Eid al Adha - Oct. 15 - Police Should Be Alert.>>>MOD EDIT<<<

Horse hockey. They always raised goats, sheep, cattle and even camels for food.[?B

Here is where you wander off into the tall weeds. We have here a major fallacy of language. You use the word "sacrifice" in only one sense of its meaning.

The word means "to make sacred" or to dedicate to God. Thus the slaughter of Eid al-Adha, is to eat a sacred meal, made sacred by mentioning the name of God over it and sharing it with others. Do learn the meanings of the words you use.

 

He thinks shepherds raised sheep, goats and camels as PETS. LOLOLOLOL

 

Pets? LOLOLOL

 

Good God.. at least you have the intellect and education to know what it means.

 

Maybe it would make you happy to know that I hate the guts out of hunting every bit as much as Eid al Adha. I even quit fishing 5 years age because I didn't like hurting and killing the fish like I was doing, and before you ask (what I've already been asked 20 times) yes, I'm a vegetarian. And just as familiar with rural America, and animal overpopulation as you are. If you want to reduce animal population, you can do the same as what we do with feral cats. We take them to the Humane Society and have them sterilized. We don't go around killing them. I've always thought that there is a chemical that can sterilize animals just by shooting it into them (as with a tranquilizer dart), and do no harm to them. And that this is covered up by political pressure from the hunting industry. I still tend to think that.

Secondly, if anyone really feels a need to hunt animals, do it with a camera. Then you'll have the results of that hunt with you for years to come.

 

So what? You don't control the world or the law or religion.

 

Of course I can point it out, but I'm surprised you couldn't see it. Oh well. Maybe next time.

1. I said >> "...Muslims who see it their duty to kill an animal..."

2. You said >> "According to the OP, it's a Muslim's duty to kill an animal."

No that's not what the OP said, or "according to the OP". The OP said that killing an animal is something that Muslims SEE as their duty.
That's different from saying a Muslim has a duty to kill an animal. They could not at all have a duty to kill anything (and if course they don't) but simultaneousy/mistakenly SEE it as a duty of theirs. GET IT ?

 

Such ignorance. You still don't know what Eid al Adha is about. Their "duty" is to remember Abraham and the ban on blood sacrifice and share with the poor on a feast day.

 

FALSE! They are ludicrously emulatating the sacrifice that Abraham was making by killing his son, and that of the ram afterwards. Both are equally absurd. These Muslims are "sacrificing" nothing. The only ones giving something up are the poor animals these loons are killing, who are giving up their lives. The most absurd part of this is that they think this mass murder is somehow going to please (or appease) God. Actually, the good God will be very angry with them for all this. The bad one (the devil) will like them more though. These guys are going in the wrong direction. They're like the guy who wants to go east, and he's driving west at 100 miles per hour.

 

SO everything I said in my post. That's what!

No he doesn't. He just fits in with what you're pretending, that's all.

 

Your career was ruined by Affirmatitive action over 40 years ago. Eid al Adha NOT a sacrifice.. it s feast day where they contribute to charity.

There is no excuse for such stupidity.

 

It DOES "appear to be illegal" to anyone who can read >>

Title XLVI - CRIMES

Chapter 828 - ANIMALS: CRUELTY; SALES; ANIMAL ENTERPRISE PROTECTION


828.12&#8195;Cruelty to animals.&#8212;
(1)&#8195;A person who unnecessarily overloads, overdrives, torments, deprives of necessary sustenance or shelter, or unnecessarily mutilates, or kills any animal, or causes the same to be done, or carries in or upon any vehicle, or otherwise, any animal in a cruel or inhumane manner, commits animal cruelty, a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or by a fine of not more than $5,000, or both.
(2)&#8195;A person who intentionally commits an act to any animal, or a person who owns or has the custody or control of any animal and fails to act, which results in the cruel death, or excessive or repeated infliction of unnecessary pain or suffering, or causes the same to be done, commits aggravated animal cruelty, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or by a fine of not more than $10,000, or both.

I'll tell you what. You come to Florida. You buy a goat or a sheep. And on Oct 15 (Eid al Aha) you kill it, and make a video of this. Then you give me that video which I'll turn over to the cops, and lets see what happens after that. Don't forget to tell them this was for a sacrifice.

