I feel some sympathy for the people who truly believe in the dangers of RF(and their beliefs can be strongly-held to the point where they're verging on the religious), because they've got a VERY hard sell to make in order to gain converts to the cause. I mean, I'm sure they can manage to drum up some interest with their scaremongering, but then they get to the part where we're going to have to chop down the cell phones towers, get rid of the wireless routers, and throw our cell phones in a lake, and that's where they lose them. Humans are addicted to the cell phones to the point where the phones could literally be setting their hair on fire, and they'd look down at their beloved iPhones and think "Screw it. It's worth it. I'll just Instagram out some baldie selfies."
Back in 2000 I became involved in a few local TEA-Parties as a media outlet for them, we had a rather well attended rally at Central Broward Park, I was recording the meeting and running the audio board, as we where wrapping up one of the people attending struck up a conversation about the equipment I had, to impress me he got on the subject of mind control and how those in the TEA-Party need to know about it, he then pointed to a tower N.E. of the park and quietly advised me that is part of the system the government has installed to control our minds, he went on to explain he was able to map out the system based on the direction the big round things with lightning bolts on them and let me in on a secret he discovered, they form a mind control ring all around Broward, ooh spooky. The antenna site he pointed at is part of Broward County's 800MHz trunking system, I think there are 7 of them right now, it's all Motorola SmartNet based and the sites are linked to each by a 6GHz microwave system backed up by leased circuits from BellSouth, which I at the time being a part of the maintenance department known as Special Services Installation & Maintenance, (SSI&M), internally known as the SS., as in our van numbering, on the left back window of the van I marked up with large vinyl letters SS 640. He actually mentioned that he saw a BellSouth truck with SS-607 on the rear window at one of the sites, indicating the phone company was in on the conspiracy. I tried to appear to be impressed by his knowledge and inquired how he discovered this secret system, he thinking I must be a good guy being linked with the TEA-Party went into great detail explaining how he traveled around Broward with a map and compass and found the other sites based on the compass angle of the round things. I was quite impressed, I asked him if ever saw what was inside of the huts next to the tower, he lit up and smiled, he found another person who actually didn't consider him to be a whack job, sadly he stated I have never been able to see what's in them. I asked him if he would like to take a tour of the site he pointed at, he looked confused, I explained I am part of a group of technicians who maintain that system and I have the keys to the site and hut in my van, he looked like he was going to puke, in his mind I'll bet the was thinking, I just spilled my guts about what I know of their mind control system to a Federal Agent who has infiltrated the TEA-Party and I'm going to land in Gitmo, if I survive the interrogations, he literally ran out to the parking lot got in his car and left the rally, very quickly. A while later while covering another TEA-Party rally I ran into him again and asked him to pose for my camera, which he gladly did, he didn't recognize me, but I recognized him, you don't find too many Zorro's at a rally, we had a little political chat and I asked him once again if he would like to take a tour of that site, he panicked, ran North across Broward Blvd almost getting run over in the process, probably went back to his apartment and spent the next few days peeking out he curtains looking for black SUV's with helicopters overhead. I guess I am sort of sadistic, I find doing things like that to be quite humorous. This is the guy. And the lightning bolt on the microwave dish that he thought was an identifier, is actually known as the Strike, a trademark of Andrew corporation who manufactured the dish.
The device being used is high tech. It can pick out a single individual with pinpoint precision. I'm pretty certain just one device is being used and it is being re-positioned twice a day, including during the middle of the night. At least four sets of neighbours are involved in housing the device. The neighbours are also involved in visual surveillance and other forms of harassment. For example I clearly saw one neighbour last night filming me through a window with a mobile phone and this is the second time I have seen them doing this. The device can also monitor your brain waves and can detect whether you are about to or have already fallen asleep. And this is NOT as far fetched as it sounds. It is a published fact that there is equipment out there than can read what is on your computer screen from some distance away from the emf given off by the cabling and this is why military installations routinely use jammers to block this readable emf. In later posts I revised my opinion on whether microwaves were being used as the latter can easily be blocked by just a single layer of aluminium foil. A lesser frequency is being used that is commonly known as "shortwave" which a far more penetrative and difficult to block. It is also possible that the waveband in question exists within a "no man's land" on the radio spectrum that no-one else uses and is not covered by most RF detectors. If you look at the RF spectrum there are significant gaps that are not used.
