their worship also penned the scriptures that informs them, I think think this does make reformation more difficult, but obviously not impossible as we do see examples like Egypt and Jordan (and formerly Turkey, but Turkey seems to be backsliding).

    Appeasement by us is the worst thing we could do. This murderous ideology needs to be confronted with our full strength and conviction. Honor killing, mutilation, child marriage needs be met with the full force of the law. Wherever possible the violent elements of Jihad need to be pitted against our well equipped and empowered fighting forces and our civil society effectively shielded from them.

    And there opportunities for confronting Islamic theology head on. Muslims regard Jesus as a prophet who speaks for God, the things they think he really said, they have to believe, so they approach this like Liberal scholars do and claim he didn't say many of the things attributed to him. So Christian theologians who can back up the claims Jesus made about himself can have a real impact where they can make these arguments effectively, the teachings of Christ have continued to permeate Western Thought and continue to have a greatly civilizing impact on the basic savagery of humans. Muslims who adopt the stance of liberal christian theologians inoculate themselves from this effect by denying things Christ said, as concepts developed later and then put on the lips of Jesus, by men.

    Another example is things the Imams teach, and are widely believed in Islam as being taught in the Qur'an when actually they are not. For example, the Qur’an it doesn’t actually say that Abraham sacrificed Ishmael on the altar. Muslims believe it was Ishmael not Isaac that Abraham laid on the altar to sacrifice at God’s command. In fact, when you read the Qur’an, that is not what it says. It says it is Isaac. Yet, in Islam it is almost universally believed that it was Ishmael when the Qur’an clearly says that it was Isaac. It was things such as this that set the stage for the reformation of Christianity, as the scriptures came to be in more hands, they were read and then compared with what the Priests were saying about the scriptures. This inversion of Ishmael and Isaac strikes right at the heart of who they are as a Muslim, that it is Ishmael that is the promised child and therefore it is they who are really the chosen people.

    But, the separation of Church and State is an absolute line that the West must hold, for in orthodox Islam there is no separation of church and state. Everything is under the domination of the religion. The government, the banking system, social mores, education, everything has to be brought into submission to Allah. That is what Islam means – submission. A Muslim is one who is in submission in every area of his life. And then they extend it beyond the personal life to society as a whole. And any acts they see in us that looks like submission, for example, adopting Sharia law in our courts, that we mean as accommodation, they mistake as confirming their belief that we were formed and compelled by Allah to submit to them. We do them no favors by reinforcing these misconceptions and we move them away from what is truly needed, reformation. And of course, they are welcome to form their own societies, in their own lands, and so long as they do not violate our rights, in our lands, they should be free to do as they choose.
     
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    So they bombed the jungle gym... it will be back up tomorrow.
     
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    We aren't going to adopt sharia law in the US.. The most that could ever happen would be voluntary arbitrage between Muslims in civil matters.. Its a non -issue.
     
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    Great post until last sentence. IMO they must not be allowed to exceed 2% of the population in a free society.
     
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    I don't want any Islamists in our country that subscribe to this hateful ideology of violent Jihad, not even one. But those that want to come in, that are a benefit to our nation who agree to adhere to our constitutional traditions, I'm fine with.

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