Eid al Adha - Oct. 15 - Police Should Be Alert.>>>MOD EDIT<<<

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  1. Margot2

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    Did you know that they raise these animals for meat, milk, leather and wool????
     
  2. protectionist

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    Gee. isn't this a toughee, huh ? :roflol: Uh, Indofred. Did you happen to notice a slight difference between what I said, and what you allege that I said ? Look hard now, Indofred. Look hard, and find it, Indofred. And then come back and report to me. OK, Indofred ? Those are your instructions, Indofred. Pheeeeeww! :roll:

    Did you know that they buy them one day, and kill them the next ?
     
  3. Indofred

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    This halal killing bit crops up from time to time but I wonder how many posters have actually seen it done.
    I have and it isn't anything like what some posters like to make it out as.

    The animal should not be allowed to see the knife and the knife is so sharp, it must feel like a paper cut.
    The animals I saw killed, after a small prayer to God, knew something had happened and looked around but showed no sign of pain.
    After a few seconds, it laid down, fainted and died quickly.

    It is my opinion, the animal had no idea it was going to die and didn't even perceive any danger so was under no stress at all.
     
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    If we were bound to accept what criminals say, we'd have some awfully empty prisons wouldn't we ? :giggle:
    So in your view, the daily mail is invalid, but the words of somebody who goes around killing animals is OK, huh ? Pheeeeeww. :disbelief:
     
  5. Margot2

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    Yes... not every family are Bedouin herders or farmers.

    I don't raise chicken or turkeys or pigs, or beef......

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    Who are you calling criminals??? That's very weird.
     
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    Allege? I quoted your post.
     
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    Now that we've all seen this whitewash, we can now click this link to see how it really goes down.

    http://www.occupyforanimals.org/aid-al-kabir-or-eid-al-adha.html
     
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    I'm calling the people who kill animals on Eid al Adha criminals, that's who! And what's weird about it ? Here's the law (http://www.aspca.org/fight-cruelty/advocacy-center/state-animal-cruelty-laws), and here's the one from Florida >>> "The misdemeanor violation of animal cruelty (section 828.12) occurs when a person unnecessarily overloads, overdrives, torments, deprives of necessary sustenance or shelter, or unnecessarily mutilates, or kills any animal, or carries in or upon any vehicle, any animal in a cruel or inhumane manner. A person who intentionally commits an act to any animal which results in the cruel death, or excessive or repeated infliction of unnecessary pain or suffering is guilty of a felony of the third degree."
     
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    Slitting the throat is actually far more humane and fast.

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    Slaughtering an animal that you have bought to eat is not animal cruelty. You are completely off base.
     
  12. protectionist

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    No Indofred. What you said was quite different from what I said. Try again. Look harder, Indofred. I've got faith in you. I think you can do it. I'm pulling for ya. :cheerleader:

    Apparently I do, as do the people at Occupy For Animals.
     
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    But that's not why they buy them. If they just wanted something to "eat", theye could just go to the local supermarket. Quicker, cheaper, cleaner, neater, easier. But no, friends. Food isn't the idea. The idea is the Muslim tradition of "sacrifice" (which is a pile of crap). If I said I was sacrificing by throwing out an old, crummy sofa, I'd be laughed at (legitimately). But calling Eid al Adha a "sacrifice" is just as BS.
     
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    Where do you think that meat in the supermarket comes from? Why do you suppose Jews and Muslims slaughter according to a certain protocol?

    This is NOT "sacrificing".. its to celebrate and remember Abraham and the end of blood sacrifice. Its a feast day.. and its about charity to the poor.
     
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    We both know exactly what it is. It is an idiotic, idea that grew out of the days when Muslims had animals as PETS (goats, sheep, camels)nad th PETS had names and were loved by these Muslims. And just as Abraham was willing to sacrifice his son, the Muslims would sacrifice their favorite animal pet, to show God their alleigance to him. Dumb idea to begin with, and 1000 times dumber now, what they're killing animal they have no attachment to, and are making no sacrifice at all.

    If they wanted to show God they were sacrificing something, they could stop driving their car for a month, and sit in that hot bus stop, waiting for the bus every day. So now you know, Muslims. You know what to do. So leave those animals alone, and STOP BULLYING.
     
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    The Arabs never kept them as pets.. They were livestock.. for meat, milk, yogurt and leather..
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    When Muslims had animals as pets, killing them would have been a sacrifice. What they do now, is nothing more than mass idiocy. And the fact is, killing an animal is illegal in the USA, and if you do it, you pay the price (jail, prison, fines).
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    Back to your goofy claim that killing an animal is illegal in the US. Killing animals is a tradition in the US!!!!!
    Apparently you have no clue at all that our current 5.56 NATO is based on a Varmint cartridge. Right now, there is a flood of feral pigs in the Southern States. This is corrected by culling hunts where the hunters are usually NOT required to use the carcass. This happens all over the country with all manner of animals like rabbits, coyotes, rodents, etc. In places where deer become too abundant, there are often hunts where the meat is given to prisons. Most, if not all of we who are familiar with rural life in America consider this to be perfectly normal. Let the Muslims do whatever they feel they need to do, short of sacrifice.
    I don't condone sacrifice, but in view of the way we deal with wild life, I don't know why it's illegal.
     
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    Is halal slaughter cruel and, if so, why is a slaughterhouse employing western methods any better?
     
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    You said....

    I said

    Perhaps you can point out where I misquoted you.
     
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    Thank you for that.

    When you look at that numbers- compared for instance to how many turkeys die each year for Thanksgiving.......well it seems fairly reasonable.
     
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    Well thats your opinion.

    But frankly I think your opinion is just part of your anti-Islam campaign.

    I have pointed out that other religions, and even the Old Testament have animal sacrifices- but you will not consider anything other than your conclusion.

    When I see your concern for such slaughter by anyone else- like the slaughter of alligators that happens annually in Florida- then I will believe this is about something other than your obsession with Muslims.
     
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    Frankly that is just crazy.

    Other than the quirky odd millionaire- no one keeps camels as pets, and pretty much only Americans keep goats or sheep as pets.

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    We kill about 9 billion animals a year in the United States, not including hunting.

    Doesnt' appear to be illegal to me.
     
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    No, no problem there because it's American Christians who are slitting its throat as the most humane way to kill an animal but when Muslims do exactly the same, its ritual and cruel slaughter.

    "You're going to die", says the boy to the doomed animal.

    [video=youtube;GOupBIQ7_V8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOupBIQ7_V8[/video]
     
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    No, you just failed to read all applicable parts of the law. Very bad act on your part. Shows a total disregard for logic and common sense or external realities.
     

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