Nope the wavelength of shortwave signals (1.6MHz to 30 MHz) requires rather long antennas not practical for indoor installations and it can be blocked in the same manner as microwaves. Plus SW is much easier to detect as it can cause interference to common devices such as TV sets and table top radios, and the signals can travel for thousands of miles. Incorrect RF detectors are continuous band software defined receivers that do not have gaps in their designed coverage range.
Not practical for indoor installations? This is what the Wiki page on the Microwave oven says: "At the 1933 Chicago World's Fair, Westinghouse demonstrated the cooking of foods between two metal plates attached to a 10 kW, 60 MHz shortwave transmitter." And how do you know how long the antennas on the device are anyway? I'm sure the harassers are clever enough to choose a vacant waveband that doesn't cause interference with TV sets and radios! At the risk of stating the absolutely obvious, the gaps in question are at the beginning and end of the coverage range..........
Your misunderstanding how radio frequency heating works, when an object containing moisture such as a piece of meat or a human is placed in a field of very high power the RF, the RF will vibrate the water molecules in whatever is in the field, this causes warming, the higher the frequency the greater the warming, this is why a microwave oven which operates at 2.4 GHz can quickly hear a glass of water or a piece of meat with only a 600 watt magnetron, the reason being the wavelength of a 2.4 GHz microwave signal is .1249 meters whereas a 60 MHz HF signal is 4996.5 meters and a wavelength that long only partially illuminates a object like a piece of meat or a person. Very simple, all antenna designs rely on the wavelength of the signal they are designed to work with, for example a quarter wave dipole operating at 150 MHz will be cut to about 19.5 inches, while a quarter wave dipole operating at 450 MHz will be cut to about 5.5 inches, the higher the frequency the shorter the wavelength . The formula for the calculation is basic math, wavelength (W) in meters = the speed of light (C) divided by the frequency (f). W=C/f. More examples. This antenna stretched between the two poles, while hard to see is a High Frequency horizontal folded dipole, based on the length of the elements, I would guess it operates at around 24 KHz or so, this is part of a secure link from a US based office to locations in the Caribbean and parts of South America. As you can see this would be a little tough to install in a building next door to someone and at the power used in HF would be quickly discovered if used for what you think HF can be used for. This antenna, it is a directional VHF antenna, which is part of a link from my home to the Hendry County Emergency Operations Center, if you compare the lengths of the vertical elements to the Z bracing of the tower which is about 6" from a lateral to the next lateral up, you can see the center element the radiator is about 19" up and the counterpoise is 19" down. Ignore the silver attachment, that is a Gamma match which is used to match the native impedance of the element to the 50 OHM output impedance of the radio system, it is connected to. That matches my calculations and the instructions that where provided with the antenna. Now this is a UHF quarter wave dipole, note the radiator is about 5.5 inches. That matches my calculations, for UHF. Now this is a Microwave (3.7 GHz) quarter wave dipole in a waveguide, note the radiator is about .5 inches. As you can clearly see as the frequency rises the antennas get shorter. It doesn't work that way, regardless of the frequency the powers commonly used with HF will cause interference to many devices, at one time I had a HF radio (27.490) installed in my car it only put out 100 watts, but because of the wavelength of that HF signal I could pull under the overhand of a closed gas station and when I transmitted the florescent lights mounted to the underside of the overhand would light up from the signal I was transmitting. That doesn't make a difference, a nearfield receiver which what a field strength meter is based on can cover bandwidth continuously from way below to way above any band based on the frequency range it is set for. The field strength meter I use covers 50 MHz to 3.5 GHz continuous with no gaps what so ever, I have a Anritsu spectrum analyzer that works from 500 KHZ to 3.5 GHZ, without any gaps, there is no practical way of hiding a signal from those devices, yes I might not be able to extract information from the signal but I will detect it every time. None the less it appears, by your statements, you really don't have a strong background in RF and have bought into a lot of myths about what it is capable of doing. I would suggest instead of grasping at any conspiracy you can find go the library and get some books on the basics of RF and go from there, I have the feeling once you understand the basics of RF you will realize you have been duped and are worrying about something that doesn't exist, nor would be applicable at your level in society. That is if you don't have something in your background that you are not revealing such as working for the CIA or the NSA and left the company on less than good terms. But then again if that happened, you would be able to post here would you?