 

Of course it's not a sacrifice. I've been saying that for 2 years now, in 4 different threads. But these wackos think of it as a sacrifice, and that is the foundation of this whole abomination. But you already knew that, right ?

 

1. I have concern for alligators. I think they should be sterilized to become extinct, like all the other large and dangerous (to people and pets) dinosaurs before them. If you knew anything about alligators in Florida, then you would know that eliminating alligators is a process of self-defense, but then you were a Trayvon Martin supporter, weren't you ?

2. This has nothing to do with religion.

 

It doesn't change a thing to show another animal killing, which opponents of animal killing despise just as much. Nice try though.

 

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NONSENSE! The 1st amendment is a weak part of the Constitution which is riddled with exceptions (ex With freedom of speech we have > perjury, slander, libel, inciting a riot, obscenity, etc) We have NO EXCEPTION with the Supremacy Clause. As it states > "...this Constitution, and the Laws of the United States &#8230; shall be the supreme Law of the Land."

It means that the federal government, in exercising any of the powers enumerated in the Constitution, must prevail over any conflicting or inconsistent group or ideology (ex. ISLAM)

The Supremacy clause actually means that no state or the federal government can allow Islam (a supremacist ideology), because the Supremacy Clause so dictates.

 

So you also believe that supremacist groups and ideologies are not outlawed by the Supremacy Clause. That would be funny if it wasn't kind if scary.

 

In general, we (the people of the world) all KNOW it. But it wasn't just sheperds. It was anyone, and some people still do today. Welcome to the real world.

 

Of course it doesn't. That is just a whacky interpretation with no basis in fact.

All religions are protected by the First Amendment, and all parts of the Constitution are equally valid- there is no 'weaker' or 'more powerful' part.

I provided the definition from Cornell Law's website- you- you have your own interpretation.

Let me know when you have anything but your own interpretation of the Constitution.

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They aren't.

If you want to prove otherwise- show a court case which supports your position.

Otherwise it is just your whacky theory.

 

My point- which you keep avoiding- is that thousands of Alligators are killed by the fine citizens of Florida every year.

According to your claims- they are all guilty of animal abuse.

Along with every single cockroach killed in Florida.

Clearly that isn't the case.

Why you think I am a Trayvon Martin supporter- or why you think that is relevant is completely irrelevant to this thread.

 

Have you EVER seen shepherds anywhere in the world tending goats or camels?

 

There are people who have sheep as pets
There are people who have goats as pets
And there are I am sure a few really eccentrics with camels as 'pets'

But the vast majority of all such animals are raised to be eaten(sheep, goats), for their wool(sheep, goats), their milk(sheep, goats, camels) or as beast of burden(figure it out).

I would say the percentage of animals that stayed pets beyond their juvenile years prior to 1900 was so statistically insignificant as to statistically not exist.

 

This is an announcement for this pet holocaust in the Bay Area

Eid al Adha on Wednesday, October 16th!




We have not received any reports of the crescent moon of Dhul Hijjah being sighted anywhere in the world. We will be celebrating Eid al Adha on Wednesday, October 16th, insha Allah.

We wish everyone in all places a blessed Eid Mubarak.

SBIA adheres to the traditional principle that Islamic lunar months begin and end based on the confirmed, verifiable naked-eye sighting of the new crescent moon globally.


Santa Clara County Fairgrounds South 7th St. & Tully Rd. in San Jose | 8:30 AM

English Talk by Imam Zaid Shakir

Day-long program features activities for the whole family:

&#8226; Variety of Delicious Food
&#8226; Clothing and Book Vendors
&#8226; Eid Bazaar
&#8226; Amusement Park Rides
&#8226; Live Shows for All Ages
&#8226; Petting Zoo and Pony Rides
&#8226; Hourly Raffle Prizes!

....pretty scarey stuff.

 

You speak for only a dim minority. I grew up on a farm. I had my favorites among the cows, but, when they had outlived their usefulness in other capacities, I had no problem roasting a chunk of them with a nice salt and spice rub.