I'll answer your last question first. Unless you haven't heard it isn't just CIA and NSA whistle blowers they are going for, these days it's anyone within the alternative media who question the official story-line in any way. It's sad that democracy should have come to this. In answer to the rest of what you had said, can I ask my own question? What frequency is it that can largely pass through four sheets of aluminium foil but is stopped by thick aluminium plate? Does this match microwave, UHF or VHF?
Can you supply further detail on this? I heard that microwaves would be more or less completely blocked by the four layers of aluminium foil. The UHF (equivalent to the old TV rooftop antenna signal) would certainly be blocked by the solid aluminium plate (because the vertical metal guard at the back of the old TV antennas block stray signal or noise coming from behind the antenna). With VHF there would be significant signal loss passing through the four layers of aluminium foil (I've observed this myself by using an ordinary radio tuned to a shortwave station where there is noticeable background noise (or where the sigal to noise ratio is poor) and moving the antenna behind the four layers of foil produces complete loss of reception), and possibly complete signal loss passing through the solid aluminium plate. So why do you say none of these?
Microwaves are not blocked by metal foil they are just reflected somewhere else, there are two ways of blocking which is absorbing the signal, tuned cavities and conductive absorption material common carbon infused foams or rubber sheets. https://www.cumingmicrowave.com/products/rubber-sheet-absorbers.html Again that is not blocking the signal it is just reflectingit somewhere else, and that reflected signal ban bounce back from another location and that reflection can cause reception problems known as multi-path interference. Neither metal foil nor a metal plate will pass RF, it may become a secondary radiator, but the signal will not pass through it. This is why I can take a room cover the inside walls ceiling and floor with copper screening, ground that screening and there will be zero RF entering the room, whatever signal is not reflected by the screening will be absorbed by it because it is grounded. This is know as a Faraday Cage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage I say none because if the signal is not absorbed it is reflected possibly allowing it to come back into the protected area from a different angle.
Regarding UHF you had the following to say: When you say "that" is not blocking the UHF signal, are you referring to the foil, the plate or both? The four layers of aluminium foil only blocks some of the VHF signal; you can prove this by tuning your radio to a station where the signal to noise ratio is very good and where there is no static, and behind the foil the antenna still produces a perfect reception. This proves it is only blocking some of the signal and that the signal to noise ratio was still good enough.
Both and that applies to all metals, sheets can be used to reflect, conduct or radiate. This is a 2.4 GHz antenna I built out of copper sheeting, note the radiator is nothing more than a copper disk and the cone below it is a reflector/counterpoise. What is actually happening is your foil is not entirely reflecting all of the signal and in reality if the entire radio in not encased in the foil and that foil is not grounded, as such regardless of the number of sheets the foil will leak some of the signal it is being exposed to.
Referring to VHF you said the following: So therefore the signal that is getting through the layers of aluminium foil is in fact VHF. It's possible that the device is clever enough to use two different wavelengths where appropriate, i.e. microwave where shielding is absent and VHF in order penetrate minimal shielding.
That's RF 101, a metal foil can not directly change the frequency of any signal. Not really, a properly shielded device, room or building cannot be penetrated by any form of RF, trying other things like playing with foil is just an experiment with no basis as to why the experiment is being done or should reveal. You need the baseline to understand the technology you are working with. I would strongly suggest you find and buy a couple of books written for people trying to get into the RF engineering field, RF is really not complex, think of it as light, it pretty much works the same, more so when the frequencies get higher. Think about the foil question, try this, pull a couple of feet off a roll of aluminum foil, go out in the noon sun on a clear day, aim your face into the sun and them move the foil over your face, you will quickly notice your face and you will notice face becomes cooler, that's the same with RF, that very thin foil reflected the light and heat of the sun off of your face, but it's still light out and your face is still being illuminated from the reflection of light all around it. RF works the same way. I have no idea of what is going on in your life, but you clearly have a fear of something, I'm not there, so I cannot perceive what you are going through, but it is clear to me you have been grossly mislead about what RF can and cannot do. Now if you want to shield your living space that might be possible, more so if where you live is on the ground, grounding is very important to shielding and the further you are from making a connection to Earth, the more expensive shielding becomes. Proper shielding must be earth grounded, building grounds are unacceptable and excepting one point they can only be bonded to a shielding grounding electrode to meet code.
No, I hadn't meant to say that the foil changed the frequency of the VHF signal. You are cleverly trying to avoid answering the point I had made. Is it not the VHF that is getting through the foil? Okay, but try this experiment. At night when it's pitch dark indoors, take an LED torch and press it firmly against the palm of your hand such that the light appears to go out. If you look at the back of your hand in the darkness, and assuming the torch is powerful enough, you will see a faint red glow as the visible light passed right through your hand! In fact every child has played following the game in the dark where you place the end of an electronic torch into your mouth and blow at the same time and your bulging cheeks are then lit up from the inside by the torchlight! The visible light is passing right through the tissue of your cheeks making them glow a bright orange colour.
The answer he gave was quite clear. No, the VHF isn't penetrating the foil. What you're detecting is "scattered" signals reflected off other surfaces that are then hitting your detector from other directions. You're accusing him of being evasive, when it's clear that you're misunderstanding(probably deliberately) his straightforward and logical explanations. It seems to me that you don't want to understand, and that you're just trying to protect your preconceived conclusions from falsification. This is typical tactic of people who harbor paranoid persecution complexes. You don't want to understand. You want to believe what you believe, and you want others to share in your belief. Severe confirmation bias. See: Arthur Firstenberg. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Firstenberg
No, just a minute. Earlier on in this thread we were clearly told by Well Bonded that the aluminium foil would not work at all unless it was properly earthed. Now we are being told that absolutely nothing can penetrate aluminium foil anyway either earthed or unearthed, neither microwave, UHF or VHF. Well Bonded also twists my words around and uses typical Straw Man tactics. Take the following example:
I suggest you quickly you retract that statement, because I never did such a thing and I never would. All I did was correct a misconception you had about field strength meters and the fact they do not have gaps in their frequency range. You wrongly assumed that most RF detectors cannot be full spectrum and nothing can be further from the truth, further there are no such thing as a "no mans land" within the radio spectrum, you simply lack either the data to understand that or lack the understanding how to figure it out. I have a small handheld 3 axis field strength that can detect any RF emitter from 50 MHz to 3.5 GHz and a spectrum analyzer that can detect and display the emission from any emitter from 100Hz to 8 GHZ. If you want to get in a pissing match about RF with me you have picked the wrong opponent to pull that crap on, I will mop the floor with you with provable facts, should you to wish to go there. I would strongly recommend you don't give it a try.
Big deal. I have three such meters with similar ranges. The problem is what if the signal you are trying to detect is in the higher frequency microwave range, such is the range often used by governments, i.e. above 8 GHz? Or what if the signal is in the shortwave range, i.e. below 50 MHz. Answer: You won't be able to detect it with the meters you have.
Really, um 100 KHz is well below 50 MHZ, and if I need to go higher I can sign out a microwave spectrum analyzer from our stock room. What field strength meters are you using to detect these amazing mind control frequencies which are disturbing you? Or are you just tin foil hat whining about it, with no factual field strength measurements to backup your rather technically incorrect and specious claims?
You haven't really been paying careful attention to what I have been saying. Try operating an RF meter on a signal that only appears just at the very moment you are about the fall asleep? You can't take any readings at all in such a situation and the meter just falls out of your hand.
One factor that you fail to properly take into account is that the people who have built such a device are highly professional and probably far more professional than you are. Just because you have never seen such a device and don't know how it works doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
You clearly have no idea what I have done for a living. I have seen and built a lot more electronic devices that most and given your lack of any electronic or communications experience have little or nothing to stand on when making such false allegations. And that's it I will never again try to help you understand anything else going forward, have a nice day, this discussion is over.
